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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 06, 2023, 08:41:27 PM »

You have nothing useful to contribute.

I see.

My commentary can only be useful as that which I am criticizing.

So, nothing.

Fine.

stack simply engaged in a "CONTINUE TO SLUR THE DOCTOR WHO OFFERS SOUND MEDICAL ADVICE," because the FDA and CDC instituted gag orders on his website (which if you bothered to check, still has much the same information present).

That sentence is something else, man.  I promise, that if you edit it to make sense, I will respond to it.

I cannot help it if you cannot read.

That will not fly for much longer, because the doctor has actually filed suit to end the bullshit actions taken by these lying asswipes in these agencies.

That sounds way more libellous than anything Stack wrote.

I cannot help it if there are proven lying, asswipes occupying positions authority in these agencies.

No one here cares about your worthless opinion of me.

At least you do, obviously.

I cannot help it you cannot read.

Serial idiocy is also quite destructive. You should get that checked out.

Sayonara, Joe.

The real question is where is the evidence that this "doctor's" medical advice is effective?  Could your next comment be the one where you finally provide positive evidence for something; anything really?

People have a better overall quality of health and resistance to disease by maintaining appropriate levels of Vitamins C and D.

Specifically, related to Covid -

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 06, 2023, 08:17:51 PM »

Showing the history of the FDA and other US government entities attempting to quash effective alternative methods of treatment for Covid and other respiratory illnesses, simply due to the desire to mandate a vaccine, is hardly the "gotcha," you think it is.

Current evidence actually demonstrates Vitamin C and D have always been an effective way to mitigate the harmful effects and alleviate symptoms of, not only Covid, but all forms of respiratory illness.

The officials and bureau(pieces of)craps within the FDA, CDC, and NIH, have clearly demonstrated over the past four years or so a strong predilection toward purposefully lying to the public at large.

You are so strong to move the goal posts so quickly.

Yeah, I agree stack moves goalposts very quickly.

Now, do you have anything related to the topic at hand?

It's ok if you don't understand how quotes work, just own up to it.  Related to the topic at hand... Stack substantiated his point, you moved the goal posts.  Stack looks to be correct in everything except the way he refers to "reply x".  You are shitting the bed in this debate, he is not.  That doctor is a crank and that is probably why you are defending him.  Serial contrarian behaviour is very destructive, you should see about getting help.

You have nothing useful to contribute.

I see.

stack simply engaged in a "CONTINUE TO SLUR THE DOCTOR WHO OFFERS SOUND MEDICAL ADVICE," because the FDA and CDC instituted gag orders on his website (which if you bothered to check, still has much the same information present).

So, yeah, stack was correct in his copy/pasta, liberal, fact-check, tactic about the actions of the FDC, etc. But that is all he has been correct about in his entire time here at this site. That will not fly for much longer, because the doctor has actually filed suit to end the bullshit actions taken by these lying asswipes in these agencies.

Because maintaining healthy levels of Vitamin C and Vitamin D are proven and effective measures to take for all types of disease.

Only an idiot would disagree with that.

Just in case you were wondering, serial idiocy is also quite destructive. Self-concern should prompt you to get a self-screen. Early detection might be helpful.

Sayonara, Joe.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 06, 2023, 08:03:05 PM »

Showing the history of the FDA and other US government entities attempting to quash effective alternative methods of treatment for Covid and other respiratory illnesses, simply due to the desire to mandate a vaccine, is hardly the "gotcha," you think it is.

Current evidence actually demonstrates Vitamin C and D have always been an effective way to mitigate the harmful effects and alleviate symptoms of, not only Covid, but all forms of respiratory illness.

The officials and bureau(pieces of)craps within the FDA, CDC, and NIH, have clearly demonstrated over the past four years or so a strong predilection toward purposefully lying to the public at large.

You are so strong to move the goal posts so quickly.

Yeah, I agree stack moves goalposts very quickly.

Now, do you have anything related to the topic at hand?

Would you, perhaps discuss the state of the countersuits the doctor has filed against these agencies and a sitting US Senator for these actions of censorship?

Would you care to discuss the importance of a healthy human endocrinal/immune system in warding of various types of disease?

