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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 08, 2021, 06:49:35 PM »

Trump was in no real danger of impeachment or removal. He's endured this level of harsh bipartisan condemnation before. Trump remains enormously popular among Republican voters, and as long as he does, Republican legislators won't dare touch him. Criticism is one thing; removing him from office is another.

He very could be impeached again. All that means is "indicted". It will only happen if the House has the intestinal fortitude to do so and the thinking that it's the right political blot on him going forward. Convicted is a whole other thing. However, it would be sort of remarkable if he did get impeached, making him the only President to have been twice. An interesting bit for the historical record.

Impeachable, sure... but Trump managed to stop short of saying anything that could realistically get him convicted, imo (I have very little basis to make that judgement though, and I'd be incredibly entertained if I'm wrong!)

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Question about the stars.

« on: January 08, 2021, 02:46:32 PM »

You guys really need to figure out the quote function.... this thread is a mess

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.

« on: January 08, 2021, 02:45:37 PM »

I see the potential, but I am way to chicken shit with money to buy into it

Put in a small amount and forget about it. Either you've lost like a hundred bucks or you'll become the next Jeff Bezos in 10 years.

It's foolproof!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 08, 2021, 02:47:32 AM »

Trump made the same vague statement about 'a transition' in his last video without specifying Biden by name. Again, he makes the same comment here.

In fact, it's a rather well known play of words with a dramatic pause in the middle that they have been using to respond to reporters asking about the transition.

Good luck with Trump's second term.

Donnie is slowly walking back his statements and losing confidence it seems...though admittedly, hes definitely still unable to name Biden, the "worst candidate in the history of the country".

From today's message:

"Now, Congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation." - DJT

The closest hes been to presidential in 4 years, maybe? Will it save him from a rapid impeachment process and/or Pence taking over through the 25th?

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.

« on: January 08, 2021, 02:05:50 AM »

I see the potential, but I am way to chicken shit with money to buy into it

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 08, 2021, 02:04:23 AM »

I hope when hes impeached or they invoke the 25th, someone says "you're fired" on record.

That video address was infinitely better than yesterday's, but still a pathetic display of leadership. Wtf is he trying to do with that last line?


The conspiracy theorist in me thinks this was all done to force an increased level of security and police/military presence for inauguration day photo ops so that the right can frame "Biden's America" as a police state where the Gov is gonna come and tax your family, steal your guns, and so on

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 09:49:28 PM »

Even Trump inciting sedition couldn't stop him from losing.  Incredible.

I’ve never been a big fan of the idea of systemic racism, but seeing this mostly white mob get away with this and then comparing it to the BLM riots is making it very difficult to deny.

I didn't see any of them throwing molotov cocktails, burning down random buildings, or looting Foot Locker for some fresh Jordans because muh oppression.

Just planting pipe bombs, right?  So because another group did something bad it's totally ok for Magahats to storm the Capitol Building?

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Yes, it’s so awful. They basically took a tour of a public building and broke a few things. What an evil, horrible act.

2 pipe bombs, smashed windows, looting, 50 injured police officers, several still in hospital.

Quite the tour!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 06:17:25 PM »

No one is disputing the D.C. Mayor's political affiliations or position with respect to the Washington Metro Police.

The US Capitol Police have jurisdiction on the capitol grounds. They told metro police they weren't needed. They did not call in federal forces that were available like National Guard or Homeland Security.

Their response to a known event with highly predictable outcome was embarrassing, and insulting to the thousands of previous peaceful demonstrators that have been met with the full force of riot-ready police in the past.

The response was an utter failure of USCP leadership, and the blame for yesterday's events falls in large part on 'Republican' shoulders.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 04:55:33 PM »

This video highlights the utter failure of Capitol Police.  The difference between the Law Enforcement presence and response at this event vs the BLM protest on June 1st is startling.

I would suggest that the police on duty at the time did about as much as could be expected. The utter failure is at higher levels in what can only be interpreted as an intentional unwillingness to provide enough police presence to make a difference.

