The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Community => Topic started by: squevil on December 15, 2013, 01:25:54 AM
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The poll is now closed.
The following names have all received nominations for a place on the Zetetic Council.
To vote you need to select 3 people from the list and private message them to me.
Because I will hold all nominations I have excluded my self from the election. You will send me 3 names and 5 people with the highest number of votes will be voted in as council members.
The 5 selected members will run a term of 6 months. In that 6 months a solid definition of the council will be written and their agenda. Future voting and elections will also be discussed.
This will be a temporary placement for the next 6 months for all council members. But I am confident that in 6 months time the newly elected members will likely consist of the same members anyway. All further details will be discussed in public by the council and other members of the society.
Please only select 1 to 3 people from the following list and submit your votes to me via a private message. Please do not discuss who you voted for until after the members are elected. Voting closes on Wednesday the 18th of December 2013 at 23:00 GMT any votes after that time will not be counted.
Tom Bishop
Saddam Hussain
Sean
Thork
Saddam
Rooster
Hoppy
Markjo
Roundy
Secret User
Ghost Spaghetti*
beardo
Tsuami
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I nominate beardo and Chris. :)
I am presuming Chris is Ghost Spaghetti.
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In the event of a tie we will vote for them individually and this may prolong the election but will be done a swiftly as possible.
All numbers will be posted in this thread some time after midnight on Wednesday (I am at work that night so I cant guarantee what time I will be able to contribute).
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Voted. :D
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Voted.
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Re-voted, once reminded pizaaplanet is an admin.
I'll get used to it ... eventually.
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Votes for pp and junker need to be changed. You know who you are!
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I have removed the administrators from the nominee list.
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Not only do I think this council thing is a stupid idea, I protest the fact there is no section for write-in candidates.
I also disagree with how this election is being run, as well as the lack of oversight. I also suspect Thork of stuffing the ballots.
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Voting is closed and I have the results:
Tom Bishop 11
Saddam Hussain 3
Pizaaplanet 1
Junker 3
Sean 1
Thork 6
Rooster
Hoppy 1
Markjo 1
Roundy 4
Secret User 1
Ghost Spaghetti 1
beardo 1
Tsuami 5
The top 5 are:
Tom Bishop
Saddam Hussain
Thork
Roundy
Tsuami
Thanks for submitting votes, if you see that the maths might be off its because not everyone voted for 3 people and some votes were changed after people saw that admins did not want to take part.
We can now get to grips of what this council will be doing and sort the details.
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We should have every council member officially post that they accept the position.
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Oh yeah, I killed it in the election.
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like a fucking boss rooster ;)
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We should have every council member officially post that they accept the position.
yes agreed
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What is really important is that I beat pizaaplanet.
I hope everyone accepts.
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We need to add something about a NASA conspiracy in this thread so Tom sees it.
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We need to add something about a NASA conspiracy in this thread so Tom sees it.
Effective. PMing them may also work.
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I accept the position.
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See the NASA conspiracy words came in his search and a wild tom appeared!
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I accept the appointment, I suppose.
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Secret User 1
Gee, I wonder who that was. ::)
I accept the position.
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If all the winners do not accept their nomination in time, I will accept my position as runner up and default winner first. Also who voted for me? :D I didn't even vote.
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Secret User 1
Gee, I wonder who that was. ::)
I'll vote for Secret User, then.
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How could you not vote for your girlfriend? What a douche.
Secret User 1
Gee, I wonder who that was. ::)
I'll vote for Secret User, then.
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How could you not vote for your girlfriend? What a douche.Secret User 1
Gee, I wonder who that was. ::)
I'll vote for Secret User, then.
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But I did. Squevil is worse than the state of Florida at the whole voting thing...
Tom Bishop
Secret User
Thork
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Or Blanko was just being a dick.
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Or Blanko was just being a dick.
I think it was just missed because it was posted, and not PM'd. Wouldn't have changed anything.