I doubt it, given your post history.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 06, 2023, 11:07:34 AM »

Showing the history of the FDA and other US government entities attempting to quash effective alternative methods of treatment for Covid and other respiratory illnesses, simply due to the desire to mandate a vaccine, is hardly the "gotcha," you think it is.

Between all the "terrible," things you ascribe to a single doctor, and the multitude of acts that can only be described as inhumane that have been perpetrated by the FDA/CDC against their own populace, instigating and perpetuating the endless mind-fuck over a disease that has proven to be less deadly than the flu, over-reporting the actual numbers, ascribing them as "death by Covid," rather than "death with Covid," mask mandates, lockdowns, separating loved ones, denying the sharing of final moments, etc., I'll take the doctor.

Current evidence actually demonstrates Vitamin C and D have always been an effective way to mitigate the harmful effects and alleviate symptoms of, not only Covid, but all forms of respiratory illness.

The officials and bureau(pieces of)craps within the FDA, CDC, and NIH, have clearly demonstrated over the past four years or so a strong predilection toward purposefully lying to the public at large.

Especially considering he openly discusses these very issues you raise in your post.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 05, 2023, 07:02:44 PM »

Sorry, your FDA source has ZERO credibility.

If you wanted to just state your opinion you could have done that a few posts ago. It doesn't mean anything, being just an opinion and all, bereft of facts, but if you just want to talk about your feels, that's fine.

Your FDA hasn't been able to take any action on what you chose to use an attempted slur against the good doctor.

Typical.

Apparently, this isn't the good Dr. Mercola's first rodeo with the Feds.

2016:
Marketers of Indoor Tanning Systems to Pay Refunds to Consumers
Defendants Ran Ads Claiming That Indoor Tanning Is Safe, Doesn’t Increase the Risk of Skin Cancer
The Illinois-based marketers of Mercola-brand indoor tanning systems will pay refunds to consumers and will be permanently banned from marketing or selling indoor tanning systems, under a settlement with the Federal Trade Commission.

In the FTC’s complaint, which was filed in federal court, the Commission charged that Dr. Joseph Mercola and his two companies ran ads claiming that their indoor tanning systems are safe, that research proves indoor tanning does not increase the risk of melanoma skin cancer, and that their systems which deliver both ultraviolet (UV) light and red light can “reverse the appearance of aging.” The FTC’s complaint alleged that these claims are false, misleading, or unsubstantiated.

Finally, the defendants must pay refunds to consumers who bought Mercola brand indoor tanning systems between January 1, 2012 and the present. An FTC redress administrator will send refund eligibility notices and claim forms to these consumers. Purchasers who want a refund must return the claim form by the date stated in the letter. The defendants are required to pay a maximum of $5,334,067 to cover the cost of refunds and administration of the refund program.

Ultimately, he had to refund $2.6 million for his tanning salon solutions. I'd say that's definitely the Feds (FTC) "taking action". Wouldn't you think so? Unless you think 2 1/2 million dollars isn't that much of an "action".

So, the FDA hasn't taken any action.

Thanks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 05, 2023, 10:18:48 AM »

Sorry, your FDA source has ZERO credibility.

If you wanted to just state your opinion you could have done that a few posts ago. It doesn't mean anything, being just an opinion and all, bereft of facts, but if you just want to talk about your feels, that's fine.

Your FDA hasn't been able to take any action on what you chose to use an attempted slur against the good doctor.

Typical.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 05, 2023, 09:36:37 AM »

What changes did they make to the data to change the numbers after the criticism of this?

« Reply #154 on: February 03, 2023, 12:19:17 AM »

It is pretty clear that health authorities are not being entirely honest with us:

https://gellerreport.com/2021/09/shocking-fraud-cdc-now-lists-vaccinated-deaths-as-unvaccinated.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online

Researchers and regulators say Joseph Mercola, an osteopathic physician, creates and profits from misleading claims about Covid-19 vaccines.

Dr. Mercola, 67, an osteopathic physician in Cape Coral, Fla., has long been a subject of criticism and government regulatory actions for his promotion of unproven or unapproved treatments. But most recently, he has become the chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online, according to researchers.

