Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2014, 03:17:04 PM »
markjo, electromagnetism does not affect light, in case you did not know.

Light--The visible portion of the EM spectrum. 

So do you now think light can be effected by electromagnetism?

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2014, 03:19:11 PM »
I have a rare earth magnet.  It is very strong.  And, guess what, it does not alter the light that passes near it.  I wonder why?

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2014, 03:41:36 PM »
I have a rare earth magnet.  It is very strong.  And, guess what, it does not alter the light that passes near it.  I wonder why?

That is a static magnetic field.  No one is claiming that static magnetic fields affect light.  A static magnetic field is not the same thing as EM radiation.

Light is Electromagnetic Radiation, and Electromagnetic Radiation is light. The word "radiation" is the clue here.  It includes the entire EM spectrum, including radio and x-rays and gamma rays.   It doesn't have to be visible to be light.   I refer you to Maxwell's equations.

However, your magnet is made of matter and is warmer than absolute zero, so it will also emit some EM radiation far into the infrared.  The magnet emits EM Radiation not because it's a magnet, it's because it's made of matter, and matter is energy, energy produces light, and for the last time, light is EM radiation.  They're the same thing. 

The Electromagnet Accelerator is so named because it affects Electromagnetic Radiation.  AKA: light.

I don't understand what is so difficult about this.

Now, unless you're ready to stop trying to compare your refrigerator magnets with EM radiation, I'm finished with this fruitless conversation.  There's little point in continuing the discussion if you don't understand even the most basic concepts of light.
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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2014, 03:53:21 PM »

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2014, 03:56:37 PM »
BillyBob may be right:

http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=2009

Et tu, Rama?  No one said that magnetic fields bend light?  That's not what the term Electromagnetic Accelerator means.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2014, 04:00:19 PM »
Bah!  I thought BillyBob was talking about light bending. Apologies.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2014, 04:12:00 PM »
I am.  The bendy light people are nuts. 

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2014, 04:14:33 PM »
I don't think that the bending in EA is caused by EM radiation. Rather the bending is due to "Dark Energy" whatever that may be.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2014, 04:16:29 PM »
lol, light bending is not only wrong, it is made up to make a flat earth seem real. 

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2014, 04:21:18 PM »
I don't think that the bending in EA is caused by EM radiation. Rather the bending is due to "Dark Energy" whatever that may be.

This is true.  Light IS EM radiation.  The Electromagnetic Accelerator is an Accelerator of Electromagnetic Radiation.  Dark Energy's a perfectly acceptable term for it as well.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2014, 04:25:56 PM »
Light--The visible portion of the EM spectrum.
How is that relevant?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2014, 04:41:19 PM »
How are you relevant? 

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2014, 07:15:53 PM »
How are you relevant?

Try not to get yourself banned, the upper fora is finally getting interesting again.
That's how far the horizon is, not how far you can see.

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Re: Electromagnetic Accelerator
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2014, 01:31:12 AM »
How are you relevant?
If you are unable to answer a very simple question related to the debate, perhaps you should choose a different topic?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.