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« Reply #6160 on: September 10, 2020, 09:21:20 PM »
Glad to see Trump just picked up a nomination for Nobel Peace Prize. That's his second nomination. Remind me how many nominations Biden has.

Wow, that's a real feather in his cap.
Looks like you have to collect at least 6 tokens from cereal boxes before you can get nominated

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54092960
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« Reply #6161 on: September 10, 2020, 09:27:54 PM »
It is well acknowledged that the people who die from this are sick and old.

Well, amazingly you're actually right about something.
Let us mark the day when Tom Bishop is finally right about something.

So yeah, this thing kills old and/or sick people. But it's killed a LOT of them. A lot more than in a usual flu season

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Flu season in the US, which runs from October through May, claims tens of thousands of lives every year
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https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

The US are close to 200,000 deaths from Covid, despite the unprecedented lockdown.
And even if we agree that the exact numbers are hard to determine and that number may have been inflated, there have been a lot of excess deaths this year. Something is killing a lot of people this year. If it's not Covid then what?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6162 on: September 11, 2020, 01:14:27 AM »
Glad to see Trump just picked up a nomination for Nobel Peace Prize. That's his second nomination. Remind me how many nominations Biden has.

Wow, that's a real feather in his cap.
Looks like you have to collect at least 6 tokens from cereal boxes before you can get nominated

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54092960

With this second nomination he joins the illustrious ranks of no less than Josef Stalin! I know Thork is a fan of his.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
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« Reply #6163 on: September 11, 2020, 02:09:56 AM »
Hundreds of public figures get Nobel Peace Prize nominations every year. Any university professor or politician serving at a national level can make a nomination. There are no requirements for who can or can't be nominated; there is no "official" selection process in which some nominees are accepted and some aren't. All it takes is precisely one university professor or national-level politician that's willing to make the nomination. It's not at all extraordinary that the President of the United States, the most famous, powerful, and influential person in the world, has met this very low bar. I can't prove this, because the Nobel Committee doesn't release lists of all nominees, but I have no doubt that every president since the formation of the Nobel Prize has received at least one nomination. The president is simply too big to be ignored.

I understand why an egotistical idiot like Trump is celebrating this news as if he's already won or achieved...well, anything, and also why his staff are all presumably too afraid to try and set him straight and inevitably suffer his wrath for not telling him what he wants to hear. But for those of us living in the real world, this means nothing. Can't wait to see the angry tweetstorm from Trump when he doesn't win it, though.
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« Reply #6164 on: September 11, 2020, 05:56:01 AM »
Y'all know this is bis second nomination, yes?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6165 on: September 11, 2020, 09:29:35 AM »
From NPR News
Trump Says His Misleading Coronavirus Comments Were Meant To Show 'Strength' https://www.npr.org/2020/09/10/911608521/trump-says-his-misleading-coronavirus-comments-were-meant-to-show-strength?sc=18&f=1001


So Trump knew more than us.  He knew it was bad.  He knew it was worse than the flu.  He knew it was airborne.

And Tom and Thork just kept repeating his lies.  What now?
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« Reply #6166 on: September 11, 2020, 01:54:12 PM »
Dr. Fauci doesn't see it that way.

Not according to Dr. Fauci.



Oh no, your narrative.

Rama Set then resorted to rediculous special pleading, claiming that Trump had special president-only knowledge of the virus that the director of the NIH wasn't given.

I read the article, seems you didn’t. Fauci said based on the briefings they shared, he didn’t distort the impact. Now. This may surprise you, but POTUS would be briefed on a lot more information than Dr Fauci. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Now we have to imagine that the government kept important life-saving information about the virus a secret from the director of the NIH, the CDC, medical community, and the people who were required to respond and control a pandemic.

Trump-only knowledge, right.  ::)
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6167 on: September 11, 2020, 02:16:43 PM »
Dr. Fuci doesn't see it that way.

Not according to Dr. Fauci.



Oh no, your narrative.

Rama Set then resorted to rediculous special pleading, claiming that Trump had special president-only knowledge of the virus that the director of the NIH wasn't given.

I read the article, seems you didn’t. Fauci said based on the briefings they shared, he didn’t distort the impact. Now. This may surprise you, but POTUS would be briefed on a lot more information than Dr Fauci. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Now we have to imagine that the government kept important life-saving information about the virus a secret from the director of the NIH, the CDC, medical community, and the people who were required to respond and control a pandemic.

