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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 02, 2020, 01:17:09 PM »
Lots of speculation around that DJT could just be bluffing to duck out of subsequent debates with Biden.

Social media is a hell of a drug. Is anyone credible saying that? Trump getting COVID after all the rallies he has been attending without wearing a mask this infection shouldn’t be a surprise.

Incidentally, the mortality rate for Trump’s age and weight is around 20%. 20%... 2020... Spooooooky.

It's all over the news this morning, so it's more than just Trump rattling off his ass, but I can't help but think it's some kind of underhanded trickery with some crazy agenda.

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All sides are in the wrong. He never should have gone. He never should have been chased by a handgun wielding mob.

Bringing a gun to any of these protests is just plain idiotic, and unequivocally foolish - the lack of cognition demonstrated by this country is really astonishing. You can't go into a setting like that yielding a weapon, and not expect something bad to happen.

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Cops admit vandalizing cars of man who filed complaint against them, prosecutor says

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“Spiteful retaliation from law enforcement officers towards a citizen for any reason is an unacceptable option. This is in no way condoned at any level, for any reason,” Gramiccioni said in the statement. “All members of the law enforcement community must maintain the public’s trust by conducting themselves at the highest level of integrity and decency.”

Authorities say the men wore disguises when they rode their bikes to the vehicles in Ocean Grove and Asbury Park, smashed out the windows and slashed all the tires on Sept. 3 between 3 and 4 a.m.

The vehicles belonged to Ernest G. Mignoli, an outspoken Asbury Park resident critical of the city’s police department. Mignoli, 70, had filed an administrative complaint against both officers several days before the incidents. His “jaw dropped” when he learned that the people responsible for damaging his white Jeep Liberty and Toyota Prius were police officers, he said in an interview with NJ Advance Media last year.

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2020/08/cops-admit-vandalizing-cars-of-man-who-filed-complaint-against-them-prosecutor-says.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

September 3rd? Did they mean August 3rd?

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Well I'm old and take 1100 mg C, stay in hot hot sun while taking my Vit D 100% /100% zinc

What's Covid? Oh that mask sheet.

You do realize that taking these vitamins will help anyone generally stay healthy from any number of ailments and diseases. It’s not a magical cure for covid.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: August 12, 2020, 05:01:37 PM »
Bullshit aside.....

Riiiight. I'm calling out the POTUS for being a tyrant when he has demonstrated tyrant mentality
Tyrant mentality? Is that a thought crime? You are saying he hasn't actually been a tyrant ... but he said things you don't like and suspect might be a bit tyranty because you don't know what a tyrant is.  ::)

You keep using that word tyrant, don't you? Despite admitting you have zero proof.

He is a tyrant. He has been restricted in his ability to act on this because of the American process - thank god.

He has shown his ability to be a tyrant in his first few months in office when he separated children from their parents because their parents didn't have the right to be in the country - the children, on the other hand were innocent, and they were immorally oppressed by the POTUS.

Along those same lines, Trump has called for "foreigners" to leave the country time and time again. He is doing it now with international students by sending them home if they can't otherwise be present for classes due to coronavirus - oppression.

Trump has taken rights from the American people when he used federal police officers to illegally remove citizens from expressing their constitutional rights.

This is all oppression.

Trump has made statements about his "total authority", truly believing that he is the be all, end all. He would exercise this delusion if he could.

The fact that Trump has been held accountable by the American process has prevented him from becoming full-fledged tyrant. That doesn't mean he isn't one, and wouldn't be one.

All of the above is more than rhetoric - these are the actions of one man.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: August 12, 2020, 04:20:02 PM »
Who knows what the hell Trump is really doing.
Well you just accused him of being a tyrant, a traitor and a criminal ... I'm hoping you know what he's been up to before you start accusing him of the worst possible things you can think of.

He has not been convicted of any crimes, so I can't say for sure what he's been up to. However, I did offer you proof that he runs the country like a tyrant. And he cries and whines when he realizes he isn't total authority. This happened when he didn't get his way about the wall, twitter, media, and now tik tok (although he may get his way here).


