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You mean benefit of society?
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Like the need for people to do drugs outweigh the needs of people to not have to deal with them.
The needs of the few who like to litter outweigh the needs of those who need the land to not be full of trash.
The needs of snowflakes who fear needles outweighs the health of society at large.
I am sure you don't have a goddamn clue what the word society means.

Thanks for reminding me I forgot to include you in the prior list.

Hey! What about me?!   I'm on the list too!

But don't worry. Now I understand your position on vaccines better. Don't let them inject you with that crap. It's full of mercury, microchips, nanites and the blood of Satan. Tell all your conservative friends!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 21, 2021, 09:41:01 PM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/18/nolte-anti-vaxxers-hype-benign-transmission-numbers-as-proof-vax-doesnt-work/


"The organized left is deliberately putting unvaccinated Trump supporters in an impossible position where they can either NOT get a life-saving vaccine or CAN feel like cucks caving to the ugliest, smuggest bullies in the world."


" The left’s morality is guided only by that which furthers their fascist agenda, and so using reverse psychology to trick Trump supporters NOT to get a life-saving vaccine is, to them, a moral good. The more of us who die, the better."


There it is. Tom and Lackey have been fooled by the left's greatest trolling ever.  Breitbart would never print anything that isn't true. All conservatives know that.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 21, 2021, 04:35:49 PM »
The entire US at least.

So if you are a crisis actor, how do we know you aren't lying about being a crisis actor?

His job is to be a crisis actor, stating that there's a crisis regarding too many crisis actors.

Lackie is a government anti-crisis actor. He is being paid tax dollars to hide the true nature of the pandemic.

Just like Trump, he knows what's really going on but he's part of the conspiracy to hide the truth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:53:13 PM »
He's brainwashed.
Feel pity.

I would feel no pity or sympathy at all but this guy is a friend. Otherwise, I would say he got what he deserved and I would troll the living shit out of him.

We can see the right-wing being divided into the manipulators and the manipulated. If you want to know who is who, just look at who's vaccinated and who is unvaccinated while espousing anti-vax propaganda. The Republicans learned a great lesson from Vladimir Putin during the January 6th riots. Ignorant people are a powerful force that can be harnessed.

For me and my team, question is now becoming: do we hire any more anti-vaxxers?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:34:21 PM »
Okay, so after over four weeks, the last sickened anti-vaxxer is returning to work at our  West Coast facility. He was a big strong tough guy but now he's weak and gets winded easily. The brain fog has changed his personality and now he's a veg. The absolute sad fact is that after all of this, he is still reposting anti-vax anti-mask bullshit posted by vaccinated Republicans.

He doesn't care that he consumed almost $100,000 worth of medical resources that we will all have to pay for through insurance premiums.
He doesn't care that everybody else had to bust their ass covering for him while he was unconscious in a hospital.
He doesn't care that his wife and child were hospitalized for the same thing at the same time.

If anyone at work tries to talk to him about getting vaccinated, he starts to say that this is a hostile work environment for people who are not vaccinated.

This man could not breathe and had to go to the hospital where he got worse and remained unconscious while teams of people had to keep him alive. They literally saved his life and now he's still going on about what a sham medical science is and how horse dewormer is a real treatment.

This is a good guy who worked for this company since the beginning. But how am I supposed to feel about all this?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:30:33 AM »
guys just give it up. tom has already proven that everyone in 2020 died of a motorcycle accident. he found a website that says so.

checkmate, atheists.

I know some of people that were in that motorcycle accident. It was pretty fucked up.

It's weird how so many people are having motorcycle accidents.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 04:14:15 PM »
I generally think people should get vaccinated. But some people are acting like those who don't are a serious danger to themselves and everyone around them. I'd agree they are increasing the risk to themselves and others. But enough that they should be denied access to certain venues or certain jobs? I'm not so sure.

If it's my venue or my job I should have the right to say stay the fuck away from us you diseased freak.

It's the same thing conservatives have told homosexuals for years.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 12:08:14 PM »
Lots of quotes and examples here:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-mounts-so-does-the-belief-it-is-exaggerated

Perfect. Tom you are quoting a Fox News article that is over a year old. A hundred thousand people in the US have died since then including two that I know. The reporter that wrote that article along with most of the Fox staff are now vaccinated.

