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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Attachments

« on: May 26, 2022, 08:45:53 PM »

That can happen with the attachments folder during a forum update, too. Nothing is permanent. I'm more of a mind that allowing attachments introduces unnecessary vectors for problems, and they should probably be disabled entirely. Having your images hosted with an image hosting service seems like a better home, and it allows the forum to operate with a lighter footprint on its own host.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question

« on: May 26, 2022, 06:49:30 PM »

So you're changing your argument then? Because initially, it was that FE can't make a single prediction about the moon, remember? Now that you've been asked to actually try and defend that laughably wrong statement, you want to move the goalposts to someplace more comfortable?

I dare to say that despite pretending to know so much about the moon and the hoaxes surrounding it, flat Earthers cannot make a single prediction about the moon. Am I wrong?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Attachments

« on: May 26, 2022, 04:35:54 PM »

Why would you upload a jpeg when places like ImgBB exist? Seems wasteful to take up hosting space for people to upload image files here, when so many hosting sites already exist that are purpose built for serving up images.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question

« on: May 24, 2022, 09:32:44 PM »

I dare to say that despite pretending to know so much about the moon and the hoaxes surrounding it, flat Earthers cannot make a single prediction about the moon. Am I wrong?

You think a group of people could keep track of the behavior of the moon over a period of months or years and not be able to make a single prediction about its behavior? I dare to say I don't think you are actually using your head at all if you'd suggest such a thing. Anyone can take notes on the cycles of waxing and waning and look for patterns that repeat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: May 19, 2022, 11:31:55 PM »

Oh I agree.
But if a guy says "It's ok, I'm on the pill" would you really wanna trust him?  I sure as hell wouldn't.

Society has to get better at teaching guys not to sexually assault people. If you lie about being on birth control and subsequently impregnate someone, I'm pretty sure that checks the sexual assault boxes.

It also doesn't have to be an exclusionary choice. Condoms AND a pill for men AND a pill for women is a great way for everyone to stay safe, have fun, avoid diseases, and not make surprise babies. "And" is ok, maybe even great. "Or" leaves a lot of room for human error, malice, and in-the-moment selfishness to cause long lasting life changes.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)

« on: May 10, 2022, 12:59:32 PM »

I have ascended to Elden Lord finally. The final run of bosses at the end is not for the faint of heart. And there's a bad bitch that I have yet to slay and continues to have never known defeat. Which is to say, I'm not nearly done with this game yet.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map

« on: May 08, 2022, 05:47:39 PM »

Ships sailing north from different lines of latitude converge toward each other. They don't get further away from each other. That is the reality modern navigation has revealed to us. Leaving the discussion of rotated constellations behind (because it is definitely unresolved), you don't account for converging paths as people move north from various longitudes.

The courses of two ships would converge on a Northbound voyage assuming that they are both North of the equator. If they were South of the equator the courses would continue to diverge until they reached the equator.

Sure. I mean, I felt like that went without saying, but I guess it's worth pointing out. I was speaking from a Northern Hemisphere Supremacist perspective and that's probably not ideal.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: May 04, 2022, 12:47:16 AM »

OP does not consider it a FE model. Try reading. If it doesn't work the first time, try again. He said more then once that it's still the globe. Other physicists reviewed it and said it's a globe (also, that's why it's "practically useless" - because using this framework is really impractical when you could use the actual globe). If you spend a few cycles pondering the implications of everything troolon described, it's obviously still a globe. But people get so hung up on fighting against a perceived enemy that it doesn't even matter what is actually being said.

Go ahead though. Tell us all how wrong it is, and how it can't possibly describe reality as we observe it, despite matching observations because it's, you know, the actual fucking globe and stars just illustrated in a way that looks scary and foreign and so, obviously, it must be bad.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: May 01, 2022, 11:53:38 PM »

This is what I meant when I said you two hadn't actually read his posts. It's exactly the globe, expressed in a coordinate system that looks different without being different. The fact anyone is still suggesting the lines of longitude are diverging between the equator and either one of the poles in this thing he shared with us is clear evidence that the people making said suggestion haven't bothered paying any attention, yet they are still here to broadcast their ignorance and laziness for all to see while declaring some sort of weird victory. It's pigeons and chess.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: April 30, 2022, 12:31:58 PM »

Great work, guys. You successfully demonstrated exactly what I said. Sort of, actually. Existoid read without comprehension, so that's at least more than was apparent before.

