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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting...
« on: November 21, 2017, 03:15:46 PM »We need our guns. In 1970, .gov troops fired M1 Garands loaded with 30-06 rounds with 150 grain spitzer bullets capable of speeds of 2900 fps. Weapon holds 10 rounds. In just 13 seconds, 67 rounds killed or injured 13 unarmed Kent State students, all of which were in good standing with the college. Today a surplus M1 Garand will set you back $1,000 used in fair condition. Most these students were mowed down at a distance of 100 yards.
In contrast a surplus Russian made Mosin Nagant made from the turn of century 1900, firing a 7.62 x54r round same 150 grain 2900+ would have set you back about $79 just a few years ago. Weapon holds 5 rounds. The vodka drinking farm people were given these weapons to defend the home land, such as our constitution requires a militia and right to bear arms. These vodka drinkers farmers should and could have practiced to be semi prolific at a shot some 400 yards. Steel ammo will penetrate most body armor today from these babies and like the 30-06 it's a devastating round.
Fast forward to the Bundy Ranch Standoff where both sides had AR-15's. The constitution works and most the players have beaten the Feds in court over this ordeal. Jurys have said .Gov stand down.
Thank you but I'll keep my weapons and carry in as many places it's legal.
I'm all for taking weapons out of the hands of mental cases or felons, know any?
I'm puzzled as to what you're arguing here. If the protesters at Kent State had been armed, it's a near-certainty that even more of them would have been killed. And if the Bundy protesters hadn't been armed, there never would have been any real fear of the government killing them to begin with. They would have been arrested quickly and quietly, and they would have had their day in court just like they are now. It's because of changing times that one protest ended with bloodshed and the other peacefully in court, not because one was armed and the other wasn't.
It's called Freedom and a rifle is a great equalizer in seeing I shall always be free. For $79 you too could have solidified your alienable rights to this Freedom. No herding you into cattle cars or marching you into a killing field.
I disagree with your conclusions, if in fact the students were armed there would have been negotiations just as all powers today with nukes are treated differently than non nuclear countries. The Bundy folks were armed and owned the fight till the bitter end.
The numbers are all skewed, some of us own enough weapons to arm ourselves many times over and than some.
If the cost of FREEDOM is some must die, I choose Freedom. It's like faith in Jesus Christ, once you truly own it, ya ain't giving it back, under any circumstance.