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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 28, 2021, 09:01:45 PM »
Actually ballot harvesting is illegal in many areas.

Sometimes. But if it is then who cares? As long as they're citizens of voting age then I don't see a problem.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:54:19 PM »
One big factor that I don't think we know yet is exactly how Lethal Omicron is. If it's substantially less deadly then it could almost be a good thing. Like cowpox running rampant through a smallpox outbreak.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:49:59 PM »
Are we sure he wasn't being sarcastic? It sounds like something the onion would write?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 08:55:08 PM »
I doubt that Jill was embarrassed by Joe's response so much as she was by the guy saying the dumb phrase to begin with, but there's really no way to say for sure. In related news, Jared Schmeck is now making his tentative first steps towards a right-wing media/MAGA career:

https://www.rawstory.com/jared-schmeck-stolen-election/

Depending on how he plays this, we may see him at CPAC in the coming months and years, or maybe even in Congress. Because these are the kind of people that the GOP promotes nowadays.

Yep.  If Trump isn't running then I think we're looking at a Rittenhouse/Schmeck 2024 ticket.

They'll be running on very important policies.  Like... umm... I don't know.  Crank calls and defending dumpsters.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 02:16:07 AM »
Conservatives are unusually triggered over this. Even the guy who made this dumb remark to Biden is trying to pull it back. I think Biden made the best possible response to make them look like asses.
Maybe you should call Joe, tell him to divorce his dumb ass wife, marry him, and when he pulls another response like this from his ass (you know, perhaps when he is participating in another press conference he isn't supposed to be having), you will be sitting right beside him, smiling gleefully at his impromptu response, instead of hanging your head in shame and embarrassment like that idiot Jill.

It's just that there seems to be a lot of people who are reacting very emotionally that Biden just sort of brushed this off.

I'm not invested in any sort of goal of "owning" a particular group.  There's a lot of legitimate criticism that can be leveled at Biden but instead of doing any of that he just repeated some juvenile chant that imbeciles like to chant at NASCAR. 

I think this Jared Schmeck was expecting Biden to have a strong reaction over it and when he more or less ignored it then it just made Jared embarrassed.  And I think a lot of conservatives are feeling that embarrassment too.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 12:22:06 AM »
Conservatives are unusually triggered over this. Even the guy who made this dumb remark to Biden is trying to pull it back. I think Biden made the best possible response to make them look like asses.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 24, 2021, 08:02:03 PM »
CNN: Trump touts effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccine.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/23/politics/trump-vaccine-covid-effectiveness/index.html

There.

Your orange God tells you to get the damn vaccine. Are we done here Tom?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 23, 2021, 07:37:49 PM »
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/587073-trump-admits-he-suddenly-finds-it-very-tough-to

Then there's this. Exactly how unloved was trump as a child? Maybe if his dad gave him one hug in his entire life then us history would have unfolded differently.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 21, 2021, 10:55:48 PM »
Don't worry. When the GOP takes the house next year and appoints mtg as the speaker then there'll be wall to wall impeachments for the next 2 years.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: December 13, 2021, 04:00:13 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 09, 2021, 07:28:58 PM »
The house will most likely not pass this.  At least not by any veto proof majority.  It's just interesting that two Democrats defected in the senate.

I don't like seeing people die even if they're on a different political party.  I have a lot of family members and coworkers who are republican. 

Then again Darwin is a son of a bitch sometimes and there's only so much we can do to keep these people from earning their Herman Cain Award.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: December 07, 2021, 12:56:52 AM »
A distinction without a difference.

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And before the conservatard snowflakes start whining about the 2nd Amendment, The 2nd Amendment says nothing about individual gun rights. The citizens have a right to bear arms in the form of a well regulated militia as a balance of power against the Feds. It doesn't mean some punk gets to wander the streets at night with a rifle.
I'm not sure that quite aligns with the actual state of the law. Perhaps you could point towards some precedent of the 2nd Amendment being interpreted this way by US courts?

