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Other Discussion Boards => Arts & Entertainment => Topic started by: Oscar on February 14, 2016, 05:49:01 AM
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Is anyone interested in playing a game of Diplomacy? It's kind of a simpler version of Risk, only everyone's moves are arranged secretly and revealed/settled simultaneously. Negotiation is as important as actual military maneuvers and therefore necessary to win.
Each player assumes control of one of seven of the Great Powers of Europe at the dawn of the 20th century. Wars will be declared, territories conquered, and alliances forged - and broken! Betrayal is practically inevitable in this game, so the question isn't whether or not your allies will stab you in the back, but when.
The seven Great Powers consist of Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire. If we can't scrape together that many players, we can still play with less. Countries are supposed to be distributed at random, but I'm willing to allow you to claim your preference at this point. We can get stricter about the rules later on if this takes off. I'll be serving in the role of gamemaster - a neutral adjudicator who you'll be privately sending your orders to every turn. Orders will be resolved as soon as I receive them from every player, or else at the end of one week. If I don't receive any orders from you by then, all of your units will be held in place for the resolution phase. Negotiation can take place in the thread or (of course) through private channels.
The full rules may be found here (http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy_rulebook.pdf).
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Sounds great. I am in.
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I'm in too.
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I will play
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Forum or realtime?
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Forum or realtime?
How quickly the game moves is up to the players. The quicker everyone submits their orders, the quicker they can be resolved. If everyone happens to be online at once, we could potentially blow through several full turns in a couple of hours. Of course, that probably won't be the case most of the time. I'll be moving on to the next phase automatically after one week. That should be plenty of time for anyone who is still active.
Oh. Perfect. I'm game.
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I assume the coloured countries have been assigned already?
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If not, I'm Britain.
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I want to join. France would be my first preference.
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I want Germany.
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Lemme get that Russia
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I'll take the Empire.
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Count me in. I'll be Austria-Hungary.
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I can't count, but it looks like Italy is free. If so, I'll join in.
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I vote to annex France.
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I vote to annex France.
je suis un surrender han hon hon
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I vote to annex France.
je suis un surrender han hon hon
Close enough. Oscar please record this appropriately, I have annexed France.
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Are we playing? And do people get my messages?
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It ain't great if other players are ignoring your overtures, and it's even worse to let everyone else know that they are.
There are still three days left to submit orders.
Just making sure my messages are getting through... ::)
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I have no idea how to play actually, and yes, I read the rules. Is the seven week time the diplomatic phase?
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I have no idea how to play actually, and yes, I read the rules. Is the seven week time the diplomatic phase?
As near as I can figure the rules break down into:
2 turns per "year" spring and fall.
You give orders for spring and fall.(move, attack, build, support)
Whatever territories you own after fall stuff resolves, you own and can build more units.
Before you write out your moves/actions, talk to other people. Don't go alone cause then you're gonna die.
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Update?
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If this were real life, Hitler would have eradicated all the impurities in Europe by now. Is that what you slackers want?
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I get the feeling some players are no longer interested...
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if y'all restart the game, i'd be down to take one of the vacant seats.
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Yeah I'll bow out. Sorry
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also, how are we playing? are you using an app or anything like that?
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also, how are we playing? are you using an app or anything like that?
Forum.
Post and PM.
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Stuff came up, go on without me
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We'll be moving the game over here (http://www.backstabbr.com/).
Send me your gmail address for an invite.
No invite received yet.
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A momentous hour has struck for Germany. Envious rivals everywhere force us to legitimate defense. The sword has been forced into our hands. I hope that in the event that my efforts to the very last moment do not succeed in bringing our opponents to reason and in preserving peace, we may use the sword, with the help of God, so that we may sheathe it again with honor. War will demand enormous sacrifices by the German people, but we shall show the enemy what it means to attack Germany.
And so I commend you to God. Go forth into the churches, kneel down before God, and implore his help for our brave army.
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Who would be foolish to attack my German friends?
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The people are Germany are a people of peace, and we welcome good relations with our Italian neighbors. One of my statesmen will send along a proposal shortly.
Let it never be said that the great citizens of the German Empire thirst for war. To that end, Germany would like to officially extend an offer of mutual nonaggression to any nation interested in preserving the peace and prosperity of Europe and her allies. Feel free to contact the Kaiser at your convenience to discuss any interest or terms you may have.
also the kaiser will try to be on irc more often for diplomacy related stuff.
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The people are Germany are a people of peace, and we welcome good relations with our Italian neighbors. One of my statesmen will send along a proposal shortly.
