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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bernie 2020
« on: February 24, 2019, 07:54:39 PM »


Edit: Obnoxiously large picture


Jesus wasn't socialist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Titanic search in 1985 was a cover
« on: December 23, 2018, 10:32:08 PM »
Makes you giggle when people say, oh that many people couldn't keep the fake moon landing or satellites a secret. They do everyday !

Evidence?

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NASA is on trial.
NASA is far from being "on trial" which is why it remains in the realm of "conspiracy theory."

Of course they are on trial. If I post a video and you can't explain it, then it's evidence of NASA's fraudulence.

Or maybe you're just ignorant of the science behind what's happening. There's more than one option.

Wouldn't you be the ignorant one in that situation?

And I'm freely willing to admit that. However, for you, anything that you can't explain is automatically PROOF that NASA is lying.

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NASA is on trial.
NASA is far from being "on trial" which is why it remains in the realm of "conspiracy theory."

Of course they are on trial. If I post a video and you can't explain it, then it's evidence of NASA's fraudulence.

Or maybe you're just ignorant of the science behind what's happening. There's more than one option.

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I don't believe in conspiracy theories. There is enough disparaging evidence against NASA that it is merely factual informtion.

Such as?

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Honestly, I don't know how to start with this...please, go ahead and explain.

Because they're idiots.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 18, 2018, 01:41:48 AM »
Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?
I have seen police specifically ask persons to remove their sunglasses prior to continuing a conversation during a traffic stop.

That's mainly to ID you better, but ok, you do take off your sunglasses.
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Personally, I take off my sunglasses when I am conversing with anyone about anything. That is what I was taught as child. Look directly at the person to whom you are speaking.

Your last question is somewhat baffling in that police conduct, while on duty, official police business. If you care to further parse for clarification, traffic stops for instance.

You're inside your car while he's standing out in the sun. Is this really such a big issue for you that the officer takes basic care of his eyes?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 18, 2018, 01:37:45 AM »
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.

Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?

I take of my sunglasses personally when I talk to anyone. It's simple courtesy. No power play

I doubt the officer is playing some type of power play if he refuse to take his shades. It could simply be that it's sunny out and he doesn't want to keep squinting his eyes.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 18, 2018, 01:34:46 AM »
This is one example out 900,000 cops, millions of police interactions per week, and at least 100 million gun owners. The likelihood of this happening is quite rare. Besides, this was a security guard, he was supposed to be armed.
Yes it is.  But the NRA would have us think that everyone should own a gun to kill anyone who tries to shoot someone in public. 
And yes, that's my point. A security guard, whose job it is to have a gun, was killed by police.  So what chance does a citizen in street clothes have?

Depending on which reports you read, the gaurd was in street clothes except for his hat that said "security" on it. I have a security hat and on the front it has big bold letters and on the back it has smaller lettering that could be stitched on a name tag. Depending on the angle which the officer approached from, he could've easily missed the lettering. Also a key note here is the fact that the officer gave warnings but the gaurd didn't heed them. So it wasn't really a matter of whether you're wearing street clothes or not in this instance but rather putting the gun down when told to.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 16, 2018, 09:08:53 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.

A lot of obvious things can be missed if you're tunnel visioned on a threat like a gun to a man's head. I'm not defending him, but I can see why he shot. The officer sees the gun to a man's head that can go off in a split second, the officer gave warnings to drop the gun, the guard doesn't, so the officer shoots.


Which is why citizens with guns in public is a bad idea.

This is one example out 900,000 cops, millions of police interactions per week, and at least 100 million gun owners. The likelihood of this happening is quite rare. Besides, this was a security guard, he was supposed to be armed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 11:22:00 PM »
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.

Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 11:19:49 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.

A lot of obvious things can be missed if you're tunnel visioned on a threat like a gun to a man's head. I'm not defending him, but I can see why he shot. The officer sees the gun to a man's head that can go off in a split second, the officer gave warnings to drop the gun, the guard doesn't, so the officer shoots.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 11:14:03 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.

Is it standard practice for police to fire on a person without verifying the target?

No. Police are trained to reasonably make sure your target is actually a threat. I say reasonably because real life doesn't always give you a textbook clear threat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:17:19 AM »
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:15:48 AM »
Here is Thai police. Imagine the outcome if in America!

http://www.directexpose.com/police-officer-hug/

Luke, what's the protocol for American police if someone comes in their station screaming with a knife? Your colleague gunned down an aussie woman for approaching the police car after calling for help after all!



Tell me that's not a tear jerker!

Every country deals with people armed with knives as lethal threats. This is a extremely specific outcome that is not taught anywhere in the world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:14:02 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

Luke is a policeman. Part of his job requires him to make excuses for his murderous colleagues.

Correction, I never was a police officer. I was auxiliary law enforcement for a short bit but now I'm seeking employment as a law enforcement officer. Also, I don't make excuses. If the cop had no basis to shoot the guard then he doesn't have basis to shoot the guard.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:11:18 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 14, 2018, 04:35:28 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 11, 2018, 06:59:38 PM »
Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

I can't speak for the rest of the world but to call US police militaristic is strecthing the term at best.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: American Police vs British Police
« on: November 11, 2018, 04:29:56 AM »
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.

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