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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: What is the true map of the earth?
« on: May 14, 2024, 10:42:20 AM »The quote from Maggie teneva (who she?) is simply a throwaway line at the end of an article about entertaining your kids on longhaul.
Are you claiming that she is joking? She is clearly not, even if the article is about childcare on an airplane. It is not a satire article. She is known as a travel writer. penncapital-star.com -- "Travel writer Maggie Teneva posits these and other benefits derived from exploring the world outside our own cocoons"
The "stopping for fuel" link doesn't go anywhere.
Did you try googling the text?
I got results for the page and was able to put it into web archive to see the content: https://web.archive.org/web/20120114084248/http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203436904577152974098241982.html
The Continental Airlines example is undated, has no reference, and (if true) sounds like poor planning by the airline in not using aircraft with apprpriate capacity/range.
Well yes, that's what the article says. The planes were traveling a distance within the distance of the Boeing 757's 4100 miles range. The planes were within their range, but still ran out of fuel. This proves that the flights as they are claimed to exist are dependent on a balance of physical phenomena.
Here is a related graphic:
ETOPS is not a restriction; it is a relaxation of previously existing routes that require aircraft to route within 1-hour flying time of a suitable diversion airfield. In the case of the Airbus A350, this can now be extended to 5hrs 30min at single engine cruise speed (frightening but true), meaning that only Antarctica is off limits (unless, of course, one of the ice-runways is the destination).
The USAF, being outwith ICAO regulations, is not limited by ETOPS. The United States maintains "landing strips on certain uninhabited islands in remote locations" for military operational, security and diplomatic purposes.
Aircraft often divert from route for reasons of security, medical or technical emergency, but beyond the apocryphal stements you have made, I challenge you to identify a single recent occurance made purely for a splash and dash. Any commercial aircraft diverting from its planned route purely for a fuel stop would find its captain and dispatcher having a series of one-way conversations with management.
Planes also make ETOPS stops when they run out of fuel due to winds. According to the above graphic, there were 14 Continental trans-Atlantic non-stops stopping for fuel between Jan 1 to Jan 8, 2012. They took off and thought they had enough fuel according to weather radar, but were mistaken on how the wind conditions would change.
And yes, jetstreams are a perpetual phenomenon, but no they are not alway at the extreme stengthsyou suggest, and almost without excdeption are a west-to-east direction. Apart from local eddies there is absolutely no, general, assistance, anywhere on Earth, to westbound travel.
Incorrect. Maps of the Trade-winds show that winds can travel in both Easterly and Westerly directions in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres:
Your statement "Flights are canceled all the time, especially long haul flights" is simply untrue. For example, I've just looked at data on FR24 for LATAM's Santiago-Melbourne service LA804/805; run with a Boeing 787 Dreamliner. The service operates 3 times a week in each direction and between 15 Feb and today, 12 weeks, 36 planned return trips; one cancellation.
This is covered on the https://wiki.tfes.org/Issues_in_Flight_Analysis page
Terminology
Airliners call a cancelled flight "rescheduled":
“ How often are flights cancelled/diverted?
Not often. Flights are more often rescheduled than cancelled or diverted. In the event that a flight is cancelled whether under the airline's control or caused by a severe weather or air traffic disruptions, many airlines will rebook your flight or cancel your remaining flight(s). ”
Removed
Oh Great: United Airlines Redefines “Cancelled” - Suggests that cancelled flights are alternatively called "removed" to improve cancellation stats.