This is known.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002107670/historian-uncovers-the-racist-roots-of-the-2nd-amendment
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment/Origins-and-historical-antecedents

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On the crafting of the Second Amendment at the Constitutional Convention

It was in response to the concerns coming out of the Virginia ratification convention for the Constitution, led by Patrick Henry and George Mason, that a militia that was controlled solely by the federal government would not be there to protect the slave owners from an enslaved uprising. And ... James Madison crafted that language in order to mollify the concerns coming out of Virginia and the anti-Federalists, that they would still have full control over their state militias — and those militias were used in order to quell slave revolts. ... The Second Amendment really provided the cover, the assurances that Patrick Henry and George Mason needed, that the militias would not be controlled by the federal government, but that they would be controlled by the states and at the beck and call of the states to be able to put down these uprisings.

The interpretation of the second amendment as some kind of hedge against tyranny is relatively recent.  You can see why.  We really don't want to admit that it's there to put down slave revolts.  So we rebranded its intent.

It's also interesting to note that any time a large group of black people start exercising this right then conservatives start to get very reasonable very quickly regarding gun control.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: November 20, 2021, 09:27:57 AM »
Unless the 2024 democratic ticket is devoid of both Biden and Harris it's likely we're in for another 4 years of the Donald.

There is a virtually 0% chance that Trump wins ever again.

This sounds reassuring but I must disagree.  I can easily see a lot of scenarios where Trump would win again.

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That's another weird thing about this trial.  It's apparently not a pass or fail on the charges.  It's kind of a sliding scale.  They could find him guilty of murder.  They could also find him guilty of j walking during self defense and everything in between.

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The interesting thing about that third guy.  Rittenhouse probably has a good self defense argument there.  But suppose the other guy drew quicker.  Then he'd be the one on trial and he also has an equally good claim for self defense.

It just illustrates how insane the whole "good guy with a gun" thing is.  If everyone was armed at this protest then it would have been a bloodbath.

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Exactly. It unfairly prejudices the jury. His history in this case, has nothing to do with the events under investigation.

But his history does have everything to do with this case. Are you even reading my posts? The point of the case is to show that he was a violent aggressor and Rittenhouse had to defend himself. That the man has a history of violence is obviously relevant. His violent personality got him killed (deservedly).

And here we see the exact reason why a prior conviction would not be allowed to be introduced in a trial.

It's not a good reason.

Are you saying it's okay for civilians to kill people if they've done sufficiently bad things in their past?

Do you disagree with the idea of the state's monopoly on violence?

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I’m not 100% sure, but I thought I read that the dead guy’s prior convictions could not be introduced in the trial. There was a motion from the defense to do so but I think it was denied.

Precisely because they knew it'd affect the jury's opinion of him. If I were on the jury and I knew he'd killed a child rapist, I'd vote not guilty, whether it were self-defense or not.


And here we see the exact reason why a prior conviction would not be allowed to be introduced in a trial.

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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-wisconsin-so-vigilantism-n1283383

I'll admit that the Kyle Rittenhouse case makes me uncomfortable, largely because based on the video evidence I don't see how the actual violence that took place couldn't be considered self-defense. On the other hand, he was specifically and expressly going to the event to act as a vigilante. His intent in that regard is quite clear. And that action directly led to the deaths of three people. Is it really just if he gets off scot free?

I still think the real villains are the cops who chatted up an apparent minor carrying around a deadly weapon without questioning it. The fact that they welcomed his presence and the presence of others acting as vigilantes is troubling and should be considered negligent.

I understand that.  It has parallels to the Derek Chauvin case.  A lot of people were outraged at the verdict because they really liked cops.

I'm not uncomfortable with the likely outcome though.  I'm actually really glad that in situations of life and death our system of justice actually appeared to work like it should.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/580967-judge-admonishes-prosecutor-in-rittenhouse-trial

It’s like they sought out the most incompetent prosecutor possible lol

I don't know.  The lawyers in a trial have a job to do.  They've got to work with what they have.  If they have basically nothing then they end up doing some rather embarrassing things.

It's like the Derek Chauvin trial where the defense tried to make the case that George Floyd could have died from carbon monoxide poisoning from the cop car in an outside environment where no one can say if that car was even running at the time.

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