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Then the same logic should apply when I jump. The air should be moving with the earth and I shouldn't hit the ground.So you are the same as an aircraft? You have wings?
Exactly. Logic dictates, by their own explanation, that a plane would be hit by the earth's upward momentum.Logic? Don't confuse your poor powers of reasoning with an irrefutable paradigm like logic. Logic means that all the relevant information is known to form a conclusion. You don't know your arse from your elbow. Junk in, junk out.
I hope no one minds if i make a single attempt to stick this back on track.How are we supposed to know what you are looking for, when everything you ask for is very easy to find?
I am really trying to find anything that Rowbotham wrote about his personal life or that was written about his life by another author.
Does anyone know where Garwood got the stuff about his childhood and schooling, for instance?
How is Tesla not world leaders in electric and autonomy.
Tesla is funded by Elon’s own personal funds and several private investors.Investors who want that money back.
And you can’t say space x get their tech from nasa.Ok, what if Bill Nye says it and Neil De Grasse Tyson agrees?
Space x actually developed their own engines and had to develop the insanely complex software to land their rockets.The Merlin uses a pintle injector, a design first used in the Lunar Module Descent Engine, developed from original work at Caltech and JPL. Its design was publicised as U.S. Patent 3,699,772.
It’s a private company and you say Elon will do what ever nasa tells him..... Evidence? Can you show anything that Elon is NASA’s dog?I said SpaceX is the US government's dog. Not NASA's.
I'm sorry I don't see the world as black and white. That instead of "everyone will die if we don't do this" I consider annoying problems like the cost of vaccinating those with perfectly good immune systems or the rise in drug resistant strains of common diseases. It is almost as if I don't want to waste money, that I want people to have strong immune systems, to reduce allergies and that I want these drugs to work for people who actually need them. I'm a monster.I really want to see if Flat Earthers think anti-vaxxers are stupid.
Aside from Thork: they do.
That is probably the most gracious defeat accepted by anyone on this site for a very long time. I tip my new hat to you (I stole it from Jeppspace's flaccid corpse).
But he aligns the sundials with MAGNETIC north. That's the offset. Magnetic north is not some point in the infinite distance. It is a place on earth. If I point my sundial in London to the same place as you point yours in California ... are those sundials aligned parallel, round earth or flat? The guy is in Canada for Pete's sake. That's going to give him quite an offset. He needs to make sure they are pointing to the same place.
Not true north. Not magnetic north. Not grid north. They all bend around to face a point. Pointing with respect to a place infinitely far away in the same direction. He could have line them both up with a star for an instantaneous money shot, for example.
Of course finding a star during the day is going to be a problem ... but its round earth's problem. Maybe you could line them up the night before ... and then do the experiment the next day.
But then I might challenge if the stars are really billions of miles away ... because round earth has the distance of the sun wrong too.
You are right and I am wrong. At 5:40 in the video he says the sundials are lined up with the road and lined up with each other. I assumed that was what he had done but he hadn't. He didn't try to line the sundials up with the road. If he had, he would have found that the compass bearings were different for the reasons you have stated. I humbly submit that I was wrong and consider myself schooled
What I have found though is that you can still do Eratosthenes' experiment if the road is completely straight. But you have to throw away the compass. You don't need an external reference. If the two sundials are perfectly parallel to the road and the shadow goes down the middle of the base of one, it does go down the middle of the base of the other. Not surprising because light from the sun travels in a straight line, at least horizontally. At any time of the year, when this happens next to that road, the difference in elevation is 1.22°. For example, these are two points on that road 135.596km apart (according to GPS):
https://www.suncalc.org/#/50.4229,-104.5336,14/2019.06.23/10:57/1/3
https://www.suncalc.org/#/49.68,-103.0324,16/2019.06.23/10:57/1/3
According to Eratosthenes' formula, this makes the circumference of the Earth:
360 / 1.22 * 135.689 = 40011km.
Very, very close to the accepted number. Unfortunately for me, the shadows go down the middle of the bases at the same time on a round Earth too so my proof of a round Earth, as you already know, is garbage.
Interesting. Although I wouldn't say this is a reason to believe it's possible for google maps to be wrong everywhere, since everywhere else maps do just work while as is very evident from this video, people know full well that the maps in china are wrong and can see that for themselves. It's also a written law and everyone can look it up so it's no secret even if people (including myself) were oblivious to this.The point is, these maps also work in China. Its not like they don't have sat nav in their cars. They just overlay the algorithm and the people are non the wiser.
Basically, just because this area of the map is documented as wrong doesn't mean everywhere else is. Still an interesting thing to learn though thanks for showing the video!
Not surprising that China would do something like that. During the Cold War, the former Soviet Union did pretty much the same thing. They had highly detailed maps for the military, but deliberately distorted civilian maps so that they were pretty much useless for navigation lest they fall into enemy hands.Then please don't ever argue black is white with me again that GPS maps prove earth is round.Worse, the maps for the masses were deliberately distorted with a special projection that introduced random variations. “The main goal was to crush the contents of maps so it would be impossible to recreate the real geography of a place from the map,” Postnikov tells me. Well-known landmarks like rivers and towns were depicted, but the coordinates, directions, and distances were all off, making them useless for navigation or military planning, should they fall into enemy hands. The cartographer who devised this devious scheme was awarded the State Prize by Stalin.