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I wasnt missed. I only counted pms. Those who cant read the rules dont deserve a vote ;)
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Those who cant read the rules dont deserve a vote ;)
What rules? We still have no idea what people voted for. Also, voting via PM means we have no actual record of the votes, so you could have made it up for all we know.
I don't want to get involved in this, and if you tell me to shoo off, I will, but here's an idea:
Stop being retarded. Use a POLL for voting so we can all see the counts without having to rely on you. Set the election up AFTER we agreed what positions we're even voting for, and what they will do. As it stands right now, the council means absolutely nothing because it has absolutely no power, nor duties.
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Stop being retarded. Use a POLL for voting so we can all see the counts without having to rely on you.
He volunteered. Do you not trust him? The votes seem representative of what most rational people would've expected.
Set the election up AFTER we agreed what positions we're even voting for, and what they will do.
Who is the "we" that will agree on these things?
As it stands right now, the council means absolutely nothing because it has absolutely no power, nor duties.
Really, the council has no power anyway. This is a temporary group of people to figure out all these things. If they don't, it fails. Maybe I am wrong, but it all works for me.
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I asked Parsifal to verify the votes by reading my pms but he said he didnt want to invade my privacy. You do have a clear record if you wish to view it and you have my permission to do so. The were rules for voting posted in this thread in the OP. I did this as a 3rd party with no interest in the results. I did not even vote myself. I thought this way would be better than a poll.
We should simply scrap the whole thing if there is too much disagreement.
I will leave the rest to those who want to push this further. People voted and it was fair and honest. It is quite clear what the next step is as it has been said quite a few times already.
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We should simply scrap the whole thing if there is too much disagreement.
Stop being so submissive >o<
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Im just easy going, like you stated I just volunteered to handle to votes and get things moving.
It seems there is a split here; those who are fully on the ball like yourself and those who are quite confused and the same questions are being asked. 'We' could go on indefinitely back and forth.
Id like to see the council that the people voted for, now show some ideas and an agenda and try to show those who seem confused what the point is.
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There was a thread on what the Zetetic Council is:
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=850.0
Ok, so to set up a Zetetic Council, we don't really need a lot from the administrators. Literally just a forum we can post into. We'd also need an agreement from the administrators that any vote from the council that is passed is binding and that they will endevour to do whatever they can to make it possible whether they agree with it or not. The Zetetic Council should have absolute power. Not Parsifal and PizzaPlanet. That's kind of weird and frankly could be destabalising.
Rules - cos we all like rules.
Ideas will be put into the new forum and discussed by those in the council.
Votes will be publically cast for transparency.
A resolution needs 50% or more the votes in order to be passed.
Nothing can be voted on twice in the same month. Saves repeated lobbying.
Any member of the council that isn't voting regulalry can be dropped from the council as this will prevent making 50%. This is no big deal, they can always be added again if they start posting again.
It isn't to become a clique like the old beliebers club was. If you stop posting, you are off the council until you return. We don't want it just the same 10 people from now until forever. That is irritating.
The forum for discussion should be public, but only accessible to the members of the council.
Being a flat earther is not a pre-requisite. Just a hardcore member of the forum with the society's best interests at heart.
Ok, what do people think?
I'd expect the council to be voting mostly on matters of FET and how to promote it. Whther to appoint presidents, have memberships, what goes into a goodie bag, should we contact such and such a media outlet, who should respond to whatever event, - that kind of thing.
I wouldn't expect too many votes for technical stuff, because frankly our technical team know better than we do. But the council's vote has to be binding, otherwise there is no point in the council.
Is this something people are interested in?
Do the administrators agree to this?
Other suggestions welcome.
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He volunteered. Do you not trust him? The votes seem representative of what most rational people would've expected.
Well, I also voted for Secret User, so it sounds like she's at least at 3 by my count, but...
It shouldn't matter whether or not I trust him. There's a way of doing this without anyone having to rely on anyone at all. There already is controversy about some people supposedly voting by posting instead of PMing and thus being ignored. Why not have a system that simply works, free of manual counting and the vote-counter making personal calls?