I have no proof of anything I have just accused him of
Wow. Just wow. And there is a motto for the Dems in this Presidential election. You summed it up in a sentence. That is the Democratic platform for the next election.

You see, the thing about being an American, is that it is my right to have opinions of people, and speak about it, regardless whether or not someone disagrees with me.

but does that really matter what I accuse him of?
Dunno. How would you feel about people libelling you? What if people said you were a peadophile on the internet. Would you like that? Is it civilised. Apparently it doesn't matter what people accuse you of and its fine even if they have no proof. Who looks like the awful weasel who would say anything to get their political way? You or Trump?

Oh poor f'ing Trump. Someone accuses him of awfulness, he can go cry in a corner for all I care - if accusations get him down, why the hell does he put himself in the spotlight? Are you kidding me??? Trump LOVES the attention he gets from people like me who call him out for his BS.

As I said, it is my right to say whatever the hell I want to about the president. 


He has shown his inability to be president - that is what matters.
He's almost done 5 years. Where is the inability? He's still President.

And yet he was impeached.


He has shown that he does not have your interests at heart - that is what matters.
No, he doesn't. I'm British

Don't be pedantic.


I don't know for sure that Trump has committed these crimes
then how about you stop accusing him of them. It is you that then looks like the morally devoid one. Not trump.

Riiiight. I'm calling out the POTUS for being a tyrant when he has demonstrated tyrant mentality publicly on more than one occasion, accusing him of crimes that have been well publicized and covered up by the POTUS asserting his tyrant mentality to block evidence from court, and you say I'm the one who is morally devoid? You don't know who the fuck I am, nor do you know what the fuck you're talking about.

but I know for sure he only cares about himself
No, you don't know that either. Stop talking off the top of your head as though your unfounded statements are real.

this alone is enough for me to not vote for him.
No. You're a leftist. A narcissist. Its you first. Not America. You want people to say you are virtuous, and you will stand up for other people's rights. Not because you care about them. Because you want the virtue. You'll speak up for them, not because you care about their plight but because you want to wrestle the mic off them and make yourself the centre of attention. You want people to think you are brave standing up to a tyrant ... when you aren't in any danger at all because TRUMP ISN'T A TYRANT! You're a self-absorbed leftist baby ... and this is why you vote Dems. Its nothing to do with Trump in the slightest.

Don't act like your some righteous moral being - I've seen your posts. You calling me a narcissist is laughable.

Furthermore, your opinions of me have nothing to do with Trump being an insufferable ego-maniac tyrant.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: August 12, 2020, 03:17:33 PM »
I'm not buying this argument against people for voting "against trump".

And yet you then go on to say

Trump is literally THAT terrible that so many Americans are going to settle for just "voting against trump". People might not be enthusiastic about getting Biden in office, but they are enthusiastic about getting Trump out of office.

You just re-worded my exact statement that you refused to buy.  ::)


No worries, you simply mis-read my statement. Read it again, but more slowly this time.....

I said I wasn't buying your argument "AGAINST" people who .....

So what if they vote against Trump.... this is what I said.

If someone is in power that is obviously a tyrant
Do you know what tyrant means? Is he having people murdered? Is there a secret police making his enemies disappear? Is torture a regular thing in the US? Is he confiscating land and businesses? Is he removing people's right to practise religion? Is he enslaving people or creating a genocide? Dems are so babyish. There is no nuance, just like a child. They just throw our idiotic terms like racist, tyrant, orange man bad. What a pampered child you are to think Trump is a tyrant. Try living under Idi Amin or Pol Pot.

Tyrant means someone who rules with absolute power - I believe Trump has been quoted saying something like, "The president has all authority".

There is also a thing in this country called "The Patriot Act" which allows the government to take people away (make them disappear) if they feel they are a threat.

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Is torture a regular thing in the US?