The difference in presence at the start of the mess yesterday compared to peaceful BLM protests, anti-war protests in 2007, people with disabilities protesting for better healthcare (I don't know what year) is completely shameful.

Peaceful BLM protesters near the WH were met with police brutality and these i-dont-know-what-to-call-them were met with a shell of uniform officers who could do little more than take fucking selfies and give up their riot shields to protesters who then used them to break windows and trespass in government offices...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 07, 2021, 03:31:42 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 01:47:40 PM »

lol at anyone dumb enough to believe this Democrat stunt

If you tried to force your way into the country's capitol building on a normal weekday with a group of people do you think you could do it without all of you getting totally massacred?

Tom, looks like you were right about yesterday's mess being a political stunt... just looks like you were wrong about who was complicit...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 07, 2021, 03:38:43 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 01:54:53 AM »

Theres always a tweet

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 01:16:53 AM »

lol at anyone dumb enough to believe this Democrat stunt

If you tried to force your way into the country's capitol building on a normal weekday with a group of people do you think you could do it without all of you getting totally massacred?

Here are the protestors when they got past the barricades. The barricades are pulled open for them and the police casually turn their backs to them and walk with the protestors towards the capitol building:

https://twitter.com/PollEveryday2/status/1346969946992029696

Here are the protestors gaining entrance into the building interior. The vigilant policeman is unarmed, waves a little stick, and just runs away from them:

https://twitter.com/IndigoLeo10/status/1346941327720796166

Numbers matter, Tom.

Those understaffed police could have resisted and held the line... then we'd have multiple hurt/dead protesters and police officers.

There wasnt enough police to make a strong enough show of force to deter that large group of protesters. Its basic.

That same argument could be flipped around to say that all those Portland protests were just a republican stunt - why would the police just let them take over a neighbourhood?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 06, 2021, 11:41:50 PM »

Your video didn't understand the quadrillion claim either. It was clarified later in the that thread. The author of that claim was right in what he specifically said, and people were interpreting it wrong.

No. The author's math was technically correct, but there was no justifiable basis for the author to have performed that math on the voting data because the data populations were so drastically distinct.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 06, 2021, 11:11:04 PM »

"The crowds were kept small" is just an excuse, FYI. How about thousands of people gathering just to be in his presence? Gathering to watch his plane land? Gathering to cheer him on? We've seen none of that.

So yes, lack of public support is evidence.

Thanks for dropping the county number argument at least.

Why would there have been people gathering? The message from the Democrat team was always to stay home, listen to public health officials.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 06, 2021, 08:00:58 PM »

2020 started with a risk of a rise to WWIII, so I guess why not start off 2021 with a risk of Civil War 2?

Nothing like a free and fair election to spark a good riot I guess.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 06, 2021, 07:34:00 PM »

Things are escalating way too quickly.... this is going to end badly

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 06, 2021, 06:55:24 PM »

Here's a map where half the US population is coloured, the other half left uncolored, by County. 143 of the height populated Counties comprise 50% of the population.

Win the right counties by a high enough margin, you win the popular vote.



Above is La county vs the number of smallest counties it takes to reach the same population.
The number of counties a candidate wins has no bearing on their success in winning an election.
This is WHY the US has the electoral college in the first place. Republicans would never win without it. And as problematic as it is, the concept is important.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 06, 2021, 05:08:26 AM »

The first black senator was elected in 1870. There is plenty of precedent for black people in politics. None for the statistical anomalies you are alleging.

Not the president.  Got it.

You should find a better source for your news. That was debonked - https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-pence-nytimes-decertify-results

Because Trump would never, ever, ever lie.

Anyway, now that the GOP have lost control of the Senate, what do you plan on doing with your 2,000 Biden Bucks?  Donate them to Trump?

Biden won't be president. Tom has all the positive evidence, like people not going to rallies during a pandemic and  him not knowing where the bulk of Americas population  lives. Krakalakken.