Who is the "we" that will agree on these things?
That is one of the things that has yet to be agreed upon.
Really, the council has no power anyway. This is a temporary group of people to figure out all these things. If they don't, it fails. Maybe I am wrong, but it all works for me.
Fair enough. Like I said, I do want to stay out of this. It just irks me when I see people taking a dump on democracy like this.
There was a thread on what the Zetetic Council is:
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=850.0
Yes. I think it's sensible to say that this thread should reach a conclusion before we vote, wouldn't you agree? Alternatively, if you feel everything that should be concluded has already been agreed upon, we should probably action these agreements. One of the important points in this thread was that the Constitution must come before the elections. That did not happen. We agreed on going with preferential voting. That also didn't happen. This election has been ran prematurely and not in accordance to what we've managed to establish in the thread you quoted.
Id like to see the council that the people voted for, now show some ideas and an agenda and try to show those who seem confused what the point is.
You're the one that's confused here. You ignored what everyone agreed upon and now you're acting like your decision has any legitimacy. Read through the damned thread and do things according to procedures we've come to accept.
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ITT: The council is DOA
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Democracy is bunk anyway. I am a communist and if I had my way there wouldn't even be an election. I will double check my pms again later anyway.
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Seriously? That's all the council does? I came up with the video idea and no one voted for me. Cunts.
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I accept the position. I suspect most people will be busy over the Xmas period and I will certainly be looking to get more involved in the new year.
For now though if the admins would be so good as to set up a Zetetic Council sub-forum and give access to the 5 appointees, that would be marvellous. :D
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For now though if the admins would be so good as to set up a Zetetic Council sub-forum and give access to the 5 appointees, that would be marvellous. :D
Not until the election is no longer contested. We will likely have to re-host it with proper democratic measures in place.
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For now though if the admins would be so good as to set up a Zetetic Council sub-forum and give access to the 5 appointees, that would be marvellous. :D
Not until the election is no longer contested. We will likely have to re-host it with proper democratic measures in place.
wat? Why? The people have spoken.
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Does the forum have a "poll" function? Would that, or something like it, add some transparency to the process?
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wat? Why? The people have spoken.
The people have indeed spoken and agreed upon a set of rules. These rules were not followed. The votes were also demonstrably miscounted (or fabricated, but I try to avoid needless accusations). We need an election where everyone is actually accountable, and information is publicly available.
Does the forum have a "poll" function? Would that, or something like it, add some transparency to the process?
It does indeed! Using it or something similar is what I'm suggesting.
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Does the forum have a "poll" function? Would that, or something like it, add some transparency to the process?
It does indeed! Using it or something similar is what I'm suggesting.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the poll function doesn't allow for write-in candidates.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the poll function doesn't allow for write-in candidates.
It can be done but it would require a member of staff to edit the poll - something I'd rather avoid to preserve accountability. With an election of this size, we should hopefully be able to have one round of nominations to make sure everyone is included and then vote without having to write anyone in.
If a write-in does end up being necessary, it could always be done via a public post. That wouldn't be ideal, but it probably won't happen anyway, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if it did happen.
As an alternative, we could always screw voter anonymity and have people just post their votes in a thread. That way everyone would have a clear view of what's happening.
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I am fine with holding the vote again using a public method if it quell everyone's concerns. I don't think the results will change, except maybe Secret User will find herself on the council. I say let's go ahead and do it. To those who have already accepted based on the results of the first vote, don't go anywhere, your services will likely be needed.
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If we're going to go through this again, why don't we make that Elections board to do it in? Organization, and stuff
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Is there a way to hide the poll results until a specified time? Squevil wanted to do the PM method to make the votes anonymous so that everyone could vote for who they think should be on the council instead of just going with the flow or feeling like their vote for "insert nominee" is wasted so they don't end up voting for that person.