Here's that same reporter a year later:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-number-of-positive-coronavirus-tests-in-new-york-climb-to-highest-since-early-june

You are being played. These people are using you as a mindless minion to attack the left. Covid is just their latest issue like the homosexual agenda or the rise of socialism. And just like a guy I know, you might end up reposting their lies from your hospital bed while the vaccinated Fox news crew goes out to dinner and bitches about liberals.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/11/business/media/vaccines-fox-news-hosts.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-mounts-so-does-the-belief-it-is-exaggerated

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 03:23:27 PM »
I don't know what you are talking about regarding tax law but there are several laws/statutes violated by holding an EUA and FDA approval simultaneously for the same product.

It's all in the lawsuit, check it out! https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/CHD-v.-FDA-Submitted-Complaint-8.31.21.pdf


Children's Health Defense is an American activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine activities and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines.

.... and you think we're the ones being manipulated by the media?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:01:41 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 13, 2021, 06:29:00 PM »
I have a constitutional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I expect the Constitution to protect me from ignorant Hillbillies spreading their viral pathogens and Putin's propaganda throughout the community.

There may be a stand your ground, self-defense angle to it as well. Stay the fuck away from me and my family with your disease or I'll blow your head off.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 13, 2021, 12:50:04 PM »
Dick Farrel, 65, used his local talk show and social media to rail against Dr. Anthony Fauci, who he called a “power tripping lying freak,” and say that no one should get the coronavirus vaccine. “Why take a vax promoted by people who lied 2u all along about masks.”

Phil Valentine A conservative radio host in Tennessee
“Let me tell you how it will be,” he sang, “and I don’t care if you agree, ‘Cause I’m the Vaxman, yeah I’m the Vaxman. If you don’t like me coming round, be thankful I don’t hold you down.”

Marc Bernier, a talk radio host in Daytona Beach for 30 years
He also tweeted that the U.S. government was “acting like Nazi’s” because officials were urging people to get vaccinated.

All dead. Lots of their believers are dead too.


Maybe we should start a thread in the lower forums mocking all the antivaxxer pundits, preachers and talk media blowhards that died from covid while they were mocking the vaccine. It would be a long list.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 11, 2021, 10:25:31 PM »
"Islam = bad"
(1 month later)
"Oh Taliban, which is extreme islam, is good."

Which is pretty much the same thing the Soviet Union said after they got their asses kicked in Afghanistan.

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Technology & Information / Re: I Hate Linux Distros
« on: September 11, 2021, 01:08:48 PM »
I don't use my email to log into windows.  I use a local account.
Cortana is off and I don't get cortana emails into my gmail.
I got the 64 bit free upgrade.  Not sure why you didn't.

I think Microsoft may be fucking with me personally and specifically. There's this shit in the TOS about not using Microsoft products to mess with Microsoft. That's why they want you to have an account they can watch. Years ago, I reposted a Bill Gates meme and ever since, every Windows upgrade and update has screwed me over.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/07/26/censorship-comes-for-the-desktop-how-microsoft-has-infused-values-into-windows-and-office/?sh=11b051207c5b

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Technology & Information / Re: I Hate Linux Distros
« on: September 11, 2021, 12:32:21 PM »
I hate MS Windows! When is this fucked up planet going to get its shit together and move to a Linux platform!

OK... I feel better now.

Every iteration of Windows pisses me off more and more. People who won't show their source code want my email address just to boot up their OS. They make it harder every year to run a Windows machine without a Microsoft account.             F00k dat.

I rip Cortana out of the registry, delete and kill it but it still sends spam to my inbox. I don't need malware emailing me to 'Have a great Thursday!'

Oh! and BTW, that 'free' Windows 10 upgrade is shit! It's a 32 bit version of Windows 10. WTF! What idiot thinks we need or want a 32 bit version of any Windows anymore! And this punk-ass version is still packed with garbageware constipating my system.

In every new version, they take out features I use and add crap I will never use.

