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Re: Trump
« Reply #4680 on: January 05, 2020, 06:22:44 PM »
Welp, Iraq just voted to remove all US troops from the country. 

Trump is also sending MORE troops to the Middle East.

We be gearing up for War, y'all.  And it will not be pretty.
You're on your own. We have a Brexit thing to do and The Queen has a birthday this year and ... good luck.

We are out too. We have pipelines to dismantle and a really important hockey game today.

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« Reply #4681 on: January 05, 2020, 06:51:44 PM »
I think you are too smart to engage in silly false dilemmas like that. There is a world of diplomacy that can happen before assassination.

You mean like when Obama tried to bribe Iran will billions of dollars and they proceeded to chant "Death to America" anyway? Appeasement is a trap and always will be. You cannot appease Iran into ceasing their behavior.

Again, I know you are better than this. These aren’t mutually exclusive ideas. Isn’t war an escalation?

Again, you try to shift the topic back to escalation. If who started it is irrelevant to the point that you don't want to discuss it, then why did you bring it up in the first place?

So a protest with rocks and tear gas but no serious injuries or fatalities should be responded to by killing the one organizing it?

I guess that makes sense.  When someone is protesting against you strongly, kill the leader.   
Trump should probably kill all those liberals organizing protests against him too.  You know, just because they are attacking him, and He Is America.


Attacking an embassy does serious damage to US operations in the country, regardless of how many people were killed. Further, the militia Suleimani was aiding had killed US civilians in December, but I know you have a very short memory and an outright inability to search for information on the internet, so I'll forgive you for not knowing that.

No, Trump shouldn't kill all liberals. But, Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters. The ideology of socialism is the most dangerous enemy America has ever faced and it continues to harangue us at every step. It only takes a decade of completely insane socialist policies to utterly collapse a nation.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4682 on: January 05, 2020, 10:17:12 PM »
Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters.

This is what trump supporters actually believe.

imagine unironically being this scared

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4683 on: January 05, 2020, 10:25:19 PM »
Rushy: I’m so happy Trump isn’t a war monger
Also Rushy: I wish Trump would violently eliminate all my ideological enemies.

What a terrifying mentality.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4684 on: January 05, 2020, 11:23:52 PM »
Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters.

This is what trump supporters actually believe.

Trump supporters also believed that there really were enough burgers to make a stack a mile high, and that Conan the dog actually received the Medal of Honor and that Trump really has the body of Rocky Balboa. Good thing we have Junker types in the MSM to fact check for them.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4685 on: January 05, 2020, 11:57:01 PM »
Trump supporters also believed that there really were enough burgers to make a stack a mile high, and that Conan the dog actually received the Medal of Honor and that Trump really has the body of Rocky Balboa. Good thing we have Junker types in the MSM to fact check for them.

Keep up the good work!

why are trumpers such scared, fragile snowflakes?

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4686 on: January 06, 2020, 12:24:46 AM »
We're all on the same page right? We all know Trump is going to win the 2020 election and that despite this not being the most wonderful thing that ever happened, we do all acknowledge it is better than a Bernie Sanders socialist dystopia or a Joe Biden Alzheimer's awareness presidency?

And we all know that Trump is going to win by even more than last time, right?

And that there will be even more tears than last time?

And that the world will keep on turning and it won't effect most people's lives one jot.

And this is mostly just entertainment like The Apprentice, where this reality show has reaction from broken libtards screaming 'not my President' and an actual vote instead of a phone vote, but its the same thing. A long running sitcom now in its 45th series that jumped the shark many moons ago.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4687 on: January 06, 2020, 12:42:56 AM »
Breadcrumb did not offer any evidence of Obstruction of Congress.

You want to know why?

Because breadcrumb has no such evidence.

Keep nonsense like this in AR and CN. You have been on the edge of a permanent ban for quite a while, but warnings expire as you stop posting for a bit. So, have a 30 day timeout to decide if you want to keep posting here.

fyi TL i have removed your 30 day ban. since a forum mod is advocating mass murder in this thread it is silly to pretend like it is a serious topic

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4688 on: January 06, 2020, 12:58:48 AM »
We're all on the same page right? We all know Trump is going to win the 2020 election and that despite this not being the most wonderful thing that ever happened, we do all acknowledge it is better than a Bernie Sanders socialist dystopia or a Joe Biden Alzheimer's awareness presidency?

And we all know that Trump is going to win by even more than last time, right?

And that there will be even more tears than last time?

And that the world will keep on turning and it won't effect most people's lives one jot.

And this is mostly just entertainment like The Apprentice, where this reality show has reaction from broken libtards screaming 'not my President' and an actual vote instead of a phone vote, but its the same thing. A long running sitcom now in its 45th series that jumped the shark many moons ago.

Not necessarily.  If there's a recession or a war then Trump will get blamed and probably lose.  If neither happens then the electoral college is so heavily gerrymandered that he'll probably win the presidency with an even bigger popular vote loss.