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Hahaha yeah you might be right XD
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Something like http://ballotbin.com/ (http://ballotbin.com/) may satisfy everyone's concerns.
From the FAQ:
Election administrator creates the "Bin"
Election administrator adds positions and candidates to the Bin's ballot.
Election administrator adds voters to the Bin
Election administrator sends registration email messages to the voters
Election administrator optionally sends reminder email message(s) to the voters
Voters receive registration email messages and click on the included link. This takes them to the voting page. They fill in the ballot and click "done".
Results are tallied and displayed to the election administrator and optionally to the voters as well.
The list above says email - but according to the admin FAQ it is possible to create voters without email addresses at all, and simply send a registration code via existing means here in the forum. So - create a thread (or forum) for nominations and to allow users to register to vote. Admin puts nominees and registered voters into the Bin, provides voting code(s) to registered voters, and results are provided at a given date and time.
Thoughts?
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I have counted the votes 4 times now because it bothered me that people were saying I made a mistake. I'm embarrassed to say that 1 person wasn't counted for (not pp). Luckily (not that it matters now) it didn't change the votes as they voted for the 3 top people anyway. The changes to the votes so people who selected an admin could make a new choice didn't work too well and I think that made me make an error. In this scenario an automated method would of proved better.
Tom Bishop 111111111111 - 12
Saddam Hussain 111 - 3
Pizaaplanet 1 - 1
Junker 11 - 2
Sean 1 - 1
Thork 1111111 - 7
Rooster (you had 1 but it was changed)
Hoppy 1 - 1
Markjo 1 - 1
Roundy 11111 - 5
Secret User 1 - 1
Ghost Spaghetti 1 - 1
beardo 1 - 1
Tsuami 111111 - 6
The 1s were just for me to tally the numbers. Also don't trust pizaaplanet, he is full of shit and didn't vote at all and I think he is just trying to shit stir, he has obvious objections to the whole idea anyway. I had 1 vote for secret user. I am happy to quote every single pm I have if there are no objections at all to that.
I do suggest that somebody makes a new poll when you feel like it to avoid any mistakes at all. Oh apart from people making multiple accounts and making many votes, I had first hand experience in this and it is one reason I suggested we did it this way.
But I doubt there would be a great difference in the votes either way.
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I am willing to change my name for the good of the society if need be.
I shall make a relevant thread in the Lounge.
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I am willing to change my name for the good of the society if need be.
I shall make a relevant thread in the Lounge.
I will change it back.
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Just saddam perhaps?
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I am willing to change my name for the good of the society if need be.
I shall make a relevant thread in the Lounge.
It would have been good for you to change it a long time ago. Now that it may benefit you, you want to change it now. OK, noted.
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Not for my benefit; the society's.
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Also don't trust pizaaplanet, he is full of shit and didn't vote at all and I think he is just trying to shit stir, he has obvious objections to the whole idea anyway. I had 1 vote for secret user. I am happy to quote every single pm I have if there are no objections at all to that.
Errr...
Yes, I did vote. Thanks very much. No, I do not have "obvious objections" to the idea - on the contrary, it's something I've supported from the beginning. You've just cleared my doubts that you are indeed fucking with this election.
I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this, and speculating about it would be giving you more legitimacy that you deserve at this point, but what you did accomplish is deprived yourself of any and all trust I may have had for you. I no longer think you made a mistake. You deliberately manipulated the votes.
I do suggest that somebody makes a new poll when you feel like it to avoid any mistakes at all. Oh apart from people making multiple accounts and making many votes, I had first hand experience in this and it is one reason I suggested we did it this way.
That's trivial to solve. All your "first-hand experience" only shows is that you're completely incapable of running an election. You:
- Missed someone that isn't me
- Apparently deleted my vote for some reason and are now accusing me of "shit-stirring" on a site I help run
- Didn't even think to post a poll in a forum restricted to current members to prevent alts
But I doubt there would be a great difference in the votes either way.
