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« Reply #180 on: December 19, 2013, 03:57:09 AM »
Your argument against him lies on a single game, that says something about him as a QB.

He has done marvelously with the shit (due to injury, but shit nonetheless) team he has this year.
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« Reply #181 on: December 19, 2013, 04:07:02 AM »
Your argument against him lies on a single game

Which would've been the most important game in NFL history had he won, but he didn't.  There are plenty of QBs who have lost Superbowls in the last decade, he falls in that category.

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« Reply #182 on: December 19, 2013, 04:07:41 AM »
Also, he went to Michigan.  Seriously, fuck Michigan.

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« Reply #183 on: December 19, 2013, 04:08:03 AM »
I'm biased to be sure, and I definitely don't think it's a no-brainer.  The post-merger defenses you all list are pretty spectacular.  But offenses have become remarkably more efficient even since the 01 Ravens, so I'm less inclined to accept that those defenses were better by looking only at point and yardage totals.
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« Reply #184 on: December 19, 2013, 04:08:48 AM »
I also don't get the whole 'Brady lost one game that was important and so he isn't that good' argument. 
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« Reply #185 on: December 19, 2013, 04:11:18 AM »
I also don't get the whole 'Brady lost one game that was important and so he isn't that good' argument.

Who said he wasn't good?  He is fantastic.

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« Reply #186 on: December 19, 2013, 04:17:16 AM »
No, he is not good. He is the very best.

Eh sorry. I am bored. I just want someone to disagree with me. I will scurry away now until I have something to talk about.
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« Reply #187 on: December 19, 2013, 04:19:53 AM »
No, he is not good. He is the very best.

Eh sorry. I am bored. I just want someone to disagree with me. I will scurry away now until I have something to talk about.

Until you prove he is worthy of being in the all-time top 5, hit the bricks.  His wife makes more money than him.

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« Reply #188 on: December 19, 2013, 04:21:10 AM »
I also don't get the whole 'Brady lost one game that was important and so he isn't that good' argument.

Who said he wasn't good?  He is fantastic.

Oh.  I took you to be saying that he sucks or something.
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« Reply #189 on: December 19, 2013, 04:21:42 AM »
I also don't get the whole 'Brady lost one game that was important and so he isn't that good' argument.

Who said he wasn't good?  He is fantastic.

Oh.  I took you to be saying that he sucks or something.

Nope.  His only problem is that he is from Michigan.

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« Reply #190 on: December 19, 2013, 04:33:20 AM »
Okay, by ranking all time QBs.

Pass rating.# 5.    Tom Brady   95.9         
Wins: #5    Tom Brady    146 (played 63 fewer games than Manning, 65 less than Marino, 56 less than Elway)
Superbowl starts #1 with 5
Superbowl wins: tied #2 with 3

Is this good enough for top 5? Many of these leading QBs had better teams throughout their careers as well as playing more games.

 
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« Reply #191 on: December 19, 2013, 04:34:31 AM »
I think he is #5 with passing yards but I got tired of looking this shit up.
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« Reply #192 on: December 19, 2013, 04:40:27 AM »
Brady walked into a SB favorite his first year when Bledsoe got hurt.  Once the magic wore off a few years later, he became a failure when it mattered most.

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« Reply #193 on: December 19, 2013, 04:51:34 AM »
Is this good enough for top 5? Many of these leading QBs had better teams throughout their careers as well as playing more games.
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Also, Brady is one of seven second stringers to come in and win a superbowl, however one of first to do so in his first season ever starting a game.
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« Reply #194 on: December 19, 2013, 05:04:46 AM »
Their defense might be the best that's ever been on an NFL field.
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« Reply #195 on: December 19, 2013, 05:07:39 AM »
Also, Brady is one of seven second stringers to come in and win a superbowl, however one of first to do so in his first season ever starting a game.

Yes, he had a great team while they won with average QB play.  Much like the Ravens the year before.

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« Reply #196 on: December 19, 2013, 05:15:51 AM »
Also, Brady is one of seven second stringers to come in and win a superbowl, however one of first to do so in his first season ever starting a game.

Yes, he had a great team while they won with average QB play.  Much like the Ravens the year before.

srsly? He had a great season for someone who was essentially a rookie.
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« Reply #197 on: December 19, 2013, 05:19:03 AM »
Also, he outperformed expectations, wasn't he a 4th string the previous season?
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« Reply #198 on: December 19, 2013, 05:24:30 AM »
Also, Brady is one of seven second stringers to come in and win a superbowl, however one of first to do so in his first season ever starting a game.

Yes, he had a great team while they won with average QB play.  Much like the Ravens the year before.

srsly? He had a great a decent season for someone who was essentially a rookie.

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« Reply #199 on: December 19, 2013, 06:02:55 AM »
Sean, you should watch "Brady 6", if you haven't already. It's probably on Youtube.
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