A third money fire in the middle east actually would alter people's lives by quite a bit.

Alzheimer's awareness presidency, okay that's pretty funny.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4689 on: January 06, 2020, 06:29:19 AM »

So a protest with rocks and tear gas but no serious injuries or fatalities should be responded to by killing the one organizing it?

I guess that makes sense.  When someone is protesting against you strongly, kill the leader.   
Trump should probably kill all those liberals organizing protests against him too.  You know, just because they are attacking him, and He Is America.


Attacking an embassy does serious damage to US operations in the country, regardless of how many people were killed. Further, the militia Suleimani was aiding had killed US civilians in December, but I know you have a very short memory and an outright inability to search for information on the internet, so I'll forgive you for not knowing that.
Honestly, deaths on US military bases are so common in Iraq that it hardly registers as news these days.  So thank you for excusing me for not following American news as closely as you.
(Though not sure how one looks up information one wasn't looking for but whatever)
Also, remember: not only were more Iraqis killed but lets be realistic: America is still a hostile, foreign force in Iraq. We may be invited by the government we setup but at the end of the day, still foreign troops on their land.  Just imagine if we had several Iraqi military bases scattered throughout Texas.  Think they'd be happy and welcoming?

And if we want to retaliate, wouldn't having our proxy assets attack an Iranian Embassy do the job? 

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No, Trump shouldn't kill all liberals. But, Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters. The ideology of socialism is the most dangerous enemy America has ever faced and it continues to harangue us at every step. It only takes a decade of completely insane socialist policies to utterly collapse a nation.
I'm so glad you're able to research on the internet the difference between social welfare and, what I assume you mean is communism or some extreme version of socialism.  It makes your post so well informed.

Serious question: does trolling get you all excited or something?  Is it a fetish for you?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4690 on: January 06, 2020, 08:24:28 AM »
You're on your own. We have a Brexit thing to do
But Brexit is ready. Slam it in the microwave. You guys have plenty of spare time to get involved in America's proxy wars.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4691 on: January 06, 2020, 11:07:57 AM »
And that the world will keep on turning and it won't effect most people's lives one jot.

I think what you mean is it won't affect you. And, you know what, it hasn't really affected me either.
But that doesn't mean it won't affect a lot of people and is, in general, a bad thing.
He's the poster boy for Dunning-Kruger, he thinks he understands things a lot better than he actually does and that is potentially dangerous when he has the power to make policies which affect people.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4692 on: January 06, 2020, 11:52:48 AM »
Breadcrumb did not offer any evidence of Obstruction of Congress.

You want to know why?

Because breadcrumb has no such evidence.

Keep nonsense like this in AR and CN. You have been on the edge of a permanent ban for quite a while, but warnings expire as you stop posting for a bit. So, have a 30 day timeout to decide if you want to keep posting here.

fyi TL i have removed your 30 day ban. since a forum mod is advocating mass murder in this thread it is silly to pretend like it is a serious topic
Thank you junker.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4693 on: January 06, 2020, 12:18:29 PM »
Not necessarily.  If there's a recession or a war then Trump will get blamed and probably lose.  If neither happens then the electoral college is so heavily gerrymandered that he'll probably win the presidency with an even bigger popular vote loss.
Even if a recession happened tomorrow, the affects wouldn't be felt by the public until after the election now. Trump has got the economy over the line. There was no crash on his watch. The public usually only hear of a recession after it has finished.

A third money fire in the middle east actually would alter people's lives by quite a bit.
Trump would spin it. How many US jobs rely on the industrial military complex? Then there is patriotism and supporting the troops. Some flag waving. Show of American power. Defender against Islam. I don't think a money fire in the Middle East would sink Trump. I think quite the opposite. Boris Johnson on the other hand, would likely lose his job over it.

But Brexit is ready. Slam it in the microwave. You guys have plenty of spare time to get involved in America's proxy wars.
I like to look through the window and watch the food go around.

We don't really want an Iran war right now. The US would use a future trade deal as a way to force us to join in, to give their effort some kind of international credibility and tone down the imperial aspect, making it more like international policing rather than an oil grab. We need to finish our Brexit, not be relying on future trade deals and in a position to say "looks expensive, maybe next time".

I think what you mean is it won't affect you. And, you know what, it hasn't really affected me either.
It doesn't actually affect most people. And yet they act like the world is ending.

