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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: My compilation of Flat Earth video

« on: May 30, 2021, 10:52:29 PM »

I added new videos guys check them out (my 1 mesage in topic)

Moment please, Miss Ally7.

Lots and lots of flat earth in your posted videos, yes? What exactly do these videos seek to prove? If you visit my property you can take many flat earth videos of my turf farm which is laid on very flat earth. I took special care to flatten the earth to maximize my turf. In fact, this is how I accidentally stumble across this website, in search for earth flattening machinery. 

Thirty kilometers high, is not high enough to see total shape of earth. Try 240 kilometers or higher.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: In Flat Earth Model, How do Migratory Birds Navigate

« on: May 21, 2021, 05:05:26 PM »

Once again Mr Bishop, flat earther not unsurprisingly reach too obvious a conclusion. The eyes see the words in the article, but do not read them.

Observe: Mr. Bishop says, " The author concludes, unsurprisingly, that despite all their efforts, that they still don't know for sure how birds migrate." Not so. Navigation by starlight has been discovered as one of many tools, birds use to migrate. Note my use of the word "birds".

The author is not referring to birds in the final words of the final paragraph, and is instead referring to an individual bird. Observe: Author says, "Although our understanding of the migratory navigation of birds has come a long way since Kramer began the experimental approach some twenty years ago, the total of our knowledge is still not enough to fully explain how an individual bird finds it's way between it's breeding territory and it's wintering grounds."

Birds migrating can be explained, Mr. Bishop. It is the individual bird migrating which still retains unanswered questions according to that author.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: In Flat Earth Model, How do Migratory Birds Navigate

« on: May 21, 2021, 01:44:20 AM »

No, actually those are just hypotheses. What experiment demonstrated that birds are studying the positions of stars while in flight?

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature13290

This is some fascinating research that proves in an elegant way that birds use electomagnetism to orient themselves in the direction they are supposed to migrate.

These birds kept in an urban lab would just bounce around in random directions, confused, but when taken to the countryside, the birds would know which way to orient themselves. They hypothesized that the electromagnetic 'noise' permeating the urban lab was responsible for disrupting the birds' ability to orient themselves in the direction of migration.

If a human was disoriented when you filled his brain with electromagnetic noise and disrupted his brain activity it obviously could be unrelated related to how humans navigate on a higher level. Correlation does not equal causation. There is a lot more to prove there.

Ahhhhhh, Mr. Bishop. Moment please. Your humble expert servant is happy to easily answer your query.

Is your internet search function broken? Simple google search reveal in the 1960's, German ornithologists Franz and Eleanour Saver discovered birds navigate the night sky using stars. They collected data from a series of experiments conducted inside an enclosed planetarium. They determined they used stars to migrate, using a genetically coded map of the stars.

A decade later, Cornell scientist Stephen Emlen, experimented with indigo buntings also inside an enclosed planetarium. He discovered they are programmed to orient to the north star, Polaris. They require a rotating sky to fix on Polaris.

Not just hypotheses afterall.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: In Flat Earth Model, How do Migratory Birds Navigate

« on: May 18, 2021, 05:20:58 AM »

Mr Bishop, are you not familiar with the work of Melissa Mayntz? Mrs Mayntz has written a 2020 article titled, "Bird Migration - How it works, How do birds migrate correctly?"

You seem to have missed this article in your long list of book references? To paraphrase, she asserts scientific research has been completed on a number of migratory birds and several techniques for birds navigation have been discovered. These include, magnetic sensing, geographic mapping, star and sun orientation, and learned routes.

Therefore, scientists as well as teachers are well within their rights to claim they know how birds migrate, along with the who, what, where, and when. Electromagnetism as Mr Scomato says, is a powerful navigational tool used by birds, but not the exclusive tool.

But, why only concentrate on birds? There is considerable documentation that cats and dogs when taken away from their homes, have been known to travel hundreds and sometimes  thousands of kilometres to return to their home.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: In Flat Earth Model, How do Migratory Birds Navigate

« on: May 18, 2021, 01:42:22 AM »

Mr. Bishop, migratory birds navigation has already mostly been explained. Your chosen article is a branch off from the topic, and far more interesting.

Your article focuses on homing pigeon navigation in their ability to fly home after long travel periods of great sensory deprivation. Scientists may have an incomplete understanding of how homing pigeons achieve this, but the nose knows theory and magnetic map theory are far from nonsensical. Scientists have confirmed the presence of magnetite in homing pigeon beaks which may act as a tiny gps unit for the pigeon, giving it information about its position relative to earth's poles.

There are places around the world with magnetic anomalies that repeatedly confuse the direction of homing pigeons, offering proof they rely on magnetic navigation to a degree. Infrasound has also been suggested as used by homing pigeons.

I should be disgusted if no theory were offered up by science to explain homing pigeon ability. From your flat earth studies, do you have a more complete explanation, Mr. Bishop?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Proof positive the earth is flat

« on: May 16, 2021, 11:25:38 PM »

Thank you for the CGI and none coming up from horizon. We've all been outdoors at night and none EVER to straight up from the distance horizon.

Moment please. I read your reply and believe I may of some humble assistance.

Mr J-Man, consider this. How many times have you seen shower of rain travel upwards from the distant horizon or where you are standing under a cloud? The same principle Mr J-Man apply also to meteorite shower. All showers travel down, not up, Mr J-Man.

No, there are circumstances where a meteor could appear to emerge from behind the horizon and travel “up” in your field of vision.

Yes, Mr Rama Set. You are absolutely correct. But, your operative words are, "could appear" to emerge from behind horizon and travel up.

Consider this: We only see meteorites because of the air friction as the rock from outer space travels down, increasing speed and friction, causing the meteor to heat up and glow brightly. For us to see meteorite, meteorite must be travelling down towards earth surface. Otherwise, meteorite is not meteorite. It is called, asteroid. Meteorites that appear to travel up, merely enter earth atmosphere on angle as they are really travelling down. An upward meteorite is an optical illusion, Mr. Rama Set.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Proof positive the earth is flat

« on: May 16, 2021, 11:01:00 PM »

Thank you for the CGI and none coming up from horizon. We've all been outdoors at night and none EVER to straight up from the distance horizon.

Moment please. I read your reply and believe I may of some humble assistance.

Mr J-Man, consider this. How many times have you seen shower of rain travel upwards from the distant horizon or where you are standing under a cloud? The same principle Mr J-Man apply also to meteorite shower. All showers travel down, not up, Mr J-Man.