Ah...the good old, "according to [unnamed sources], who told us such and such," trick.

From the get-go, the entirety of official government reports, especially the "death by," numbers issued by the GOVERNMENTS across the world, has been nothing but lies.

Your willingness to not just DRINK but SELL their Kool-Aid is quite telling.

Interesting how you consider the FDA, who took "government regulatory actions" against Mercola, an "unnamed source". That's a new one.

The FDA has observed that your website offers “Liposomal Vitamin C,” “Liposomal Vitamin D3,” and “Quercetin and Pterostilbene Advanced” products for sale in the United States and that these products are intended to mitigate, prevent, treat, diagnose, or cure COVID-191 in people. Based on our review, these products are unapproved new drugs sold in violation of section 505(a) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act), 2pt1 U.S.C. § 355(a). Furthermore, these products are misbranded drugs under section 502 of the FD&C Act, 21 U.S.C. § 352. The introduction or delivery for introduction of these products into interstate commerce is prohibited under sections 301(a) and (d) of the FD&C Act, 21 U.S.C. § 331(a) and (d).

You should take immediate action to address the violations cited in this letter. This letter is not meant to be an all-inclusive list of violations that exist in connection with your products or operations. It is your responsibility to ensure that the products you sell are in compliance with the FD&C Act and FDA's implementing regulations. We advise you to review your websites, product labels, and other labeling and promotional materials to ensure that you are not misleadingly representing your products as safe and effective for a COVID-19-related use for which they have not been approved by FDA and that you do not make claims that misbrand the products in violation of the FD&C Act.

What, no follow-up to any outcome of the issues raised by the letters?

Could that be due to all the treatments previously identified by the FDA as "wacko science," suddenly being okay to use?

Remember the almighty FDA pushing the narrative that ivermectin was HORSE DEWORMER, despite its original development in successfully curing river blindness in human populations?

Sorry, your FDA source has ZERO credibility.

You and the others here have successfully achieved your goal of destabilizing world governments to the point where criminal enterprise can continue to run free and unchecked.

I'm sure the pockets of the handlers are very well-lined.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 05, 2023, 07:12:39 AM »

What changes did they make to the data to change the numbers after the criticism of this?

« Reply #154 on: February 03, 2023, 12:19:17 AM »

It is pretty clear that health authorities are not being entirely honest with us:

https://gellerreport.com/2021/09/shocking-fraud-cdc-now-lists-vaccinated-deaths-as-unvaccinated.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online

Researchers and regulators say Joseph Mercola, an osteopathic physician, creates and profits from misleading claims about Covid-19 vaccines.

Dr. Mercola, 67, an osteopathic physician in Cape Coral, Fla., has long been a subject of criticism and government regulatory actions for his promotion of unproven or unapproved treatments. But most recently, he has become the chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online, according to researchers.

Ah...the good old, "according to [unnamed sources], who told us such and such," trick.

From the get-go, the entirety of official government reports, especially the "death by," numbers issued by the GOVERNMENTS across the world, has been nothing but lies.

Your willingness to not just DRINK but SELL their Kool-Aid is quite telling.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 04, 2023, 11:06:44 AM »

Maybe next you could work out the difference between the article's 186 and the actual real data from the source of 1097. Looking forward to your results.

Maybe next time, you could actually point out the link in the article where you found the new number.

Look forward to your follow-up.

You really need to work on your reading comrehension skills...

However, when you click on the link in article to the data report they are citing, "Weekly status report of the RKI on coronavirus disease-2019 (Covid-19)" from the Koch Institute, 12/30/2021 – UPDATED STATUS FOR GERMANY, SHORT REPORT and translate the pdf from German, right up at the top, in red, it says:

"Correction: On p. 14, the number of unvaccinated among the reported omicron cases on January 3, 2022 was corrected (before: 186; afterwards: 1,097)."

But because I'm feeling charitable, here's a quick tutorial on some of the basics of website functionality, of which, apparently, you seem to be unaware of...



Let me know if you need any further assistance.

Now, why do you think a provided correction somehow renders the article incorrect?