That's not for you to decide. While the results look fine, you did clearly do something with them.
Is there a way to hide the poll results until a specified time? Squevil wanted to do the PM method to make the votes anonymous so that everyone could vote for who they think should be on the council instead of just going with the flow or feeling like their vote for "insert nominee" is wasted so they don't end up voting for that person.
Yes, you can "only show votes after the poll has expired". That's standard functionality for SMF.
Something like http://ballotbin.com/ (http://ballotbin.com/) may satisfy everyone's concerns.
That is pretty good, but it feels like overengineering it. If people prefer that solution, it's perfectly fine by me, but I think a poll should already cover all bases.
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Fuck off pp you didn't send me anything. You have never liked me and I think you are just set on making me look bad. Unless you posted as an alt that's a regular user then I never got a pm off you. I try and help everyone out and the fucking admin just insult me.
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This is exactly why I was asked for my pms to be monitored.
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Fuck off pp you didn't send me anything. You have never liked me and I think you are just set on making me look bad. Unless you posted as an alt that's a regular user then I never got a pm off you. I try and help everyone out and the fucking admin just insult me.
Actually, I didn't insult you at all until you started this "don't trust pizaaplanet, he's a liar!" schtick. What did you expect? You fucked with the votes, I called you out on it. That's all there would be to it if you didn't make it obvious that you did so deliberately.
Also, "you have never liked me" is not as good an argument as you might think. It's really not.
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I don't want to argue about it. I just don't like being called a liar. I will just forget it as I have lots of respect for you guys.
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I just don't like being called a liar.
Yes, that goes both ways. But you're right, there's no need to fight. Let's forget this clash happened and work as one to set things up.
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I wonder where your pm went though. Do you still have it as a sent message?
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I wonder where your pm went though. Do you still have it as a sent message?
I'm afraid not.
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I trust squevil, and unless someone has a reason to suspect that the results are not correct, I would like to say that I believe he has posted, to the extent of his knowledge, the true results of this vote. The people who have been elected seem like what I would have expected to have been elected. I am fine with going with squevils numbers, and I want to say thanks to squevil for going the trouble of arranging this and spending his own time on the vote organisation.
That being said, I also do not have a problem with a re-vote using a different method. I think we will get approximately the same results.
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It's perfectly reasonable for Pizza to want a recount somewhere where he can be sure of its legitimacy, and it's perfectly reasonable for squevil to be offended by this. I'm glad we can all be somewhat mature here.
I'm fine with redoing the election. I think a poll in the Elections board would be the best way to do it. What do other reasonable, calm people think?
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How about a simple poll to redo the votes? I can't see the results changing much but maybe more people might vote and that could mean a slight change? Personally I liked the result but then again I think every person who was nominated may of been suitable. If the forum was getting lots of people coming I'd even suggest all the names were put on as the number was close to the original 11 people that was suggested in the first place.
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So have we abandoned the preferential voting method?
Well, I'm thinking we could hold a simple poll, but in a board that not everyone has access to
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That requires the admins and they dont want to help with it.
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I am not sure what is meant by having the poll in a board that not everyone has access to. I thought we wanted all members to vote? I can see having it somewhere where the quests can't see it, but I would think that all confirmed members of this site should be able to vote.
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I am not sure what is meant by having the poll in a board that not everyone has access to. I thought we wanted all members to vote? I can see having it somewhere where the quests can't see it, but I would think that all confirmed members of this site should be able to vote.
Well, my concerns are mostly based around angry noobs, trolls, and alts. Do we really want The Knowledge voting for the leadership of FES? I figure we could have a board that we can all have access to, but isolated from the non-regulars. There would be a thread in FEG for requesting access. I'm just thinking about avoiding people's screwing with the poll, because it wouldn't be very hard to do.
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I am not sure what is meant by having the poll in a board that not everyone has access to. I thought we wanted all members to vote? I can see having it somewhere where the quests can't see it, but I would think that all confirmed members of this site should be able to vote.
