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It's quite amazing that AI has reached this level of sophistication, and from  a strictly technical perspective it is extremely attractive.  However, I feel the impact on human culture will be minimal for now.  Commercial artists may see a downturn in low paying work and it may even extend into commercial photography.  However, the real patrons of visual art will not be interested in hanging some AI produced soulless image on their walls.

I had a discussion about this a few months ago with my sister who illustrates children's books for a living.  She says it has not yet had an impact on her work.  The writers want to be able to communicate with the artists, work out the look and feel of the images and ensure that carries though the entire work.

Thing is though, AI produced art is only the beginning.  It will eventually make headway into all intellectual endeavors, and at some point it will get better at them than us.  I guess humanity has a choice.  Embrace it and find a new role for ourselves, or fight it.  I think we will choose the former as we always have when machines were given the jobs we used to do.

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And with automation already taking away non-artistic jobs, then what will be left in the future?
It is ridiculous to demand that you are paid for the things you enjoy doing.
So you should only get a job you don't like?

I'm so glad I'm not like you Tom.  So very glad.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 20, 2022, 02:32:57 PM »
You even posted a source stating the exact same thing.
Nope.  The post did not say that as I already pointed out.  Like I said, find a 5th grader to explain it to you.

Gaslighting is the only thing you got.
Nope.  Another word you don't seem to know the meaning of.

Sad.
You are free to be mistaken.  It's up to you, and yes, the fact you seem okay with that is sad indeed.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 20, 2022, 03:59:57 AM »
It does not matter why the sun and moon appear larger.

The fact is this: They do appear larger.
Right.  What matters is that fact that the sun and moon appearing larger is not the reality of the situation.  If you wanted to take the trouble of properly measuring the size of the sun at noon and at sunset, you would find that they are exactly the same size.  That is not what one would expect if the earth was flat and the sun was physically moving across the sky.

I'm going to have to disagree markjo.  AchtungAteHe is not right.  The word "appear" does not allow for imagined errors.  It just means you can see it.  The Sun (or moon) does not "appear" larger.  It appears, and if you measure it it will not be larger.  The "larger" comes from your brain.  You may be "seeing" it larger, but it does not "appear" larger.

There, the pedantic semantic shit is out of the way.  Use "see" not "appear" for crap the your brain makes up.

All that aside, the language in the post I provided is correct.  And the treatment of the situation therein is correct.  Lackey is wrong - as usual.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 11:49:52 PM »
The fact is this: They do appear larger.
That we will categorize as a flat earth type fact = total fiction.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 09:14:46 PM »
Did you miss the word illusion in there?  ::)
Nope. Did you miss the word appear?
No I didn't, however I know how English works.  The sentence clearly says that it is an illusion that "the Sun appears bigger".  This means it does not appear bigger, it's just an illusion.  Did you also miss the sentence structure?  It did not just say "The sun appears larger"  it said "That the sun appears larger" as in they are referring to the statement "The sun appears larger" and go on to explain that it is incorrect.
 ???
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Evidently, you do not know how English works.

David Copperfield caused an elephant, that was appearing in front of my eyes, to disappear.

But it was an illusion.

Illusions are fundamentally based on how things appear.
Go ask a 5th grader to explain it to you, if they are normal they would know this.

Copperfield made the elephant disappear.  One second you saw it, the next you didn't.  It may have still been there, but he arranged it so you could no longer see it.

The sun does not appear larger on the horizon, you just think it does, but you can easily verify that it doesn't by doing the experiment she suggested.

I give up.   Go find that 5th grader.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 07:24:50 PM »
Did you miss the word illusion in there?  ::)
Nope. Did you miss the word appear?
No I didn't, however I know how English works.  The sentence clearly says that it is an illusion that "the Sun appears bigger".  This means it does not appear bigger, it's just an illusion.  Did you also miss the sentence structure?  It did not just say "The sun appears larger"  it said "That the sun appears larger" as in they are referring to the statement "The sun appears larger" and go on to explain that it is incorrect.
 ???
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 07:05:39 PM »
Did you miss the word illusion in there?  ::)

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 06:26:10 PM »
It is quite frequently observed that both objects appear much larger when they are on the horizon.
You don't ever tire of being wrong, do you?

Quote from: Kristine Seppkins, Ph.D, Cornell
That the Sun appears larger when it is on the horizon is just an optical illusion. The brain thinks that objects on the horizon should be farther away than objects overhead; since the Sun is the same apparent size in both places, the brain concludes that the Sun is physically bigger when it's on the horizon, and thus tricks you into thinking that the angular size is bigger than when it's overhead. This phenomenon is known as the Ponzo Illusion, and occurs for the Moon as well.

To convince yourself that this is, in fact, an optical illusion, put your head between your legs and look at the Sun upside down when it's on the horizon: it should look the same as it does when overhead.

For more information about the "larger Sun" and other astronomical myths, check out Phil Plait's article (now on the Moon and not the Sun but it's the same idea!).

Quoted from here.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 05:13:03 PM »
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The sun remains the same size as it recedes into the distance due to a magnification effect caused by the intense rays of light passing through the strata of the atmolayer.

