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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Earth's Tides
« on: October 21, 2017, 12:23:06 AM »
Best explanation of tides I have found in a while.

All wrong.  The Tidal Forces act upon the Continental Land Masses..  not the oceans.  This also explains why lakes (even huge lakes) don't experience the same effect.  Additionally, this has much to do with earthquakes, magma creation and the predictable eruption of geysers.

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Yes, apologies. FoR means frame of reference. For an observer on Earth, light would take a straight line path from the emitter to the moon. For an observer in a different perspective the light may indeed appear to curve. In this case, the acceleration would be coordinate acceleration though, and not proper acceleration and does not require anything other than a non-inertial FoR.

It is apparent that a beam of light will bend exactly as a body would if thrown horizontally with a velocity equal to that of light...  but only in a gravitational
field.  In the 240k mile (approx) vacuum of space between Earth and the Moon, there would be no horizontal travel arc at all.  Therefore, in the 1.3 sec it takes to reach the Moon, the Moon will have traveled 780km through space (using 600k km/s speed of Milky Way).  Thoughts?

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Yes, apologies. FoR means frame of reference. For an observer on Earth, light would take a straight line path from the emitter to the moon. For an observer in a different perspective the light may indeed appear to curve. In this case, the acceleration would be coordinate acceleration though, and not proper acceleration and does not require anything other than a non-inertial FoR.

I appreciate the clarification.  I will explore this further as you have piqued my interest! :-B

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When the interference is detected in a Sagnac experiment you have a rotating frame which is... Non-inertial!  Looks like SR is not even relevant. Fortunately GR can explain the result.

When the interference is NOT detected in the Sagnac experiment (when stationary) you have the rotating EARTH!!! which is even non-inertial system then ALSO in this case the SR is not even relevant. Un-Fortunately for you the GR theory is only crap.. xD

Tell me, how the MM experiment should be interpreted. When you consider the observations of astronauts and satellites of the Earth's motion I think you must reconsider your silly conclusions.

In the M-Gale experiment has been simulated the earth's angular-speed and in THAT case the interferences were DETECTED!!! (as born coordinates confirms) then if the EARTH is rotating the M-m experiments MUST have wrong results... try to research in the right way please....

Rotational Velocity IS a relevant factor but, with Diffraction and barring other encumbrances, returning photons at the detectors should still be possible.  The MAJOR factors which I believe to be insurmountable to the LLR experiments would be the Orbital Velocity of Earth around the Sun (30km/s), the Velocity of the Solar System through the Milky Way (220km/s) and the Velocity of the Milky Way through the Universe (600km/s).  If ANY of these velocities are even CLOSE to correct...  the laser pulse will never even hit the Moon at all unless the Moon is positioned either in front or behind the Earth relative to the direction of travel when the pulse is fired.  Even then, we would get dramatically different distancing results based on which of those 2 positions the Moon were occupying at the time.

Unfortunately you are not analyzing the FoR properly. The light emitted from the Earth will carry all the vectors that contribute to the Earth's motion.

You say FoR..  Is that Frame of Reference?  Please clarify.  Are you implying that a light pulse fired from Earth to the Moon will have a travel path similar to that of a ball thrown sideways from a moving vehicle (albeit without the vertical arc)?  That would imply that light has mass, would it not?

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When the interference is detected in a Sagnac experiment you have a rotating frame which is... Non-inertial!  Looks like SR is not even relevant. Fortunately GR can explain the result.

When the interference is NOT detected in the Sagnac experiment (when stationary) you have the rotating EARTH!!! which is even non-inertial system then ALSO in this case the SR is not even relevant. Un-Fortunately for you the GR theory is only crap.. xD

Tell me, how the MM experiment should be interpreted. When you consider the observations of astronauts and satellites of the Earth's motion I think you must reconsider your silly conclusions.

In the M-Gale experiment has been simulated the earth's angular-speed and in THAT case the interferences were DETECTED!!! (as born coordinates confirms) then if the EARTH is rotating the M-m experiments MUST have wrong results... try to research in the right way please....

Rotational Velocity IS a relevant factor but, with Diffraction and barring other encumbrances, returning photons at the detectors should still be possible.  The MAJOR factors which I believe to be insurmountable to the LLR experiments would be the Orbital Velocity of Earth around the Sun (30km/s), the Velocity of the Solar System through the Milky Way (220km/s) and the Velocity of the Milky Way through the Universe (600km/s).  If ANY of these velocities are even CLOSE to correct...  the laser pulse will never even hit the Moon at all unless the Moon is positioned either in front or behind the Earth relative to the direction of travel when the pulse is fired.  Even then, we would get dramatically different distancing results based on which of those 2 positions the Moon were occupying at the time.

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