If you cared to read the article you would realize that the entire piece is predicated on the difference between:

Unvaxed = 0.0008%
Vaxed = 0.006%

When in reality, as you so deftly pointed out, it's actually:

Unvaxed = 0.005%
Vaxed = 0.007%

Now apply your math wizardry to the difference between 0.0008% & 0.005% as well as 0.0008% & 0.007%. Let us know what you come up with.

I don't need to.

You need to show why an article that provides correct figures is incorrect.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 04, 2023, 05:00:49 AM »

Maybe next you could work out the difference between the article's 186 and the actual real data from the source of 1097. Looking forward to your results.

Maybe next time, you could actually point out the link in the article where you found the new number.

Look forward to your follow-up.

You really need to work on your reading comrehension skills...

However, when you click on the link in article to the data report they are citing, "Weekly status report of the RKI on coronavirus disease-2019 (Covid-19)" from the Koch Institute, 12/30/2021 – UPDATED STATUS FOR GERMANY, SHORT REPORT and translate the pdf from German, right up at the top, in red, it says:

"Correction: On p. 14, the number of unvaccinated among the reported omicron cases on January 3, 2022 was corrected (before: 186; afterwards: 1,097)."

But because I'm feeling charitable, here's a quick tutorial on some of the basics of website functionality, of which, apparently, you seem to be unaware of...



Let me know if you need any further assistance.

Now, why do you think a provided correction somehow renders the article incorrect?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 03, 2023, 07:08:26 PM »

Maybe next you could work out the difference between the article's 186 and the actual real data from the source of 1097. Looking forward to your results.

Maybe next time, you could actually point out the link in the article where you found the new number.

Look forward to your follow-up.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: February 03, 2023, 05:46:41 PM »

What's really interesting is that the article says:

"So the unvaccinated had 186 cases out of 26.5% of the population. While the fully vaccinated had 4020 cases out of 70.53% of the population."

Unvaxed = 186 cases of Omicron, 26% of pop, or 22m
Vaxed = 4020 case of Omicron, 70% of pop, or 61m

(Pay attention to the 186 number)

Meaning the Omincron infection rate is:

Unvaxed = 0.0008%
Vaxed = 0.006%

The article uses that data to then go about their extrapolations.

However, when you click on the link in article to the data report they are citing, "Weekly status report of the RKI on coronavirus disease-2019 (Covid-19)" from the Koch Institute, 12/30/2021 – UPDATED STATUS FOR GERMANY, SHORT REPORT and translate the pdf from German, right up at the top, in red, it says:

"Correction: On p. 14, the number of unvaccinated among the reported omicron cases on January 3, 2022 was corrected (before: 186; afterwards: 1,097)."

So now that 186 number in the article is actually 1097.

Doing the calculations again with the corrected number:

Unvaxed = 186 1097 cases of Omicron, 26% of pop, or 22m
Vaxed = 4020 case of Omicron, 70% of pop, or 61m

Meaning the Omincron infection rate is:

Unvaxed = .0008% 0.005%
Vaxed = 0.006%

Now, it's 0.005% versus 0.006% which renders the entire article incorrect and moot.

Wrong.

It is .005% vs .007%

1097/22000000 * 100 = .00498 or .005

4020/61000000 * 100 = .00659 or .007

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Who makes these images?

« on: January 30, 2023, 12:26:16 PM »

My first comment, Pete, but I've been following with mild interest since the start.  I gotta say SA10's original question has merit but, from a FE perspective, I don't think it needs much answering; obviously the billions going into NASA, AI, CGI, blah, blah, and its not much of a leap to write it down to "the conspiracy". 

My interest was piqued further by the light-saber sub-thread, and your apparent dismissal of the explanations as a too-convenient retcon.  Well excuse me, but of course its convenient; its true.  I remembered reading about the pre-positioning of the sample tubes before Christmas, but it took me till last night for me to be bothered to track down the BBC's report. 

So, whad'ya think?  Pre-emptive press-release from NASA in case anyone accidentally leaves any light-sabers around the film set?

Lemme guess...