Okay, what's the mathematical formula for this?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 04:44:40 PM »
The effect you referenced isn't glare. It's an effect referenced on the tfes page I linked and is also known as Circles of Confusion. It shows that it is possible for a body to magnify on a medium between the observer and the object, creating light sources which are consistent in size, showing that it is possible for a light source to maintain its diameter in the distance.
Right, it's not glare.  And it only happens when the object is out of focus.  If you focus in on the object with good optics it will render it's appropriate size given the magnification in play.  Lights further away, when in proper focus, will look smaller.

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In optics, a circle of confusion is an optical spot caused by a cone of light rays from a lens not coming to a perfect focus when imaging a point source. It is also known as disk of confusion, circle of indistinctness, blur circle, or blur spot.


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The size of the circle of confusion affects the sharpness of a photographic image. A small circle of confusion indicates a very narrow spot of light that creates a tiny point on the plane of focus; this is associated with very sharp focus. A large circle of confusion indicates a wider beam creating a blur spot at the focus point; this is not conducive to a particularly sharp image, but it can create a strong bokeh effect.



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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset
« on: August 19, 2022, 03:31:30 PM »
If you can't explain it then you don't know what it is. If you don't know what it is, then the consistent size effect of distant bodies may be happening to other light sources such as the Sun.
The constant size in the video you posted is because the further the lights are away, the more out of focus they are.  This effect, called bokeh, will make the further lights seem to all be the same size.  It is a consequence of the optical design of the lens and aperture.  It would probably benefit you to do some research into how optics work rather than just assume whatever nonsense supports your flawed intellectual bias.

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Sorry, are we in CN here?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 10:08:14 PM »
Sometimes it's 100% if the woman chooses to drug and rape a man or go to a sperm donation bank.

But the responsibility for getting pregnant is irrelevant. We are talking about the responsibility to the child after pregnancy has already occurred. At this stage the man is legally responsible (maybe not if he was raped or donated sperm) and there is nothing he can do about it at that point. The law says he is responsible to the child. The woman can escape responsibility to her child by killing it. The woman has more options to escape responsibility than the man has.
Sorry Tom.  In the case (A) of the woman going to the sperm bank 1) the man is off the hook and 2) the woman did nothing immoral and 3) if she went to the sperm bank she would not be likely to looking for an abortion a few weeks later.  Your other case is ridiculous.  A drug strong enough to knock a man completely out like that would make him impotent and is completely unnecessary given the availability of case (A).

All that aside you seem to be having trouble with simple logic here, the cases where the woman wants to "escape responsibility" are those cases where she did not want it in the first place or the situation was forced on her.  The man has the very same set of responsibilities when the pregnancy is due to a coupling.  He can also escape them by the means you suggest for the woman.  By being a moral little boy, keeping his dick in his pants and waiting until marriage.  If he takes the worm out for a spelunking, then that is the point where he has crossed the line and bears responsibility.

The real difference in why the woman should have one further chance to opt out is that Loverboy does not face the same harsh realities the woman does in going forward with the unwanted pregnancy.  All he has to do is toss them few measly dollars once in a while.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 07:19:00 PM »
This makes women responsible for abortion.

Yes, if they have the choice and choose to take that option without consulting the father.

However, they do not bear 100% responsibility for getting pregnant.  That at best is only 50% women's responsibility and sometimes 0%.  So men must be at least 50% responsible for unwanted pregnancy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 04:19:32 PM »
95% percent of the time, it is her fault.
5% of the time you post something that is not this ridiculous.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 07:27:26 PM »
I guess you are right, but he should admit that there are some valid reasons for abortion even in his mind.  Very few abortions, at least according to reports here in Canada, are simply for birth control reasons.  Nonetheless, women need access to safe abortion if for no other reason than it's their prerogative to decide whether or not they want a child.  After all an unwanted child will not likely have a great life.

To listen to some in this thread safe abortion enables slutty behavior.  That has to be the most ridiculously misogynistic concept I have ever heard.

Next thing is they will want to eliminate all forms of contraceptives.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 06:46:45 PM »
The point is clearly that women can just get higher standards or opt for marriage.
Of course women can wait until marriage.  They very often do.  What about the following cases though:

1) A married woman gets pregnant by her husband but then finds out that she has a condition that puts both her and her child at a very high risk of death if she goes full term.

2) A woman get's raped and becomes pregnant but is in no position to be pregnant or support and care for a child.  An example here would be a woman on active duty in the armed forces or otherwise occupied in a life where being pregnant and giving birth are not possible.

3) The child will be born horribly disfigured to the extent they will have no quality of life whatsoever and will not survive, or will require constant medical support to 'live' that is far beyond the woman's ability to pay for.  For example born without a functioning major organ.

We could go on and on but perhaps you could respond to those 3.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 05:43:24 AM »
Tom, I'm convinced it did occur. I'm not accusing you of makin it up.  I'm not arguing that point.  However, it was astonishingly obviously SARCASM!!!!.  It seems you don't know what that means.  Go look it up.  There are 327 Million explanations on the internet.  Many of those must be from Fake Earthers.

Research like Fake Earther's do.

Enjoy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 04:44:55 AM »
Remarks like "That might be a joke" is a fairly low content response. Was I supposed to respond that it might not be, where you again respond that it might be?

I will hold out until you have something legitimate to argue.
Tom, your inability to recognize sarcasm is not my responsibility.  I can't help you with that in any reasonable way here.  The link you posted was as sarcastic as sarcasm can get.  Sorry you don't get it. Don't pout, try again.

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