You're right, you aren't. Just like a sign that says "no parking" doesn't mean you won't get people parking there. But the sign isn't there to stop everyone, the sign is there to tell you "it's not allowed and if we find out, you will be punished."
What good does that do when someone commits a mass shooting?
Probably the same as "Drug Free Zone." Imagine if teachers could bring pot or alcohol into school.
Let me put it another way. Without that sign, anyone can walk in with a gun strapped to their hip with no fear of being told they can't. Which means every single one of them could start opening fire at any time. But you can't stop them from entering. Nope. Gotta open that door for them. So instead of having at least a reason to stop someone from entering with a gun, you gotta wait until they start shooting before you call the cops. Like if I saw someone, carrying a gun, walk from the parking lot of my old school I'd be able to call the cops right away. Without that gun free sign, I'd have to wait until they start shooting. Also, it forces the shooter to conceal their gun before entering, which limits the guns they can carry.
Which if the teacher is willing and passionate about defending himself and his class, wouldn't be that much of a load.
A lot of teachers are willing and passionate about protecting their students. In fact, even in the parkland school shooting, the policies of "locking the door and hiding in a corner" worked super well. The people who get shot now are those in the hall ways. So what you're saying is we should give teachers guns so they can abandon their students and run off in the halls to find a shooter that could be another teacher or parent they know?
Right.
Like when cops shot an 11 year old who had a toy.
If you're talking about Tamir Rice, for one his airgun was indistinguishable from a real gun and he was pointing it at people. For another, As the officers approached Rice, Rice made a quick draw motion.
The guy pointed the phone as if it was a firearm. As for why they didn't approach, you can still shoot while lying down.
These kinda prove my point.
1. Shooting a kid is never a good option. I don't care if he does have a real gun with real bullets, you tackle him and hope you don't die when he fires.
2. Cops must be in a state of hyper vigilance at all times on the job. Each of these cases illustrate that no matter how much training you have, you're gotta shoot whoever you think can shoot you back. So every single CCW teacher is now a target and cops WILL shoot first. They're trained to. Shoot first, figure out if they were innocent later.
Not really if the math teacher carries for most of his adult life.
Still take the cop.
However some teachers possess the fortitude of a seasoned officer and I advocate those with the fortitude should be allowed to carry.
Again, fortitude is not the issue. I've no doubt many CCW teachers could handle a gun. My issue is that they shouldn't have to in a school, with an active shooter, while police are gonna come in. It adds more guns to a situation that's already chaotic.
That's why they offer active shooter training for civilians.
I've seen those.
Rubbish. The video simulator is better but even so, it's a bunch of stand up targets in a plywood covered area. It lacks the other students, police, a moving shooter, etc...
If not moving as a group, then barricading the room you're in.
Which is what they do now. And it's really effective. The parkland kids who died? Died cause they were not in the classroom (due to a fire alarm being pulled if I recall correctly).
Which again, this can be mitigated by training and having familiarity on who are the teachers who are armed.
Yeah... sure... >_>
1. A teacher could be the shooter.
2. A student could be the shooter.
3. A police officer is familiar with a phone yet as you just told me, a quick motion, pointing something towards them, etc... causes the officer to shoot. They have to decide to shoot or not in the span of a few hundred miliseconds. So no, even if they memorized the name and faces of every armed teacher in the school, they're still gonna shoot. It's how they're trained. "See what could be gun or person going for a gun - shoot." You figure out if they were gonna shoot at you after that. That's how it is if you want to live. It sucks. It's stupid. I think they should choose to die before killing but that's me.
The coach you sacrificed his life had a CCW but couldn't carry it and he was far better than any of the deputies that responded.
Yep. He was brave. Still doesn't stop my point though: Cops would have shot him.
I believe I've answered this one.
Can you point out where?