Trump only knowledge, right.  ::)

No.
You only need to accept that they knew but were ordered to act otherwise to 'prevent panic'.
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« Reply #6168 on: September 11, 2020, 02:42:50 PM »
It's weird that Fauci said that, because we know otherwise; it's not like we're talking about something that we don't have direct knowledge of. We all remember Trump saying not to wear masks when all the experts, including Dr Fauci, said it was important to mitigate spread of the virus. We all heard him say that it was no worse than the flu, and that it would miraculously disappear when the weather got warm. We all saw him encourage large gatherings by planning events the like of which the experts, including Dr Fauci, said would become super spreader events.

Saying he wanted to slow testing so there would be less reported cases. Rejecting millions of tests from the WHO at a time we desperately needed them. Undermining Dr Fauci and Dr Birx themselves any time they tried to express something honest about the severity of the virus . Honestly at every turn this president has transparently botched his response to this crisis.

This isn't a "narrative", it's a faithful recounting of the facts. Anyone who would suggest that Trump's handling of the coronavirus was not dangerous and fated to make things worse than they could have been is simply not in tune with reality, and if that indeed is what Dr Fauci was trying to get across that unfortunately includes him as well.
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« Reply #6169 on: September 11, 2020, 11:12:30 PM »
Dr. Fuci doesn't see it that way.

Not according to Dr. Fauci.



Oh no, your narrative.

Rama Set then resorted to rediculous special pleading, claiming that Trump had special president-only knowledge of the virus that the director of the NIH wasn't given.

I read the article, seems you didn’t. Fauci said based on the briefings they shared, he didn’t distort the impact. Now. This may surprise you, but POTUS would be briefed on a lot more information than Dr Fauci. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Now we have to imagine that the government kept important life-saving information about the virus a secret from the director of the NIH, the CDC, medical community, and the people who were required to respond and control a pandemic.

Trump only knowledge, right.  ::)

No.
You only need to accept that they knew but were ordered to act otherwise to 'prevent panic'.

Oh, so Dr. Fauci is lying too now.

Pretty weak argument. Always trying to make up facts to justify your world view.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6170 on: September 12, 2020, 02:14:59 AM »
Fauci already said he lied about the effectiveness of PPE so that people wouldn’t panic buy. We know Trump employed a tactic of lying to “prevent panic”, why would you think that line of messaging wouldn’t be encouraged?

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« Reply #6171 on: September 12, 2020, 09:31:06 PM »
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Not Flat. Happy to prove this, if you ask me.
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Nearly all flat earthers agree the earth is not a globe.

Nearly?

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« Reply #6172 on: September 12, 2020, 10:17:51 PM »
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/11/exclusive-trump-officials-interfered-with-cdc-reports-on-covid-19-412809?__twitter_impression=true

Trump officials interfered with CDC reports on COVID-19
Honestly, this is kinda obvious.  No real proof needed, we all knew it was happening.
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« Reply #6173 on: September 15, 2020, 11:52:48 PM »
Not a political sign in sight, yet we can be almost certain of who they are voting for. So strange. Why is that?


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« Reply #6174 on: September 16, 2020, 12:41:21 AM »
https://thedonald.win/p/HEud914I/not-a-political-sign-in-sight-an/c/

You barely even changed the wording. Were any of your shitty memes original, or were they all stolen from Trump bootlickers?
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« Reply #6175 on: September 16, 2020, 01:31:18 AM »
"You have to be the author of all shared political memes you post or paraphrase, or else your point is invalid." —A liberal loser's argument

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« Reply #6176 on: September 16, 2020, 02:00:56 AM »
"You have to be the author of all shared political memes you post or paraphrase, or else your point is invalid." —A liberal loser's argument

You mean how you shit on Biden for not having 100% original content?

Meanwhile Trump’s ICE is committing atrocities on detainees.

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« Reply #6177 on: September 16, 2020, 05:58:00 AM »
Well, odds are the original poster is posting house and given where its from, thats all we need.

However, if it isn't his home then its certainly not Trump.

Trump supporters always show their trump signs, hats, shirts, stickers, etc...  Its almost required to buy Trump Merch.  And they proudly display it.  So... No.  They are not.

Of course that pic could also be from a time before Trump.

And I was right.

https://ameblo.jp/keilovesfelder/entry-11771782073.html

While the original creation of the image is unknown, it was taken at least in 2014.  So...  twist tha.
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« Reply #6178 on: September 16, 2020, 08:06:03 AM »
Trump continuing to say any old random shit that pops into his head, even if it contradicts previous random shit that popped into his head

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54172311
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« Reply #6179 on: September 16, 2020, 09:00:15 AM »
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While the original creation of the image is unknown, it was taken at least in 2014.  So...  twist tha.

Twist what? It's a picture of a house with flags on it. Those exist. This is like your argument that I need to post a picture of American looters to make a comment about looters and thugs.

Just another avoidance argument, and not an actual response or rebuttal to the content.