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Aliunz and SETI
« on: July 13, 2018, 04:55:35 AM »
Why is SETI wasting time and money looking for aliens in the radio spectrum? Is it just a front to buy time until a better technology comes around (like Laser Seti) so they don't get put on the chopping block? Because the only way we'd ever pick up an alien radio transmission is if it was a massively boosted signal aimed right at us. And that doesn't seem like it will ever happen unless aliens knew we were capable of receiving it, or knew that there was intelligent life here at all. Because an errant radio transmission from one of their tv shows or military things would be indistinguishable from background noise by the time it got to us unless they were within dozens of light years. Aliens could be within 100-500 light years and we would probably never even know it.
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Re: Aliunz and SETI
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 09:53:59 AM »
Why is SETI wasting time and money
Has SETI ever done anything else? For all the money lavished on it, how many aliens have they found? The ROI on dollars to aliens is not good.

Forget your feelings on whether moan hoaxes are a thing or not, SETI is and has always been a propaganda exercise. It is the place Hollywood meets the space agency ...
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Re: Aliunz and SETI
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 02:25:11 PM »
Just as an FYI, SETI does not receive any government funding, only private donations.  If people want to waste their money looking for alien radio signals that may not exist, then why should anyone care?
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Re: Aliunz and SETI
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 04:17:32 PM »
NASA created SETI. They are only non-governmentally funded because congress thought it was not appropriate for NASA to run it.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40571205/is-seti-getting-nasa-funding-dont-get-too-excited-yet

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NASA launched SETI in 1992, building two massive radio telescopes—one in Puerto Rico, the other in California—with the mission to comb the universe looking for signs of life, or at least technology. Just a year later, though, the project was pulled by Nevada Sen. Richard Bryan, and the SETI Institute hasn’t received NASA funding since. That could all change, though, thanks to a new bill making its way through the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Re: Aliunz and SETI
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 04:32:58 PM »
NASA created SETI. They are only non-governmentally funded because congress thought it was not appropriate for NASA to run it.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40571205/is-seti-getting-nasa-funding-dont-get-too-excited-yet

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NASA launched SETI in 1992, building two massive radio telescopes—one in Puerto Rico, the other in California—with the mission to comb the universe looking for signs of life, or at least technology. Just a year later, though, the project was pulled by Nevada Sen. Richard Bryan, and the SETI Institute hasn’t received NASA funding since. That could all change, though, thanks to a new bill making its way through the U.S. House of Representatives.

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While it’s an exciting development, the scientists at the SETI Institute aren’t jumping for joy quite yet: “This is an authorization bill, not an appropriations bill,” Dr. Jill Tarter told Fast Company. “Even if it passes, the appropriators may not provide any SETI funding in their bill. But if they do, that would be a very big deal.”
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