If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.
Where was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?
Gays=Liberals=Bad Guys
This is the largest terrorist attack since 9/11. Very unfortunate.Quote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?Quote from: Rama Set on June 12, 2016, 03:23:50 PMGays=Liberals=Bad GuysThey don't equal bad guys, but they do equal people that are extremely likely not to be carrying a gun. If you're a "guns should be banned" liberal it'd be awfully stupid to insist on carrying one around.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
Is there any actual correlation between being gay and opinion on gun control, or are you assuming that being gay=being liberal=having all liberal views?
Do you have any relevant data on the subject?
Also, I don't recall myself making any assumptions in my post.
Quote from: Rushy on June 12, 2016, 06:09:53 PMDo you have any relevant data on the subject?I was hoping you did. QuoteAlso, I don't recall myself making any assumptions in my post.Oh ok.
How many liberals actually carry?
Quote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?How many liberals actually carry? Here's a question, do you carry? If you was there would you have carried?
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:57 PMHow many liberals actually carry?Liberals in rural areas often have firearms because certain wildlife can sometimes be a threat. Orlando obviously isn't a rural area, though.
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:57 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?How many liberals actually carry? Here's a question, do you carry? If you was there would you have carried?What was the proportion of "liberals" to "conservatives" in the night club? How many "conservatives" were carrying? QuoteHow many conservatives go to gay bars? QuoteI think Dave's point is a rhetorical one against the narrative that gun deregulation leads to less gun violence.Yes it will if more people were carrying.Quote In certain cases it may be true, but if someone is determined to carry out an attack of this sort, availability of assault rifles is not going to keep people safe.He didn't used an assault rifle he used a semi auto one. Also the VT shooter had ten round mags and pistols and he committed the second largest shooting in American history.
How many conservatives go to gay bars? QuoteI think Dave's point is a rhetorical one against the narrative that gun deregulation leads to less gun violence.Yes it will if more people were carrying.Quote In certain cases it may be true, but if someone is determined to carry out an attack of this sort, availability of assault rifles is not going to keep people safe.He didn't used an assault rifle he used a semi auto one. Also the VT shooter had ten round mags and pistols and he committed the second largest shooting in American history.
I think Dave's point is a rhetorical one against the narrative that gun deregulation leads to less gun violence.
In certain cases it may be true, but if someone is determined to carry out an attack of this sort, availability of assault rifles is not going to keep people safe.
Quote from: Rama Set on June 13, 2016, 08:45:47 PMQuote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:57 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?How many liberals actually carry? Here's a question, do you carry? If you was there would you have carried?What was the proportion of "liberals" to "conservatives" in the night club? How many "conservatives" were carrying? How many conservatives go to gay bars?
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:57 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?How many liberals actually carry? Here's a question, do you carry? If you was there would you have carried?What was the proportion of "liberals" to "conservatives" in the night club? How many "conservatives" were carrying?
QuoteI think Dave's point is a rhetorical one against the narrative that gun deregulation leads to less gun violence.Yes it will if more people were carrying.
Quote In certain cases it may be true, but if someone is determined to carry out an attack of this sort, availability of assault rifles is not going to keep people safe.He didn't used an assault rifle he used a semi auto one. Also the VT shooter had ten round mags and pistols and he committed the second largest shooting in American history.
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 09:18:50 PMQuote from: Rama Set on June 13, 2016, 08:45:47 PMQuote from: Luke 22:35-38 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:57 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on June 12, 2016, 03:12:02 PMWhere was the good guy with a gun the NRA always promises us?How many liberals actually carry? Here's a question, do you carry? If you was there would you have carried?What was the proportion of "liberals" to "conservatives" in the night club? How many "conservatives" were carrying? How many conservatives go to gay bars? I have no idea. Is there a punchline? Is this whole line of questioning relevant somehow?
QuoteQuoteI think Dave's point is a rhetorical one against the narrative that gun deregulation leads to less gun violence.Yes it will if more people were carrying.Citation required.
QuoteQuote In certain cases it may be true, but if someone is determined to carry out an attack of this sort, availability of assault rifles is not going to keep people safe.He didn't used an assault rifle he used a semi auto one. Also the VT shooter had ten round mags and pistols and he committed the second largest shooting in American history.I didn't specify it was automatic, did I?