But that doesn't mean it won't affect a lot of people and is, in general, a bad thing.
He's the poster boy for Dunning-Kruger, he thinks he understands things a lot better than he actually does and that is potentially dangerous when he has the power to make policies which affect people.
This just sounds like envy. You realise he has an entire civil service and judiciary making decisions for the nation all day every day? Like 99.9999% of the decisions. He's not making any decisions at all. I doubt he even chooses what he gets served for breakfast. He has a bunch of strategists and military experts that tell him "we should do a drone strike, these are the reasons why, here is a script you need to read on TV, be prepared to answer these questions like this". Trump is America's spokesperson. Like Tony the Tiger or the Michelin man. A face for the nation. That's it. The USA doesn't abdicate all power to him and get him making all the decisions. That would be madness. Lawyers, technocrats, judges, civil servants and military personnel make the decisions. And you can't vote them out. And that's why no matter who you vote for ... you keep having endless wars in the middle east.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4694 on: January 06, 2020, 12:45:49 PM »
why are trumpers such scared, fragile snowflakes?
Because it is the "in thing," to be.

More context...

Russian interference in the 2016 election?

Total BS...Assange clearly stated his source wasn't the Russians.

Deep State lies...

FISA court abuse very clear, this type of stuff ushered in back in the days of Czar Bush the I...evidently his thousands points of light were representative of flashlights being held by agents unconcerned about the Bill of Rights.

But yeah, being a snowflake is totally in.

So, please love us.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4695 on: January 06, 2020, 01:07:16 PM »
Prediction...

There will be no 2020 general election in the US...

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4696 on: January 06, 2020, 01:41:52 PM »
Trump is America's spokesperson. Like Tony the Tiger or the Michelin man. A face for the nation. That's it.

Bullshit.
And proof it's bullshit is that Trump has spent the last few years either undoing or trying to undo a lot of what Obama did.
Was Obama simply America's spokesperson?
If so then why is the whole machine underneath Trump now doing completely the opposite of what it did under Obama?
I'm simplifying somewhat but withdrawing from the Paris agreement, the billions set aside to "build a wall", repealing "Obamacare", these things all come from Trump. Of course he has a whole civil service under him but the president absolutely sets the tone and direction.
Were that not so why would it be so different under Obama and Trump?

And it's not envy, it's just a fact that Trump thinks he is the expert on every subject when the reality is he knows very little.
Most of what he says is demonstrably not true.
And he's in charge of the most powerful country in the world.
Will it affect you and me? Probably not. But it does affect a lot of people. Just because you're not one of them, doesn't make it OK.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4697 on: January 06, 2020, 03:56:28 PM »
Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters.

This is what trump supporters actually believe.

imagine unironically being this scared

Correct. It's why Bernie will die before the election.

Rushy: I’m so happy Trump isn’t a war monger
Also Rushy: I wish Trump would violently eliminate all my ideological enemies.

What a terrifying mentality.

Violence is at the core of both the status quo and revolution. There's no such thing as the continuation of a regime without violence. Evolution itself is a violent phenomenon and humanity as an output of evolution is championed only by the nature of being able to output more violence than any other species on Earth.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4698 on: January 06, 2020, 06:13:36 PM »
And proof it's bullshit is that Trump has spent the last few days either undoing or trying to undo a lot of what Obama did.

The Republican Administration is undoing things done by the Democrats? Colour me surprised. But its not Trump. He's not a divine right ruler. He's the front man. The lead singer of your band. He's not the guy writing the lyrics and signing record deals.

If so then why is the whole machine underneath Trump now doing completely the opposite of what it did under Obama?
I'm simplifying somewhat but withdrawing from the Paris agreement, the billions set aside to "build a wall", repealing "Obamacare", these things all come from Trump. Of course he has a whole civil service under him but the president absolutely sets the tone and direction.
Were that not so why would it be so different under Obama and Trump?
98% of everything is decided by the deep state. Neither party can ditch the dollar or decide to embark on nuclear disarmament. Its not on the table. Of the 2% that parties can squabble about, the shit the state doesn't care about like if poor people get health care, the parties ... not president will make changes.

And it's not envy, it's just a fact that Trump thinks he is the expert on every subject when the reality is he knows very little.
Most of what he says is demonstrably not true.
And he's in charge of the most powerful country in the world.
Will it affect you and me? Probably not. But it does affect a lot of people. Just because you're not one of them, doesn't make it OK.
Orange man bad. Yeah sure. You need to deal with not getting the thing you wanted. I don't know if it is only child syndrome or everyone gets a medal culture ... but you need to learn to take defeat with humility.

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IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4699 on: January 06, 2020, 08:15:30 PM »
Trump should kill Bernie and all of his supporters.

This is what trump supporters actually believe.

imagine unironically being this scared

Correct. It's why Bernie will die before the election.

Rushy: I’m so happy Trump isn’t a war monger
Also Rushy: I wish Trump would violently eliminate all my ideological enemies.

What a terrifying mentality.

Violence is at the core of both the status quo and revolution. There's no such thing as the continuation of a regime without violence. Evolution itself is a violent phenomenon and humanity as an output of evolution is championed only by the nature of being able to output more violence than any other species on Earth.

Yeah this is also a terrifying mentality. Just because violence has been a tool in the past doesn’t mean we shouldn’t prefer nonviolence.