[Action80]

Given all we now know about the lies we were fed, why do we allow this bullcrap to continue?

[Dual1ty]

Never forget...

That the vaxxed damaged themselves for no reason.

[Lord Dave]

Never forget...

That the vaxxed damaged themselves for no reason.

Did we?
I feel fine.  How am I damaged?

[Dual1ty]

Never forget...

That the vaxxed damaged themselves for no reason.

Did we?
I feel fine.  How am I damaged?

All vaccines are subtle poisons. Which means they will affect every person differently.

But define "fine". Did/Do you feel like a million bucks every day since you took your injections?

[Shane]

I feel immortal after my injections

[Dual1ty]

I feel immortal after my injections

You a slammer, huh?

[Dr Van Nostrand]

I feel a lot better than this anti vaxxer I know who almost died from covid. He's never been the same person.

[Dual1ty]

I feel a lot better than this anti vaxxer I know who almost died from covid. He's never been the same person.

Oh yea I'm sure you know Magufuli died from "covid" too.

All you have to do is believe it, facts don't matter.

[honk]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

[Dual1ty]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

Nope, I wasn't wrong because I was never behind the "wait and see" or the lethality argument (some people did die from it, though). I knew they were going to have plausible deniability in the eyes of the sheep just like with any vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion. If you truly feel 100% and know that you are 100% fertile, you should be thankful because others weren't so lucky.

and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed.

Just a lie.

[Roundy]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion.

Not an opinion.

[Lord Dave]

Never forget...

That the vaxxed damaged themselves for no reason.

Did we?
I feel fine.  How am I damaged?

All vaccines are subtle poisons. Which means they will affect every person differently.

But define "fine". Did/Do you feel like a million bucks every day since you took your injections?

I feel like an out of shape 40 year old.
Which is my definition of fine.

[Lord Dave]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

Nope, I wasn't wrong because I was never behind the "wait and see" or the lethality argument. I knew they were going to have plausible deniability in the eyes of the sheep just like with any vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion. If you truly feel 100% and know that you are 100% fertile, you should be thankful because others weren't so lucky.

and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed.

Just a lie.

Fyi:
My wife and I are 100% fertile after the vaccine.  I have a 1 month old to prove it.

The better question is: do you have someone who became i fertile without reason after the vaccine?

[Dual1ty]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion.

Not an opinion.

Yes, it is an opinion, because if I get poisoned right now with anything, my body will react and it will get rid of the poison (or at least it will try). Therefore, if I didn't get harmed it's because my body did its job, not because I didn't get poisoned. That's also why vaccines are unneeded, even if they worked.

Fyi:
My wife and I are 100% fertile after the vaccine.  I have a 1 month old to prove it.

The better question is: do you have someone who became i fertile without reason after the vaccine?

I didn't say infertile. 100% fertility is rare nowadays. There's a whole range between 0 and 100% fertility. The fact that you had a baby does not mean 100% fertility.

[Roundy]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion.

Not an opinion.

Yes, it is an opinion, because if I get poisoned right now with anything, my body will react and it will get rid of the poison (or at least it will try). Therefore, if I didn't get harmed it's because my body did its job, not because I didn't get poisoned. That's also why vaccines are unneeded, even if they worked.

Whatever you want to think is fine, you can do what you want as far as I'm concerned, but what honk said was not an opinion. It was a statement of fact.

[Dual1ty]

Whatever you want to think is fine, you can do what you want as far as I'm concerned, but what honk said was not an opinion. It was a statement of fact.

Except it's not. That's why the pharmaceutical companies have literally paid billions over the years to vaccine-damaged people. For example through this program:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program

You thinking that your beliefs are factual is kinda cute. Especially considering all the info out there that contradicts your beliefs.

[honk]

Nobody claimed that all vaccines ever made have all been 100% safe and have never led to any adverse effects. Any common medical practice or procedure will occasionally result in adverse effects. That is not any kind of vindication for the conspiracy theorists who claimed that there was a sinister agenda behind the covid vaccine and that it would lead to widespread deaths, injuries, and sterility. It's been three years since the vaccine came out, and if it was supposed to do something bad to us, it would have taken effect by now, and on such a scale that it would be impossible not to recognize. Nothing of the sort happened. We're fine. Whatever bad thing the government might be planning for us, the covid vaccine simply wasn't it.

[Lord Dave]

The vaccine was fine. We haven't been poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all, and have fared far better against covid than the unvaxed. This isn't a "wait and see" thing. We've already waited and seen. You guys were wrong about the vaccine.

If you think you haven't been "poisoned, sterilized, or harmed at all", that's your opinion.

Not an opinion.

Yes, it is an opinion, because if I get poisoned right now with anything, my body will react and it will get rid of the poison (or at least it will try). Therefore, if I didn't get harmed it's because my body did its job, not because I didn't get poisoned. That's also why vaccines are unneeded, even if they worked.

Fyi:
My wife and I are 100% fertile after the vaccine.  I have a 1 month old to prove it.

The better question is: do you have someone who became i fertile without reason after the vaccine?

I didn't say infertile. 100% fertility is rare nowadays. There's a whole range between 0 and 100% fertility. The fact that you had a baby does not mean 100% fertility.

Ok you're gonna have to explain how one can be 50% fertile.  What, is half my sperm dead or something?

[Dual1ty]

Nobody claimed that all vaccines ever made have all been 100% safe and have never led to any adverse effects. Any common medical practice or procedure will occasionally result in adverse effects. That is not any kind of vindication for the conspiracy theorists who claimed that there was a sinister agenda behind the covid vaccine and that it would lead to widespread deaths, injuries, and sterility. It's been three years since the vaccine came out, and if it was supposed to do something bad to us, we would have taken effect by now, and on such a scale that it would be impossible not to recognize. Nothing of the sort happened. We're fine. Whatever bad thing the government might be planning for us, the covid vaccine simply wasn't it.

So vaccines are not 100% safe, but miraculously all the COVID-related ones are? I am claiming that no vaccine is safe and I stand by that claim. Believing there is a 100% safe vaccine out there is hopeful ignorance, and also unscientific.

And, you are dead wrong that they did no damage. But people are largely in denial that it was the vaccines that caused their medical problems (or death of loved ones, in some cases) and blame anything else instead, including COVID. Not everybody, though, which means you are unaware of what's going on.

Ok you're gonna have to explain how one can be 50% fertile.  What, is half my sperm dead or something?

You're gonna have to do a sperm count test to know that one. It's also supposed to analyze the quality and not just the quantity.

Also, probably unrelated to fertility, but I would check for blood clots if I were you. Not medical advice, though.

[Pete Svarrior]

So vaccines are not 100% safe, but miraculously all the COVID-related ones are?

No, there have been some rare side effects, iirc the most common was myocarditis, although the conspiracy theorists seem to really focus on the much rarer and less serious VTE/blood clots, which also occur at abnormal rates after going through COVID itself. Why did they focus on blood clots instead of the more obvious side effect? Who knows? Presumably the propagandists thought it was scarier/easier to spread FUD around.

I am claiming that no vaccine is safe and I stand by that claim. Believing there is a 100% safe vaccine out there is hopeful ignorance, and also unscientific.

I'm not sure you'll find anyone arguing for vaccines being 100% safe. They are simply, on the balance of probabilties, much safer than the diseases they mitigate. And when things do go wrong, the medical industry have a duty to provide appropriate compensation, thus providing them with an added incentive not to fuck up.