Have you heard of Guantanamo?


guilty of treason
I must have missed this trial. Can you point me to the case where he was found guilty of treason. Because if you can't, he's innocent until proven guilty and just because you screech guilty like a peasant at a witch trial doesn't make it so.

, and other covered-up crimes,
How convenient. He's committed crimes, but just crimes he covered up so as I can't verify them ... but they happened, because you said so.  ::)



I really hope your lot don't get in. Just look how you all behave. Hollywood celebs, the mainstream media in the US, and the braying harpies that support the dems. Squealing and accusing people of crimes that never happened because you don't like a candidate. Its fine not to like a candidate, but yours is the dishonest party. The party that tells all the lies. The party that divides with identity politics. The party that is filled with awful left-wing extremists advocating to defund the police, burn books and pull down statues, nominates candidates based on the colour of their skin, believes in the original sin of white privilege ... its a shit show and such a basket case of a party should be anywhere near power. Trump is positively sophisticated compared to your lot. 5 more years please America. We don't want a senile puppet with a Marxists hand up his arse for a leader of the free world, thank you very much.

Who knows what the hell Trump is really doing. This is the game he plays - divide, concur, and confuse. I have no proof of anything I have just accused him of, but does that really matter what I accuse him of? He has shown his inability to be president - that is what matters. He has shown that he does not have your interests at heart - that is what matters.

I don't know for sure that Trump has committed these crimes, but I know for sure he only cares about himself - this alone is enough for me to not vote for him.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: August 12, 2020, 02:56:57 PM »
It looks to me like the democrats have given up this year. Biden is a waste of space.

Their campaign is a negative one. It isn't vote for Biden. It is vote against Trump. Those types of campaigns fail to bring out base support because the base isn't enthusiastic about its own candidate. I can't see the dems winning ... thank god.

And Kamala Harris ... congratulations on being a black woman. Its the only qualification required to be Biden's VP. You are the token box ticker who is purely there because the Dems are obsessed with race, sex and victimhood.

I'm not buying this argument against people for voting "against trump".

If someone is in power that is obviously a tyrant, guilty of treason, and other covered-up crimes, and you wanted them out of office, wouldn't the logical thing be to vote for their opponent? I mean, that's just common sense. You don't like someone, don't vote for them, and sometimes that means simply voting the other way - nothing wrong with that.

Trump is literally THAT terrible that so many Americans are going to settle for just "voting against trump". People might not be enthusiastic about getting Biden in office, but they are enthusiastic about getting Trump out of office.

That doesn't say anything negative about the voters, that says a hell of a lot about the POTUS.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: August 12, 2020, 03:08:55 AM »
lol, a vice presidential candidate who believes that her running mate is a rapist.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/11/flashback-kamala-harris-said-she-believed-bidens-rape-accusers/

"Its ok because I want to be VP" -Kamala probably

I’ll admit he’s too touchy feely and that kind of behavior is not tolerated in society these days, but isnt a bit disingenuous to call it rape?

The guy you support is not any better in this regard.

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"...millions of people who had seen nine agonizing minutes of murder were told by an autopsy report that they hadn’t."

When you watch wrestling do you scream "Stop, you're hurting him!!!" too?

It certainly is possible that the police are appropriately trained to apprehend and detain subjects, like those wrestlers are trained to wrestle each other.

If one wrestler begins choking and obviously can't breathe, do you think the match would continue as the wrestler goes limp and passes out?

There is also a stark difference between two trained wrestlers who have an agreed upon contract for what is going to happen, and a police officer pinning someone with dire health conditions against their will.

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An interesting find, Floyd had tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

Are we going to blame cause of death on COVID too?


The following article seems to be a bit bias, but it also counters the point Tom is trying to make, which (biases aside) is still evidence that there are multiple sides to this story. It doesn't seem all that impossible that an organization (or even a mortuary) would lean toward a specific narrative in order to avoid backlash from public pressures. It happens all the time in politics - and this is a VERY political topic.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/

"...millions of people who had seen nine agonizing minutes of murder were told by an autopsy report that they hadn’t."

