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What’s going on in Sweden
« on: April 18, 2021, 10:11:34 AM »
I thought Sweden was a model country for quality of life. I wonder what’s going on over there. Do you think a lot of white Swedish men just can’t get any tang, or is something more sinister being hidden from us? 🤔


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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2021, 10:28:36 AM »
Yup, its sinister alright. And no, they won't look into the reasons why because they know they won't like the answers.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-019-00436-8

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-s-refugee-crisis

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2021, 11:30:09 AM »
Yup, its sinister alright. And no, they won't look into the reasons why because they know they won't like the answers.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-019-00436-8

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-s-refugee-crisis

Why isn't Norway or Denmark, both if which have alot of refugees, on that list?
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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2021, 11:41:09 AM »
Why isn't Norway or Denmark, both if which have alot of refugees, on that list?

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2021, 12:12:23 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sweden-crime-rape-law-trfn-idUSKBN23T2R3
Basically: Sweden changed the law in 2018 to define rape as any non-conscentual sex with no requirement to force or coerce.  And as a result, rape convictions shot up 75%.


As for you, Thork....

Makes sense.  But correlation does not equal causation. 



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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2021, 02:49:24 PM »
As for you, Thork....

Makes sense.  But correlation does not equal causation.

58% of all 843 convicted rapists in Sweden are immigrants (2013-2018)



https://nuntiussweden.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/58-of-all-convicted-rapists-in-sweden-are-immigrants/
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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2021, 05:04:16 PM »
I link you a scientific paper from springer. You respond with an opinion piece from some leftist rag.  ???
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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2021, 05:51:13 PM »
I link you a scientific paper from springer. You respond with an opinion piece from some leftist rag.  ???

You linked a wordpress page talking about an investigative tv show's findings.
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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2021, 05:53:45 PM »
I link you a scientific paper from springer. You respond with an opinion piece from some leftist rag.  ???

You linked a wordpress page talking about an investigative tv show's findings.

So I went with a scientific paper and investigative journalists ... and you went with a blog post. I want more from you Lord Dave.
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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2021, 06:09:46 PM »
As for you, Thork....

Makes sense.  But correlation does not equal causation.

58% of all 843 convicted rapists in Sweden are immigrants (2013-2018)



https://nuntiussweden.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/58-of-all-convicted-rapists-in-sweden-are-immigrants/

Do you have issues with math? If 49% of convictions are Swedes 58% is not the remainder. Maybe have another look at what you’ve read and make sure you actually understand it. Or maybe don’t trust the source since they seem to be struggling with how they present their data.

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2021, 06:19:01 PM »
Do you have issues with math? If 49% of convictions are Swedes 58% is not the remainder. Maybe have another look at what you’ve read and make sure you actually understand it.
How about you click the link and read the article? Being as that seems too hard, would you be able to read the headline on a screenshot?



I'll let you figure out how a foreign born perpetrator could possibly be counted as a Swede.  ::)



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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2021, 06:27:41 PM »
There's also the fact that a lot of these third world countries have much higher rates of rape than Western/Northern European countries. One can infer that a high rape rate population moving into a low rape rate population will increase the rape rate there. Some cultures aren't as good as others.

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2021, 07:28:29 PM »
Some cultures aren't as good as others.

This is the main takeaway. Any culture rooted in an Abrahamic religion will see atrocities such as this.

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2021, 08:42:42 PM »
Do you have issues with math? If 49% of convictions are Swedes 58% is not the remainder. Maybe have another look at what you’ve read and make sure you actually understand it.
How about you click the link and read the article? Being as that seems too hard, would you be able to read the headline on a screenshot?



I'll let you figure out how a foreign born perpetrator could possibly be counted as a Swede.  ::)

I did read it. No where do they mention anywhere about 7% of Swedes having been naturalized citizens. Great source 👍🏻

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2021, 09:29:57 PM »
I did read it. No where do they mention anywhere about 7% of Swedes having been naturalized citizens. Great source 👍🏻
You're not even trying. That data comes from an investigative program in Sweden about it, and it matches the scientific paper I linked. But just keep writing nuh-uh with zero sources and see how much effort I put into rebutting it.

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2021, 09:46:07 PM »
I did read it. No where do they mention anywhere about 7% of Swedes having been naturalized citizens. Great source 👍🏻
You're not even trying. That data comes from an investigative program in Sweden about it, and it matches the scientific paper I linked. But just keep writing nuh-uh with zero sources and see how much effort I put into rebutting it.

I did, and the paper doesn’t match the numbers in that pie chart and the paper says naturalization isn’t take in to account in their figures.

Your article, not scientific paper, also says they just ignored socio-economic factors, which it admits is important but too complex for them. So it seems impossible to attribute this to your cultural chauvinism that you adore.

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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2021, 02:06:33 AM »
Why isn't Norway or Denmark, both if which have alot of refugees, on that list?




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Re: What’s going on in Sweden
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2021, 03:29:21 AM »
I link you a scientific paper from springer. You respond with an opinion piece from some leftist rag.  ???

You linked a wordpress page talking about an investigative tv show's findings.

So I went with a scientific paper and investigative journalists ... and you went with a blog post. I want more from you Lord Dave.

Know whats funny?
At no point am I disputing your posts or facts. 
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.