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Flat Earth Community / The Final Experiment
« on: May 17, 2024, 11:43:50 AM »
I think this is the right place for this.
Are you aware of The Final Experiment?

The aim is to send one globe earther and one flat earther to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun - which would be an issue for the monopole model. Or, if it doesn't occur would be an issue for the globe.

They have invited high profile people from both sides to participate - I didn't actually see anyone from here on the list, I think they're mostly going for YouTubers.
They say they're going to provide the funding for one person from each side, but others can join at their own expense - it was something like $30,000, so not cheap.

Any thoughts on this? Would any of you have liked to be invited or would be interested in going? Do you think this is a good experiment? If you observed the 24 hour sun in Antarctica would that change your mind about FE or would it just steer you towards a different FE model like the bi-polar one?

Suggestions & Concerns / SSL
« on: September 28, 2023, 02:36:39 PM »
Has your certificate expired? I'm getting warnings about the site not being secure.

Flat Earth Investigations / Virgin Galactic
« on: August 10, 2023, 08:52:11 PM »
So, years later than advertised, Virgin Galactic is finally open for business.
They had some test flight a few months back and they've just completed their first "space tourist" flight

Obviously this is still prohibitively expensive for "normal" people, but are there any FE thoughts about this or plans for a crowdfunding to get an FE. Here's the press conference:

Any thoughts on these people. Are they actors? Did they really go on the trip they claimed? None of them mention "the curve", interestingly. Is this a real business or is it being faked?

Science & Alternative Science / NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: April 03, 2023, 05:31:05 PM »
NASA announce their latest group of astronauts who will pretend to go to the moon

Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 01:14:26 PM »
Under "medical supervision". The family have all gone to visit her.
Even BBC1 have suspended all programming till 6pm.
Doesn't sound good :(

Suggestions & Concerns / Home Page
« on: April 08, 2022, 08:10:14 AM »
Hi. Your home page sucks. No offence. I mean, you still have a Happy New Year message up there. It's April.

Sort it out.

I mean, either make it a generic home page or if you're going to have some "topical" stuff up there then you need to update it more regularly.

So there.

Suggestions & Concerns / SSL
« on: April 04, 2022, 08:07:11 AM »
Did your SSL Certificate expire or something? I'm getting the "Not secure" warning from Chrome today

Flat Earth Investigations / ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: March 31, 2022, 10:32:11 AM »
This photo has just been released of the ISS, taken from the ground in Germany

The structure of it is very clear and it claims to show one of the astronauts doing a spacewalk. It's admittedly just a dot, but what would you expect from that distance.

It's an interesting avenue of investigation for those of you who think the ISS is fake, there's clearly something up there and with not that expensive equipment you can see the structure of it from the ground. If it's not an orbiting space station then what is it, how did it get up there and what keeps it up there and travelling on the path it does?

Flat Earth Investigations / ISS 2031
« on: February 04, 2022, 10:08:33 AM »
So NASA just announced that the ISS will keep operating till 2030 and then in 2031 it will be sent in to a death spiral and plunge in to the ocean.
They've even said where:

I'm not sure where I'm going with this other than this is Flat Earth Investigations and I'd suggest this is an opportunity to investigate the ISS and by extension FET.
This is something they're saying will happen, they're telling you where and when. It's something which could potentially be observed - well, it's certainly be on video at the time, you may regard the choice of location, a point far from land, as suspicious. I'd suggest it's a pretty sensible choice given they don't want it crashing on anyone or anything which would cause damage/death.

Flat Earth Theory / Experiment to Distinguish FE from RE
« on: January 18, 2022, 01:16:47 PM »
What experiments could one do in order to distinguish FE from RE?

I would suggest that objects sinking below the horizon, the distance (and angle dip) to the horizon increasing with altitude are observations which we all agree on.
That could be explained by us living on a globe - objects disappear over the curve, as you ascend you see further over the curve. But these observations could equally be explained by EA on a flat earth.

I think we can all agree that objects fall. That could be explained by mass attracting mass, but it could equally be explained by UA.

Ah, but the weight of things, and therefore the force of gravity, varies by latitude (and in other ways) in a measurable way. That could be explained by a spinning globe, the centrifugal force being greater nearer the equator where you are spinning faster. Other variations can be explained by the mass of the earth not being distributed perfectly uniformly.
But it could also be explained by Celestial Gravitation causing local variations.

RET has explanations for all the above. If FET has hypothesised mechanisms which also explain them then what experiment can we do to help us determine the true shape of the earth?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Democracy Is Overrated
« on: December 06, 2021, 05:47:38 PM »

He does have a point, tbf.