How about alts voting? Someone could make 15 alts to vote for their self. Especially since alts are not against the rules.
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Well, then, I suppose that we can not vote on anything, ever. Everyone would just make 15 alts in order to skew the voting process in the favor of their side, kind of like how ACORN does with presidential elections.
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That's what happened to me on my forum. It was obvious it was going on but it was a pain in the ass so I scrapped it. I was sick of chasing IPs for new users.
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In case you missed it, I was being sarcastic or facetious towards hoppy's post. I did not mean that people will literally do this.
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I know yours was, but this can happen to some degree. Knowing that this will likely go to a poll, how do you know that people haven't started making alts? People just cheat because they can sometimes.
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A shitty idea, with even shittier execution. I suggest y'all just wrap it up and call it a day.
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I know yours was, but this can happen to some degree. Knowing that this will likely go to a poll, how do you know that people haven't started making alts? People just cheat because they can sometimes.
Do you seriously think that people really give that much of a shit? You got like, what, less than 20 people sending you votes out of all the members here.
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I know yours was, but this can happen to some degree. Knowing that this will likely go to a poll, how do you know that people haven't started making alts? People just cheat because they can sometimes.
I think you're seriously overestimating how much people care
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That requires the admins and they dont want to help with it.
I already said I'd happily facilitate a proper election. I understand you're butthurt, but try to keep it within reason.
I am not sure what is meant by having the poll in a board that not everyone has access to. I thought we wanted all members to vote? I can see having it somewhere where the quests can't see it, but I would think that all confirmed members of this site should be able to vote.
Yes, that's the plan. We'll set up a board where all current members can vote, excluding only currently-existing alts. If anyone makes a new account, they won't have access to the poll by default. Like I said, this is trivial in execution.
That's what happened to me on my forum. It was obvious it was going on but it was a pain in the ass so I scrapped it. I was sick of chasing IPs for new users.
Yes, that's because we all have different talents, and, more importantly, anti-talents. You're good at being on da hood, we're good at computer stuff. You were "chasing IPs for new users" like a complete idiot, and I would make an absolute fool out of myself if I tried wearing a baseball cap backwards or skateboarding. Let's keep it that way and let competent people deal with their respective stuff. I'm not teaching you about my concerns about mad da hood skatin' trix, and you shouldn't try to explain to us how to properly ensure that only legitimate members get a vote.
Now, unless anyone has any issues with this (that carry actual merit), we'll be setting this up later today.
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All good to go.
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=1004.msg10308#new
The deadline for voting is in a week. Everything should be fairly straight-forward. Let me know if there are any issues at all.
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The results are in.
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=1004.msg10787
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So do we know what the Zetetic council is meant to do yet or is it still early days?
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They are probably still working on a secret hand shake. It is essential to get that right first.
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I'm still waiting on input from other members in the sticky thread.
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It would appear that the whole exercise is starting to prove to be pointless. Or im just inpatient.
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I personally am still very busy. I will get my normal life back soon. However there are 4 other elected members who are equally capable of doing something. Anything.
I am available to vote on things if needed and give suggestions, but generating content and trying to get meaningful things done is not realistic in the next week or so.
In the mean time, can we get the Zetetic forum up and running so the Council actually has a place to discuss ideas?
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In the mean time, can we get the Zetetic forum up and running so the Council actually has a place to discuss ideas?
Yes, as soon as we collect enough feedback from the councilors for me to understand what we actually need to set up.
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=1054.msg11469#msg11469
If we don't get more comments by the end of this week, I'll just set it up based on my own guesses.
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Yeah man lets see some action PP :)
May I suggest a forum that anyone can participate in but is just for council chat? Might as well just edit the existing section.
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Yeah man lets see some action PP :)
May I suggest a forum that anyone can participate in but is just for council chat? Might as well just edit the existing section.
it's called the lounge.