Let it never be said that the great citizens of the German Empire thirst for war. To that end, Germany would like to officially extend an offer of mutual nonaggression to any nation interested in preserving the peace and prosperity of Europe and her allies. Feel free to contact the Kaiser at your convenience to discuss any interest or terms you may have.
also the kaiser will try to be on irc more often for diplomacy related stuff.
I would be more then pleased to host the Kaiser and join in this nonaggression pact. Such an agreement can only strengthen our two nations.
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I would be more then pleased to host the Kaiser and join in this nonaggression pact. Such an agreement can only strengthen our two nations.
excellent! consider it done. we welcome peace with our italian neighbors. the people of germany expect their kaiser to ensure their access to all the finest cured meats and sausages, and i won't let them down.
I'm also interested in knowing who Germany believes its enemies to be.
certainly not our friends in family in saint petersburg. germany would love to formalize its friendship with the russian empire in a nonaggression pact. we're family, dear cousin, and family shouldn't fight.
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germany is starting to get the impression that at least one of the other great powers isn't all that interested in this game
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Nuclear launch detected.
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Great thread, guys.
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Great thread, guys.
Go away if you aren't going to contribute anything.
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germany is starting to get the impression that at least one of the other great powers isn't all that interested in this game
There's at least one player who isn't checking the box to "resolve orders once all powers have issued orders". It's probably them.
Fuck them.
Also, WAR!
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So, Austria has betrayed me immediately after agreeing to a non-agression pact.
I have lost a supply depot. With only two depots and two units, I am outmatched more than 2 to 1.
Therefore, I am surrendering and disbanding all my units.
Austria will have unchallenged access to all south western Europe.
Yes this is a rage quit but hey, I see no victory for me so why bother going on? I thought about fighting until the end so everyone else could fight him while he was distracted but you wouldn't. I suspect you'd all have me removed quickly so I say "Enjoy Parsifal Rule".
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also roundy quit on us i think. no moves last turn.
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also roundy quit on us i think. no moves last turn.
He must be the ass who isn't checking the check box.
Him or Parsifal.
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Sorry about the missed turn, guys, that was my bad.
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Austria will have unchallenged access to all south western Europe.
Yes this is a rage quit but hey, I see no victory for me so why bother going on? I thought about fighting until the end so everyone else could fight him while he was distracted but you wouldn't. I suspect you'd all have me removed quickly so I say "Enjoy Parsifal Rule".
Sorry to hear that. I mean, yeah you got fucked over, but someone has to fuck over someone else in this game. I just saw an opportunity and took it.
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Austria will have unchallenged access to all south western Europe.
Yes this is a rage quit but hey, I see no victory for me so why bother going on? I thought about fighting until the end so everyone else could fight him while he was distracted but you wouldn't. I suspect you'd all have me removed quickly so I say "Enjoy Parsifal Rule".
Sorry to hear that. I mean, yeah you got fucked over, but someone has to fuck over someone else in this game. I just saw an opportunity and took it.
Yeah well, I just hate being fucked over in the second turn, making the game impossible for me to win.
If we could make units at any supply depot then it would be different.
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Hey, how do I disband the rest of my army? I could only disband one last round.
And surrender? How do I do that?
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Hey, how do I disband the rest of my army? I could only disband one last round.
And surrender? How do I do that?
Dunno if you can. We may have to fight it out whether you like it or not.
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Hey, how do I disband the rest of my army? I could only disband one last round.
And surrender? How do I do that?
Dunno if you can. We may have to fight it out whether you like it or not.
Figures....
Well fine. Where do you want my armies so they don't interfere with your conquest?
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It may be a pyrrhic victory but give the bastard a bloody nose as you go down, don't be remembered by your people as the ruler that rolled over, death to the invader!
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It may be a pyrrhic victory but give the bastard a bloody nose as you go down, don't be remembered by your people as the ruler that rolled over, death to the invader!
Can't. I ran the sandboxes. Nothing I do will take a territory. Italy will be gone by winter of 1903. (3 turns)
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ok, first of all, the french asked us to come to paris, ok? and second of all what we do or don't do in france is none of your beeswax. so i dunno why any of you would insinuate, or were maybe going to insinuate, that we're taking over france, because we're not, so stop yapping about it.
i mean i feel like one of you was going to start yapping about it, so let's just nip that right in the bud. no one is taking over france. we're just, you know, we're kicking it over here for a bit, no big deal.
i don't have to justify myself to you people.
