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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Appearance of the sun
« on: March 28, 2023, 11:17:15 PM »See bolded:So what is the light source? The sun? Yes
Then what is projecting the sun image on to the atmoplane? The Sun does. The Sun "projects" light like the fire in the cave example.
Then take the moon projection. With your shadow puppet in a cave analogy, the Sun (which we don't know how it is projected The Sun projects it light upon the atmolayer) is the fire. Some sort of image of the Moon is the shadow puppet hands. And the shadow puppet hands/moon image is then cast on the cave wall/atmoplane.
- So where is the shadow puppet hands/moon image source located? The source is the physical body of the Moon, which also projects (reflected) light rays from it like the Sun
- And how does the projection create the moon wobble? Unrelated
- And how does the projection create the solar flares? Unrelated
- And depending upon where I'm standing on the plane, wouldn't these projected images look distorted in different ways. Much like if I'm way to the left in the front row of a movie theater as opposed to being in the middle of the back row? The projection is made on a section of atmosphere between your eyes and the Sun. It's personal to you. You therefore cannot look at it from another angle.Quote from: stackThe sun does not appear to change in size. Does FE address solar filter images/video as opposed to polarizing filter images/video?
Yes, solar filters are discussed on the Wiki page:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Magnification_of_the_Sun_at_Sunset#Questions_and_AnswersQ: Shouldn't a Solar Filter restore the sun to its actual state?
A: The principle behind a Solar Filter is the same as the principle behind a pair of sunglasses. It dims the scene for eye safety. The effect is a projection of light upon the atmolayer. Neither sunglasses or solar filters eliminate projections or reflections of light. Would wearing a pair of sunglasses eliminate the reflection of the sun off of the side of a car? Would a pair of sunglasses eliminate or shrink the projection on a movie screen inside of a movie theater?
Oops, sorry, I missed the Q & A at the end.
Yes, solar filters block a lot of light. Yes. Polarizing filters aren't just light blockers, per se. Polarized Filters are different than Solar Filters. They work by diffusing light waves in specific directions, like horizontally and vertically. That's why when you rotate one you get a different effect. This is referring to Polarized Filters, not Solar Filters. Polarized lenses are discussed at https://wiki.tfes.org/Magnification_of_the_Sun_at_Sunset#Polarized_Lens_Example
There are basically two kinds of Solar Filters, White Light and Hydrogen alpha (Ha). The former blocks like 99% of the light so you can see the sun surface and Ha filters block everything except for the wavelength created by hydrogen atoms. So you can see flares and such.
Even from the Answer in the Q & A, I still don't see how it's addressing the fact that with a solar filter the sun does not observably change size. In your analogy if the projection of the sun on the side of a car and that car is 20 meters away and there's another car with the same projection 2 meters away, the projected image will be smaller on the far away car than on the close car. That's not what we observe with the celestial bodies. The projected celestial bodies should get smaller as they move away from us. They don't. A Solar Filter cannot remove a projection or reflection of light, only dim it. If the projection is magnified it's not going to reveal the true size of the source light, just like a pair of sunglasses can't remove a projection of a movie projection. If the movie screen were a semi-transparent sheet, standing on the other side if the sheet with a pair of sunglasses would not reveal the true size of the light source. The projection could be of various sizes upon the semi-transparent screen, and the sunglasses will not reveal the true size of the light source.
I guess I still don't get it. When I'm looking at the moon is it not the moon, but a projection of the moon?
As for filters and such, the point being, whether magnified or not, the sun doesn't change size as it arcs from sunrise to sunset and it should if it's moving away from the observer. As well, the atmolayer isn't a 2D movie screen. It's a thick 3D soup filling the space above the earth.