Many of the new Linux distros have polished GUIs that will allow even the most tech-illiterate primate to find porn and order crap on Amazon. I would have switched every computer in my life to Linux except that most of the world only speaks 'Windows'. There are so many hardware peripherals I use that won't interact with Linux that I'm stuck with Windows. Microsoft has me by the balls and I hate them for it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 11, 2021, 12:08:38 PM »
I think people should get vaccinated but I’m finding this “two tier society” which is being created unsettling. I don’t think that is part of some “government plot”. People can, after all, choose to get vaccinated. But I don’t like the idea of those who choose not to being treated like second class citizens who can’t get certain jobs or travel or go to certain venues

I think that globally, we are seeing a second tier of nations that don't have access to vaccine resources versus nations that have plenty of vaccine.

In America, this 'tiering' is being promulgated politically. The right wing is driving the anti-vax/anti-mask movement because it helps their cause (holding power.) These Republicans screaming about wearing a mask are all vaccinated, their families are vaccinated and if they get sick, they have access to the finest health care in the country. Do you really think that the governor of Texas would let his children romp and play with a contagious person not wearing a mask. The Republicans know that by creating antivaxxers, they are actually creating 'antiDemocrats.' The Republican sales pitch is that they are protecting our liberties from the terrifying homosexual, liberal, socialists. They don't care about the people they brainwashed ending up in the ICU. These antivaxxers think that the general public is being manipulated by some government/media cabal but the joke's on them.

There is one, straightforward question we all have to ask ourselves.
How bad would a public health crisis have to be before we mandate public measures to curtail its spread?
Whenever I ask an antimasker, a conservative or conspiracy theorist this question, all I ever get is a lot of hot air about personal liberty, the rise of socialism and a lot of bullshit but no answer. I have yet to hear a Republican politician take a stand with a real answer.

I have asked lot of people this question and posted it on forums. The only actual answer I've ever gotten came from Thork, whose benchmark would be a global mortality percentage (millions of dead people.) If a politician is going to ask for my vote, my support, they will answer this straight forward question in a straight forward way or they can go fuck themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 10, 2021, 04:09:11 PM »

LMMFAO.

They can give me the shot of my choice when it comes time.

Some have suggested that those who refuse to get vaccinated should be refused medical treatment for covid.
At first it seemed like a pretty shitty viewpoint to me but now I'm starting to get it.  Why should we waste hospital beds on people like this?




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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 10, 2021, 12:07:05 PM »
ok, so the four anti-vaxxers in our west coast facility all got sick at the same time and crippled their warehouse. It's not a large operation and they have been struggling for the last two weeks to keep the business going while half their shipping crew is out.

Two are still too sick to work, one should be back tomorrow and one is in ICU. His wife and child are in the same hospital on a different floor. The absolute saddest part is that he was in the hospital bed posting anti vax propaganda from his phone right up until he was moved to ICU. Meanwhile, all the right wing media mouth holes that convinced him not to wear a mask, not to get the vaccine are all vaccinated. Their families are all vaccinated. Even King of All Dumbasses, Trump is vaccinated.

In America, many employers offer health insurance as part of compensation. Anyone without health insurance who faces a major medical incident could be in debt the rest of their life. Even with health insurance, you could spend years paying off medical expenses that aren't covered by your policy. When we hire someone who smokes cigarettes, the cost to insure them is much higher. As the cost of insurance is going up, the company has to decide whether to reduce benefits with cheaper policies or make employees pay part of the premium. This guy is consuming thousands of dollars of medical resources a day which is going to impact our already crushing insurance costs. If you think the vaccine is some financial scam, you need to look at how the insurance companies and health care industry have been collaborating to plunder the American economy for decades.

Of course, just like the guy in ICU. The anti vax crowd is going to call me a liar. They will say this family was hospitalized in a motorcycle wreck or they have been hired as 'crisis actors'.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 23, 2021, 01:49:00 PM »
I am anti-narcotics of all sorts and believe that if anyone does use narcotics, minimally they are running the risk of typing stupid shit on the internet, just like you are doing here. Eventually, they will hasten their death.

Dude, I was doing drugs and alcohol decades before you were born. I have typed literally millions of words, in the form of novels, articles and postings. Nothing I've never written compares with the anger, nastiness and idiocy in your posts.

Maybe you need to try some drugs.

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