No, the council need one board to themselves to discuss things without dancing RErs looking to add objections for the sake of it. You can then discuss anything you see anywhere you like. But not there.
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Yeah man lets see some action PP :)
May I suggest a forum that anyone can participate in but is just for council chat? Might as well just edit the existing section.
it's called the lounge.
No, the council need one board to themselves to discuss things without dancing RErs looking to add objections for the sake of it. You can then discuss anything you see anywhere you like. But not there.
But would it still be a public board?
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Yeah man lets see some action PP :)
May I suggest a forum that anyone can participate in but is just for council chat? Might as well just edit the existing section.
it's called the lounge.
No, the council need one board to themselves to discuss things without dancing RErs looking to add objections for the sake of it. You can then discuss anything you see anywhere you like. But not there.
But would it still be a public board?
No it won't be public. You should have joined the council if you wanted to be in on it.
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So will it be hidden or just going to block others from posting?
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My understanding is that it will be a public board that only council members can post in. That way, it is transparent, but won't get hijacked by others.
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My understanding is that it will be a public board that only council members can post in. That way, it is transparent, but won't get hijacked by others.
This.
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All right, with 3 members of the council being in agreement about this, I reckon I can just go ahead and set that up.
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Done. Only the 5 of you should be able to post there, but everyone should be able to view it. Let me know if there are any issues.
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?board=19.0
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Thank you.
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I can post in that forum.
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I can post in that forum.
Yes, you're a Planar Moderator. You can post everywhere.
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I'm surprised its in the so called upper fora.
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Why
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It's a bit analogous to the old Flat Earth Believers board, isn't it?
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Do you mean a poetry slam?
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It's a bit analogous to the old Flat Earth Believers board, isn't it?
That's my thoughts too. Should be in the lower fora as its not really for discussions about the earths shape.
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It's a bit analogous to the old Flat Earth Believers board, isn't it?
That's my thoughts too. Should be in the lower fora as its not really for discussions about the earths shape.
I would say that as the council are ostensibly the body that discusses and makes ongoing decisions relating to the promotion and organization of the ideals of FET, and that those plans will be discussed in that forum, that it should remain in the upper fora.
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Yes, please refrain from littering my lower fora with your humbug.
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It's a bit analogous to the old Flat Earth Believers board, isn't it?
That's my thoughts too. Should be in the lower fora as its not really for discussions about the earths shape.
Yes, God forbid that the Zetetic Council should have any discussions about the earth's shape or FAQ/Wiki content.
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Then it's better to just name it 'flat earth believers elitist club' and have done with it.
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Maybe you should create a poll to find out how many people are actually concerned about this, and depending on the results we may do something about it.
Until then, uhhh... no.
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Squevil is a squevil.
Also, should I be able to vote in polls in that section? Because I totes did.
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Also, should I be able to vote in polls in that section? Because I totes did.
Uh oh, fixed.
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Are members suppose to be able to sticky threads in the Zetetic Council board?
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Are members suppose to be able to sticky threads in the Zetetic Council board?
Gah. Fixed.
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Why is everyone in the Zetetic Council board showing up as Moderators?
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Why is everyone in the Zetetic Council board showing up as Moderators?
Well, that would be because they are moderators of that board. I'm not entirely sure what you expected my answer to be.
Perhaps a clarification of their permissions profile will be of help: Within that board only, they have privileges that are slightly higher than those of regular users in other boards. For example, they can sticky/unsticky threads, move their own topics from that board to other boards, or add polls to threads.
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That makes sense, I suppose. It's just weird (and a bit frightening) to see Thork as a mod.
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It might be, if he was actually a proper mod. But he's not.
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It might be, if he was actually a proper mod. But he's not.
Jelly.
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It might be, if he was actually a proper mod. But he's not.
Jelly.
Lemon is not made of Jelly, silly boy. And I might have been jealous, if I had been one of the people that put their name forward.
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This thread has long run its course, and apparently people can't resist the temptation of spamming here. Locking.