You are under the impression the MORE ANGLES from which photos are taken miraculously adds MORE legitimacy to the sample tube claim, rather than presenting perhaps a photo that is dated differently than that already presented?

You love to sacrifice everything you have to the liars controlling the world governments.

At least you share that with pete. Try to keep remaining on common ground with him, instead of perpetuating the ruse.

Neither will remain in place for long, anyway.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: January 29, 2023, 04:22:40 PM »

A fine, upstanding example of a pharmaceutical executive in action.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon

« on: January 27, 2023, 02:29:34 PM »

You are somehow under the impression a body of water encompassing that many million square miles is going to remain consistently level across it's length and width?

Why wouldn't it if the earth is flat?
Water finds its level is the common FE mantra. Obviously there will be waves and so on, but why wouldn't it be roughly level on a FE?

Waves, swells, and numerous other things, which you mention.

Just like the ground is wavy, dippy, and other imperfections.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon

« on: January 27, 2023, 01:25:45 PM »

But its the round earthers and occasional pilots and frequent fliers that are the ones claiming to see a curve from left to right its they who you should be addressing.

Frequent flyers and airline pilots that make that claim must have been into the free booze.  Maybe the odd test pilot of hypersonic, experimental ultra high-altitude aircraft might get a glimpse of a curve.

So, the OP's question was to flat earthers.  Flat earthers claim that since they do not see a curvature, the earth must be flat.  On the other side of the fence people say that, since the earth is ginormous and we are tiny, we should not be able to see a curvature.  In essence we are okay and unshaken by that same observation.

Let's say you were out on the middle of the pacific ocean, bobbing up and down in an inner tube, and, for the sake of argument, the world was as science say's it is.  What would you (as a flat earther) need to see that would confirm to you the earth was indeed a sphere 12,742,000 meters in diameter?

If you are in the middle of the Pacific, it will mean no difference.

You are somehow under the impression a body of water encompassing that many million square miles is going to remain consistently level across it's length and width?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Russia doesn't invade, they recognize Donbass Republics: send in peacekeepers !

« on: December 01, 2022, 03:51:17 PM »

And for some reason a lot of Western pundits keep cowering in fear of Russia as if the last 9 months didn't happen.

It's like their minds are trapped in 1945.

Incorrect.  Their minds are trapped in trying to own the Biden administration.

LOL!!! What a weak take...even Biden doesn't own the Biden administration.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly

« on: November 30, 2022, 12:43:45 PM »

"Died Suddenly," is just another way of reporting the natural results of the baby boomer population (1945-1965). People from this age group are beginning the next phase of the life cycle. The speed of media fuels the rest of the fear. Weak sites like this, a refuge for DARPA bots, simply pile on.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Russia doesn't invade, they recognize Donbass Republics: send in peacekeepers !

« on: October 16, 2022, 01:35:05 PM »

And in language, means one can be used in place of the other.  Same or nearly the same definition.

But an Acronym describes a type of Abbreviation (using only the first word), not an abbreviation as a whole.

So if I were to say "Dr. Is an acronym for Doctor" I would be wrong.  Thus they are not synonymous.

Please return to 2nd grade for re-education.I a t d m i o t f f.

FTFY. Nnttm.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Russia doesn't invade, they recognize Donbass Republics: send in peacekeepers !

« on: October 16, 2022, 10:43:18 AM »

Last I checked, an acronym is synonymous with the word abbreviation.

Perhaps you should check again:

An abbreviation is a shortened version of a longer word (such as Dr. or Prof.), while an acronym forms a new word using the first letter of each word from a phrase (such as radar or ASAP). Writers often use the words abbreviations and acronyms interchangeably, yet the two are quite distinct.

I did check again. Why they let you anywhere near this forum is now obvious.

ac·ro·nym
/ˈakrəˌnim/
Learn to pronounce
noun
an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g. ASCII, NASA ).

And its funny how you still show you can't read.

Do you know what synonymous is?

^again, another only demonstrating the purpose of the site.

F f t g t s o o e e h. I a n g f i.

L d i a r, r o t m i.

Yes, synonymous means sharing characteristics. Could be exactly the same or nearly the same.

N, g f w s e, y N l.