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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Self Driving Car
« on: May 29, 2014, 02:49:23 AM »
Because they have to pay for the energy the robots use.
They have to pay for the labor in building the robots.
They have to pay for maintaining the robots.

They want money.
No, if robots do everything, there is no labour. There is nothing to pay for.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Self Driving Car
« on: May 29, 2014, 12:55:26 AM »
But the people who own the machines will demand money for the product. 
Therefore, the access to resources would not exist for those who do not work.
Why would they demand money if work doesn't exist?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 29, 2014, 12:11:08 AM »
Actually, I'm more concerned about being even more in China's pocket seeing as they have virtually monopolised the market in Uranium from Australia and Africa. I'm hardly worried about nuclear safety, I visited Chernobyl on holiday last year.
You're not Greens (I think). You're just a guy who voted for them despite disagreeing with their policies on energy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Self Driving Car
« on: May 29, 2014, 12:05:25 AM »
We don't need technology that replaces people.
If machines replace people in most areas of work, we will no longer need to do work while still having access to the same resources. Yeah, better steer clear of that. Also, vote UKIP.

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Technology & Information / Re: Apple and viruses
« on: May 28, 2014, 08:40:55 AM »
If scientologists are cultists, then so are atheists.
Which many strongly religious people will be happy to confirm. The cult of science, and all that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 28, 2014, 03:03:56 AM »
Quite true.  People are way too paranoid about nuclear power and its dangers these days.  See the hysterical overreaction to the Fukushima incident for a classic example.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:08:15 PM »
Nuclear power is, at best, a stop-gap measure while we transition away from fossils and towards sustainable power generation.
Nuclear power is a perfectly good means of power generation that's sustainable for all intents and purposes. People like the Greens are afraid of it because they think we will literally Chernobyl the entire country, calling the risk "unacceptable" and entirely ignoring the scientific advances of the past 3 decades. Honestly, even UKIP are better in that regard.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Transgenderism
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:01:33 PM »
It isn't your body they're modifying - what's the problem?
I don't think "problem" is the right word. I might think that some of people's actions are fundamentally misguided without having any issue with them doing it in principle. It doesn't even have to be anything big - I feel like that about smoking. I think smoking is complete nonsense, but if you want to do it, meh, fine. As you say, it's their lives and their decisions.

Nonetheless, while I wouldn't actively stand in anyone's way to transitioning, I do wonder about the reasoning (both logical and emotional, if that even makes sense) and justification behind it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 27, 2014, 06:05:11 PM »
Erm, I love food security. That's why I don't want individual companies owning the rights to food!
So campaign against patenting GMOs. There's no need to starve the world just because you're upset that someone might make too much money off of it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 27, 2014, 06:01:46 PM »
I hate food security, vote UKIP >o<
Oh Thork, how I value your troll character.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Transgenderism
« on: May 27, 2014, 06:00:41 PM »
We are referring to humans on a continuum of an abstract concept called 'gender.' What it means to be a 'woman' or a 'man' or a 'eunuch' have changed radically over history - there have been female kings and male queens, 'two spirit' people who didn't fit into their society's division of male and female, stories of women as men to go to war.
Historically, perhaps, but nowadays it's pretty clear cut. Most people talk about sex, not gender.

But let's take one subgroup who might be asked to be referred to as inhumans - furries. If we took a furry seriously in their choice of animalit would put responsibilities on us to treat them as such (a wolf, for instance, would be captured and either kept in captivity or released into protected areas - or shot.) as treating them as their animal personalities would mean excemption from human justice (if we treated a wolf furry as a wolf and they killed, would we put them down like we would to physiological wolves?) Treating a furry seriously places unnecessary duties and responibilities on society which doesn't apply to treating a trans* woman as a female.
I don't see why. Society doesn't magically change their expectations of you just because you go trans (except, of course, for the presence of transphobes), why would it magically change when you declare yourself to be an ironing board? As you said, it's just about names and titles.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 27, 2014, 05:51:23 PM »
Nuclear power is the future >o<

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 27, 2014, 01:47:16 PM »
I voted Green.
Why do you hate scientific progress? >o<

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Transgenderism
« on: May 27, 2014, 01:46:12 PM »
Apples and oranges. If people are asking to be called 'your royal highness' that's very different to 'sir' or 'madam' or 'him' and 'her.'
Major devil's advocate warning, but: What if I wanted to be referred to as something that's not human? Like a wolf, or some disembodied abstract concept?

You say (or at least imply) that titles of dominance wouldn't be ok, so it seems to me like there's a line to be drawn. Where would you draw the line?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting
« on: May 26, 2014, 08:08:27 PM »
From what I've gathered from several news articles, he was already under care of therapists for some other conditions (some specify Asperger's Syndrome, but many seem to omit this for some reason). His parents then became aware of the fact that he's been posting videos that most people would find at least alarming, e.g.:



So they notified both his therapists and the authorities, but after a chat with him they figured out everything is A-OK.

I mean, fine, he doesn't sound like he's about to go on a killing spree, but it sure as hell looks like he needed an intervention. It's probably not as clear-cut as "lol they didn't give him enough attention", but it really does seem like it could be prevented.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting
« on: May 26, 2014, 05:00:47 PM »
That is unfortunate. But you can't force an adult to get help until it's too late. Maybe it was more obvious to the parents because the people who came to check on him said he seemed fine. They could have spent more time looking into it but then you'd have a tough time convincing people to spend the resources.
Yeah, it's not an easy situation. It just sucks that this all could have probably been prevented. Especially given that his parents are loaded.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting
« on: May 26, 2014, 04:19:44 PM »
How can you get someone help when they're not unstable?
Everyone knew he was unstable. His parents saw the videos he's been uploading and sought help, but the issue was quickly dismissed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting
« on: May 26, 2014, 02:18:17 PM »
No true scotsman. If you kill lots of people then you're mentally ill. The act of killing lots of people makes you so.
Yeah, it was in response to hordes of people saying that he wasn't mentally ill. I don't think he was trying to make a breakthrough of any sort (he's fucking Maddox), he was just stating the obvious.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: European polls
« on: May 26, 2014, 07:49:25 AM »
If they don't accomplish anything isn't that technically mission success?
From my point of view, yes. Probably not from theirs.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting
« on: May 26, 2014, 07:48:45 AM »
Quote from: Maddox
100% of gun massacres occur by people with mental illness. If you disagree with that statement, be prepared to make the case that there are some rational, cool-headed people who, after thinking clearly and weighing the pros and cons, decide to commit mass killings. There aren't. Rather than focusing our efforts on demonizing society, guns, gender or family, we should focus our efforts on getting people with mental illness the help they need. The fact that there's stigma associated with receiving mental health care is a problem. If you know someone in need, reach out and try to get them help. Trying to rationalize an irrational act is futile. Rational people don't go on shooting rampages.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152444077178291&id=17359118290

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