Every coordinate in 3D space is directly mapped from a single point on the globe to a single point on troolon's FE. It's a globe. Anyone standing on the surface of the Earth would perceive it to be a globe, which has converging lines of longitude at both poles.

But by all means, continue attacking this representation of the globe, expressed in a scary foreign coordinate system.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: April 29, 2022, 09:04:04 PM »

Looks like neither of you read what OP has been writing. If you spend a few minutes actually reading, instead of knee-jerk reacting to yell "NO, FE BAD", you may just discover that the model is quite literally still the same model as the globe. Because it is still the globe model. OP spent a lot of time responding very clearly, and was very patient, and it's clear the folks that have had the most vocal opposition aren't even showing the slightest bit of respect by reading what they have written.

OP did not contend with the divergence of longitude

Yes. Yes, he did.

My argument is a little more sophisticated than "NO, FE BAD" thank you very much.

It might have been, had you actually read what OP was proposing. This is still a globe, and those lines converge using the correct distance metric.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: April 29, 2022, 08:31:03 PM »

Looks like neither of you read what OP has been writing. If you spend a few minutes actually reading, instead of knee-jerk reacting to yell "NO, FE BAD", you may just discover that the model is quite literally still the same model as the globe. Because it is still the globe model. OP spent a lot of time responding very clearly, and was very patient, and it's clear the folks that have had the most vocal opposition aren't even showing the slightest bit of respect by reading what they have written.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Let's use the site-wide theme in CN

« on: April 29, 2022, 02:26:08 PM »

Thanks. There's still a lot to be done, it's not nearly ready, but it's a good start.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Let's use the site-wide theme in CN

« on: April 29, 2022, 02:19:52 PM »

Don't you dare change the CN theme you cultureless heathens.

 

Hear me out though...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map

« on: April 29, 2022, 02:59:55 AM »

Ships sailing north from different lines of latitude converge toward each other. They don't get further away from each other. That is the reality modern navigation has revealed to us. Leaving the discussion of rotated constellations behind (because it is definitely unresolved), you don't account for converging paths as people move north from various longitudes.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map

« on: April 26, 2022, 11:51:41 PM »

If the stars were just a reflection off a dome like you say, based on what you are showing here it seems like people at the same latitudes would expect to see the constellations of stars rotated differently. That doesn't seem to be the case when observing the stars. Instead, they seem to be pretty much the same on any given day when viewed from the same latitude, sort of moving and rotating a bit throughout the year but at all times appear not to be rotated when compared to other locations of the same latitude. What's your take on that situation?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: SMF software update

« on: April 26, 2022, 10:17:55 PM »

The GDPR compliance is probably the most notable change in my book. The ability to download all your data and then permanently delete your account is part of that.

The other thing I liked about it is how they handle passwords, but I think you may have already implemented that here. I'd need to go back and reread the notes, but I think it was a move to bcrypt instead of SHA1 for hashing.

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Suggestions & Concerns / SMF software update

« on: April 26, 2022, 09:26:26 PM »

The forum software we're running has a couple updates waiting in the wings right now that I wanted to point out. The biggest update is they released SMF2.1 now as an official, production-ready release (current version is 2.1.1). That's been years in the making, and it seems like there are some nice improvements baked in. However, it's not nearly as easy to migrate to, even for admins running a vanilla SMF instance, so I imagine that will take some time to get ready for this site.

Probably more relevant is the fact that SMF also released version 2.0.19, which is just an incremental bump to the version of the software running here. Sort of. With the tweaks you guys have made over the years, I would imagine the patch might need a closer inspection to make sure it plays nice with your environment, but it does bring some compatibility and security improvements.

https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=579982.0

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Let's use the site-wide theme in CN

« on: April 26, 2022, 05:05:53 PM »

The main theme is Blanko's variation on Redsy, and I think a Redsy-based theme for CN makes a lot of sense to keep things uniform. I'll take a pull from your github repo and maybe tweak Blanko's theme around a bit to see if I can come up with something that maintains the layout and behavior of the rest of the site, but with more CN-feeling colors etc.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Let's use the site-wide theme in CN

« on: April 26, 2022, 04:15:59 PM »

It's been hashed out here several times before, so I won't dwell on it, but I would very much like a more end-user-friendly CN experience. I know it's not a priority because it's viewed as a garbage board, but it exists as part of this site and it gets used so it seems reasonable to treat it like it's really a part of the same site.

Edit: Yeah, basically what Roundy said, I just forgot to hit "Post" earlier and came back to see I hadn't actually shared this.