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So, being landlocked and literally every player in a better position (including France who is an NPC) I thought I'd try to get Germany and Austria to fight by making up some fake communications to hint that we're in an alliance to secretly take down Germany but it has occurred to me that, well... no one would believe it. Diplomacy, as I've learned, is a game that requires more talking than actual unit movement. No one but Austria wants to talk to me and even that is mostly dismissals of any proposal or pleads. And with good reason, obviously. So, I've decided, out of sheer boredom, to post the entirety of our communications. It is honest, true, and complete. Parsifal can confirm.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Lord_dave/DiplomacyAustria-ItalyComm_zpsg6mokxce.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Lord_dave/media/DiplomacyAustria-ItalyComm_zpsg6mokxce.jpg.html)
Sadly, I can't surrender or disband units. Apparently the game's creators felt that players would leave if they're losing and no one would want to replace them. Why this is a bad thing, I'm not sure. Truth is, I'm out of options. I tried taking Mun which would have given me 1 extra unit for a few turns that would have helped but that was blocked. Now, I'm unable to take any land unless someone decides to not defend, which silly since everyone has enough units to defend all their territories.
So, here are my current plans:
I will be moving my unit out of Rom to Tus. Austria will be moving from ION to Nap and take that. He'll hold Venice to ensure I don't backstab, which is understandable. I'll move my unit from Tyr to Boh.
In Fall, I'll move from Tus to Pie and from Boh to Gal. Once there, Austria will move from Ven to Rom, Tri to Ven, and probably Bud to Tri.
Then Italy will finally be removed from the game.
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To surrender, click the drop-down victory conditions for the turn and select "surrender" before submitting the order.
I did. It requires everyone else to choose victoryXplayers winning or surrender and with two AIas, that won't happen.
Also, I know I was screwed from round 2. I'm still looking forward to the next game.
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God fucking damnit, parsifal? Why can't you take the mother fucking land I'm fucking giving you?
Are you TRYING to keep me alive so I can attack someone for you?
And why in God's name would do an action that isn't going to work? I TOLD YOU where I was goin but no, you just HAD to train move north.
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And why in God's name would do an action that isn't going to work? I TOLD YOU where I was goin but no, you just HAD to train move north.
You said you were going to keep your armies where they were before, and then did something different. I just assumed you were lying again.
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And why in God's name would do an action that isn't going to work? I TOLD YOU where I was goin but no, you just HAD to train move north.
You said you were going to keep your armies where they were before, and then did something different. I just assumed you were lying again.
Even if I was, you made no attempt to get Napal. An easy state to get. And why block Boh?
So now, you can't take everything by winter. So now I'm alive for another year. Great...
Well, at least now everyone can be suspicious as to why you're not taking italy.
Look, you asked why I was moving up, what my strategy is well, I have none. I'm moving pointlessly. I can only do something if I get help but no one is stupid enough to help so I'm waiting for you to finish me off. A task you could have done by now if you wanted.
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He doesn't want to take Italy as people will notice the similarity of his new look and that of Mussolini (https://iltalebano.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mussolini.jpg)
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You have about a day left, steve. Don't hesitate. Do it. Take Italy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoOP2l_ahQ
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People who makes youtube videos by recording a tv with a camera should be shot on sight.
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People who makes youtube videos by recording a tv with a camera should be shot on sight.
I'm pretty sure their videos are.
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People who makes youtube videos by recording a tv with a camera should be shot on sight.
Agreed but I didn't make the vid.
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Yes, I know that.
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Thank you, steve. Finally, I'm out of the game, just as Russia attacks Germany.
Bet Austria moves in next.
And hey, germany, I told you where I was moving. If you wanted to go there you should have said so.
So now being a territory away is the price you pay for not communicating.
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Jesus, do we finally get to see Lord Dave stop whining now?
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Jesus, do we finally get to see Lord Dave stop whining now?
Yep.
Yeah...i guess I did whine alot.
I want to apologize for that. This game has affected me more than I like. Or so I'd like to believe, but I don't think its isolated to that game.
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"Begin shelling our position. In front of us is a large group of fascists. Farewell, comrades. We did not retreat."
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Are you still playing? Geeze...
Oh, I see now. Its over. Three on one.
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I forgot to take a few turns and then gave up because there was no way to recover. I would have won otherwise.
Also, you stopped responding to my diplomacy. :(
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Yeah, I am sorry for the spamming. I just had a mental breakdown of pure frustration. I will never play that game again. I've learned my lesson.