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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How to explain Midnight sun/No sun?
« on: October 28, 2021, 05:49:11 PM »
Incorrect - https://wiki.tfes.org/Bi-Polar_Model
Aw, that's a bit cute!
How would you sail from Indonesia to Ecuador?
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Incorrect - https://wiki.tfes.org/Bi-Polar_Model
It's difficult to find direct demonstration for anything related to this. The best I can tell you is that there are two FE theories.
Monopole Model -
Traditional Flat Earth model. The lines of longitude diverge in the South greater than assumed. It would mean that the content linked on this page would need to be true:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Distances_in_the_South
Bi-Polar Model -
The lines of longitude do converge together in the South:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Bi-Polar_Model
Has there been any proof of North South Circumnavigation yet ? Whether on a boat or a plane ?Your research is sadly lacking;
Circumnavigation based on my research has always been going West or going East.
Let's cut our distance in half, going from 3000 miles away and a 45° angle, to 1500 miles away, and a 67.5° angle. This gives us a sun height of... 3621 miles. Oh. Well that's quite a bit different isn't it? Well how about if we go the other direction. Halfway from 45° to 0°, giving us an angle of 22.5° and a distance of 4500 miles. This gives us a sun height of.... 1864 miles. Oh dear, that's even more out of whack than our first one.
Who went out and made those observations of where the sun is at those latitudes on that day?
No one else observed the sun's elevation at the solstice?
The geometry is quite interesting. I'm about 77.25° North of the Tropic of Capricorn. Each degree is 60 Nautical miles which works out that I'm 5334 miles North of the Tropic of Capricorn. Using trigonometry to calculate the vertical height of the sun above the Tropic on a flat plane, 5334*tan(13) = 1234. That doesn't fit with a 3000 mile height of the sun above a flat plane.
The 13° elevation does fit with the 77° angle between the Tropic and my location on a globe with a far distant sun (ok, I might have been 1/4 of a degree off in my measurement of the sun's elevation)
I'm not sure how to plot a course exactly. I suspect it could be done but the distances probably wouldn't match reality. I don't know what the explanation for that is. Also, in the bipolar map I suspect you would get a complicated set of points of longitude/latitude that don't match reality. If you plot the course on the Globe map I will use your example as a pattern and try it on one or both of the flat earth models.The simplest course is a Rhumb Line course. That is a course of a constant compass heading.
Most common FE map:Useless for navigation.
Another model:Even more useless than the one above.
What latitude ring is the sun orbiting on 12/12/16?This is from a very much Globe Earth site NOAA ESRL, Solar Position Calculator.
It is a "fiddly" to use for this purpose, but I think you will find that
on 12/Dec/16, the sun was directly over Lat 23.13°S and
on 21/Dec/16, the sun will be directly over Lat 23.44°S, that is, the Tropic of Capricorn.
But the answers from the Flat Earth calculations would I imagine lead to the same result.
This isn't a photographic error. It is a reflection from the firmament that can be seen with the naked eye.
http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/planetary_alignment_decreases_gravityQuoteDuring an interview on BBC Radio 2, on the morning of April 1, 1976, the British astronomer Patrick Moore announced that an extraordinary astronomical event was about to occur.
At 9:47, Moore declared, "Jump now!" A minute passed, and then the BBC switchboard lit up with dozens of people calling in to report that the experiment had worked!
Is it a wonder the general public will believe anything they are told?
Have you not noticed that the moon rises almost an hour later each day? This cartoon shows the sun and moon in constant opposition.Why is the centre and outside of the map cold? Is it something to do with how the sun heats or unrelated?Yep. Look at the path of the sun.
Do other planets like Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc. exist? And if so, are they also flat?
Yes. Many of your questions are answered in the wiki:
http://wiki.tfes.org/Planets
Rotundity
Q. If the planets are round, why isn't the earth?
A. The earth is not a planet.
Size and Magnitude
Q. How big are the planets in the FE model?
A. Pretty small.
Solar System
Q. What does the Solar System look like in FET?
A. In FET the planets are revolving around the sun, while the sun itself revolves around the Northern Hub.
Retrograde Motion
Q. Why do planets retrograde in the sky?
A. Retrograde motion occurs from the fact that the planets are revolving around the sun while the sun itself moves around the hub of the earth. This particular path the planets take makes it appear as if several of them make a loop along their journeys across the night sky.
Please note that the planets are moving very slowly around the sun and would not retrograde several times a day as might be implied by the above diagram. The diagram is for illustration purposes only. Several retrogrades a year would be more appropriate, depending on the planet.
The retrograde happens very slowly in the night sky, over a long period of time.
You are asking questions that require imagination. We are all acknowledging that nobody knows for certain.
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For certain, we are not on a globe.
Hello!
I am new to this forum. I searched for the word satellite first and had no hits, so if there is already a thread in this, please excuse me.
My question or should I say observation is:
1) We all know there are satellites in space for communication, military, weather...
2) There is supposed to be space junk or debris
Then, why don't we see them in pictures or videos?
It's regular and predictable enough for next year's tide tables to be published now and yet still be accurate all through next year.Is there a flat Earth diagram that explain the Moon's motion around the flat Earth with it's inclination to the equator, changing size each month, moving different speeds with the Sun and relations of it's phase with it's position relative to the Sun?Are you expecting the motion of the moon to be regular and or predictable?