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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 08, 2018, 02:30:36 AM »

How is there supposed to be a debate if there is nothing to prove wrong?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 07, 2018, 10:40:02 PM »

I think we can forget about the 2 poles map, since you can test that from playing any multiplayer games having a japanese server (exemple given is server in japan and console in usa), the latency between your console/pc and the server isnt high enough to be travelling from usa to japan from the east only, it has to go through the pacific or the latency (the time it takes for your info to get from point a to point b) would be significantly higher, also the 6 months of day followed by 6 month of night in pole north (and south btw but lets scrap it for the sake of the AE/Gleason model) wouldn't be respected.

But back to my question, is the AE/Gleason model really the official one? Is there an official model? Because if there are NO official model, I will work on the AE/Gleason model to find a proof that the earth is not flat (yeah this is my position) that you can test by yourself, which doesn't need a lot of instrument and that will not be able to be treated as "fake".

The thing is, it is difficult for me to work on model that isn't even accepted by it's community...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 07, 2018, 02:30:49 PM »

First off, before we entertain this further, why should we assume that this Flat Earth Monopole model that our society rejected over 100 years ago in favor of a Bi-Polar model, is true?

Where is your evidence for this Flat Earth model you are proposing?

This is exactly my point... Don't you guys have a working model? Since every model I saw are wrong on a certain point how can you be so sure the earth is flat??? I looked for a flat earth model and this one is the one you guys usually use to show the earth is flat... Is it really an improper model? And of so which one is really working?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 07, 2018, 03:38:09 AM »

Really? No one can come up to my question with a functionnal flat earth model?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 03, 2018, 08:30:23 PM »

You are missing the fact that the sun travels North-South over the course of the year.

Actually I am not missing that, both videos I have showed you are fast-forward of more or less 30 minutes of a sunset. The trajectory of season change should in no mean be visible at such a small time span. If it was really going that far to the south in like 30 min, it would be the equivalent of changing from summer to winter in 30 minutes... I do not think it was the case here. Also if it really happenned to go that far to the south, the sun would show much later than usual in the other countries. I'll try to make some pictures as soon as I get on my PC.

Thank you for your answer sir.

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Wiki entry for Universal Acceleration

« on: June 03, 2018, 02:17:04 AM »

whoever wrote that wiki article has a very poor understanding of physics, including einstein's general relativity and  special relativity.

one thing the do have correct in that UA article is that if a "flat" earth was being accellerated at 9.8 m/s2 we would not feel any difference at all.  so that part is correct.  of course UA would not account for the fact that we can measure different accelleration/gravity at different elevations.  this is a fact and easily verified.  if the entire earth was being accelerated, then it would be constant at all elevations.

the other major flaw with UA is their explanation on why we would never reach the speed of light.  first, again correct that an object of mass cannot reach the speed of light (C).  but the reason given is way off.  the issue with accellerating and object with mass is that as you increase velocity the mass increases, and by multiplying its resting mass by the lorenz transformation.  the closer you get to C, the faster this occurs.  An object accellerated to C would have an infinite mass, which obviously isnt possible

The other factor needed to accellerate a mass if force, i.e. F=ma.   as the mass increases you need more force to continue accelleration.  and since the mass is increasing as you get closer to speed to be infinite (as noted above) you would also require an infinite amount of force.  again impossible

You will not have a higher mass with speed, but in fact, will carry more energy. However, the acceleration towards the ground should indeed be equal no matter of your elevation, while on the mt Everest, the acceleration towards the ground is slightly lower than the 9.81 m/s² we have at the sea level. I am still waiting for an answer from flat earthers about this one. Btw, I also want to be answered about that ^^'
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=9856.msg154387

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Flat Earth Theory / Sunset appears differently on the earth, depending of your distance from equator

« on: June 03, 2018, 02:04:18 AM »

So, if this image shows the flat earth and it's sun rotation correctly :

How comes that this sunset from Canada, in the north of the equator, shows the sun going slightly to the north before going under the horrizon :

While this sunset from Sydney in Australia, in the south of the equator, we see the sun going slightly to the south before going under the horrizon :

This would not be possible in the model I showed you before, because no mather where you are on the flat earth, you should see the sun always going slightly to the north because of it's rotation around the north pole.

The only way it would be possible is if the sun was actually turning like this (and it would only work for Australia because it would fuck up every other time zones, daytime, etc for other countries)



(This sun trajectory has been added with love using that beautifull software called paint)

Is there something I am missing about the flat earth model?

(I am sorry for my bad english, I do not speak in english as a first language, but I tried my best, please tell me if anything is unclear and I will try to fix it)