I used to joke that there should be a test before you can vote, I am getting increasingly serious about that as I get older.
And I don’t mean an intelligence test but just some basic indication that you know who you’re voting for and what they stand for would be nice.

Flat Earth Investigations / Space Geodesy
« on: September 06, 2021, 05:46:47 PM »
Who knew this was a thing? Big fan of Tom Scott. Bumped into him last year in a park in London and told him I was a fan. Anyway, he did a video on this:

Be interested to know if there’s any FE thoughts on this.

Suggestions & Concerns / New Users’ Posting Rights
« on: September 02, 2021, 08:37:20 AM »
I see we’ve had a fly by spammer shitting up the board.
I wouldn’t see this is a major problem here but it’s not the first time I’ve seen it.
On other boards I’ve moderated I’ve done things to mitigate this like having to validate new users (often from the email address you can tell if it’s someone serious). Or you can do things like only let new users post in certain sections until they’ve shown they’re not just joining to spam.

For your consideration.

Suggestions & Concerns / Abusive DMs
« on: August 10, 2021, 09:48:43 PM »
Iceman mentioned something in AR which reminded me of something.
I have raised this with Pete privately, but a certain poster does have a habit of sending people abusive DMs when riled.
It seems to be his way of circumventing the rules about personal abuse.
There's no way of reporting a DM, and while I don't think DMs should be covered by the same rules as posts on the fora, I don't think people should have carte blanche to spam people with abusive DMs either.

I believe Pete discussed this with the other mods but I'm not aware there was any outcome.

Suggestions & Concerns / Warning!
« on: June 18, 2021, 08:19:46 AM »
In yet another terrible decision and injustice, I have apparently received a warning:


You have received a warning for breaching rule 1 (no personal attacks). Please try to discuss ideas, rather than the individuals who presented them.

Please abide by the forum rules, otherwise further action will be taken.

You may remind yourself of the forum rules here

The Flat Earth Society Forum Team.

Now obviously this is another blunder from the mediocre mods, but point of order. How am I supposed to know what post I've been warned for?
Am I being stupid or is there no way of telling? Usually the post gets moved to AR or a comment is made in the relevant thread but I can't see anything, so...

My actual suggestion - when these PMs are sent could a link to the relevant post be added so the person can see what ridiculous decision has been made they're being warned for.


Science & Alternative Science / NASA and China sitting in a tree...
« on: June 10, 2021, 02:10:43 PM »
...on Mars.

I thought this was interesting. So I guess now NASA are faking images of other countries' craft I guess to keep the whole "spaceflight is a thing" ruse going?

Flat Earth Community / On the Notion of Flat Earth Belief Growth
« on: April 11, 2021, 06:56:05 AM »
So Pete and me have crossed swords a few times on the idea that FE belief is growing to the point where it’s a significant percentage of people who believe in FE. Don’t get me wrong, you guys are certainly more known than you were 10 years ago and there’s certainly some evidence which shows it has got some traction in certain areas. Although there’s also evidence that some people simply pretend to believe in a flat earth online for the lolz.

Anyway, so scimandan spent a few hours on Omegle fishing for flat earthers and found not a one. Not the most scientific approach maybe, but make of this what you will. If FE belief was as prevalent as some on here claim then surely by chance you’d find some believers this way.

[EDIT: Link removed - let's not boost engagement for this creep. ~pete]

Science & Alternative Science / And Then There Were Five
« on: April 08, 2021, 06:09:22 AM »

Evidence building for a fifth force of nature although it all sounds a bit complicated and I’m not sure how it changes or refines our understanding of reality

Flat Earth Investigations / VFX Artists React to the Moon Landing
« on: April 07, 2021, 03:12:29 PM »
I think this is the right place for this.
As per the title. Interesting video of a few guys who work in the VFX industry watching footage from the moon landings and commenting on how authentic it looks.

Few points of interest, they comment on the length of some of the shots which they say would have been incredibly difficult to do in miniature or slow mo. The way the dust moves doesn't make sense in an atmosphere where you'd get turbulence.
The reflections in the visors would have been problematic - you'd expect to see lights or of the camera.
They compare it to the film 2001 which would have been state of the art VFX of the time and note how different it looks and how clear the effects are in it are.

I thought it was interesting because most of the "moon landing is fake" arguments which focus on how the footage is fake come from people with no expertise in the field.

Flat Earth Community / Fly You To The Moon
« on: March 03, 2021, 07:25:47 AM »
Not entirely sure this is the right section for this, but I’m filing it under “recent events which affect the community.”

A billionaire is looking for volunteers for a moon mission:

This would be a good opportunity for someone with an empirical bent to put all this round earth nonsense to bed once and for all. Any takers?

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