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It is clear that Floyd is on drugs. He acts very erratic and complains of breasting distress while standing up in the open air. Autopsy report shows that he overdosed on fentanyl.

<video from above>

Again, so right. He's on drugs, let's put em out of his misery. Why should his life matter?

Let's go full commie and kill everyone who does the illegal drugs! Cuz drugs are bad 'mkay

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I don't see a police killing. Floyd is saying that he is not able to breathe long before he is pinned to the ground.

<video above>

I can see the officers are clearly frustrated with the situation. George says he wants to comply, but resists all the way saying he's claustrophobic and can't breathe. Who wouldn't want to knock him over the head with a baton right then and there?

That is their job, however, is it not? To deal with this kind of behavior, however irrational, and to do it while PROTECTING the lives of the people they encounter - that is their obligation when they took their oath. To do any less is shameful and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If you can't take it, get the fuck out. We give police officers more power than we give ordinary citizens. This is why we do it - to PROTECT! Knowing that they will be put in situations that challenges their morality, character; their very essence. We expect that in these situations they will uphold the very thing we as a country bled and died for - sovereignty and independence. Police officers and any law enforcement - military included - are expected to be held to a higher standard. Actions like those officers who dealt with George Floyd is a disgrace to this country.

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Click for bigger.

<image from above>

OK - you're right. Murdering George Floyd was completely justified. While we're at it, why don't we go ahead and eliminate all the scum in the world. Fuck everyone who doesn't walk your straight line and bow down to the man.

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Trump will declare it a sham election if he loses and can blame corona, to which everyone will go 'But you said mail in voting was full of fraud.'

I'm sure if Trump loses, there will be people on the left saying the same thing. It's a no-win situation.

I hope everyone can and does vote.

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I do not believe the Earth is flat as I have seen it curve during flight. I also have evidence of round earth due to HF having increased range as compared to UHV or VHF. I don't mean to be offensive, but am wondering why you guys believe what you do.  :)

May I ask you, how high have you flown? Typical airliners fly up to roughly 40k feet, correct?

I am a RE er and I can say that at that height, you cannot see the earth curve. You can see a round horizon, but that is really just a perspective effect, not a spherical arc.

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Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.



Pardon me if I am incorrectly assuming, but it was my impression that you are in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of American's, not more???

How is this a good thing?

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This whole discussion about panoramas is a diversion. The moon tilt illusion observably happens. Surely what is relevant is why it happens and whether its explanation is a point for (or against) FET or RET.

My take: it’s an optical illusion - the string experiment proves that. Yes, it looks like the string perpendicular to the terminator will shoot off into space but if you keep following the line you’ll see it doesn't. Like all optical illusions it’s an interesting insight into the way our brains process visual information, nothing more.

This isn’t a point for or against either model, in both models the moon is illuminated by the sun (ignoring some models where the moon is self illuminated which are, in my view, just silly).

The only potential point against FE with this illusion, once you understand that it’s an optical illusion, is that in FET would you actually expect the line perpendicular to the moon’s terminator to reach the sun? Wouldn’t EA mean the light should bend? Not sure about this. The Wiki claims that the illusion is a prediction of EA but I don’t understand this as when the illusion happens the light appears to bend the opposite way to the way EA predicts. Although, as discussed, it’s an optical illusion. The light isn’t really bending at all.

My only point about the picture being panoramic was simply to discredit it as evidence, and that (as Pete agreed), it is not a good example of what is happening in reality.

So, getting past the distorted picture, and back to the point:

If the best argument against the string experiment is that "There are several ways to hold the string up to the Moon, to connect to points in the sky", then at least Tom is admitting that it is possible to connect the string from the moon to the sun. We need no further evidence to assert that it is POSSIBLE that the moon is being illuminated by the sun AND that no bending of light is necessary.

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According to the wiki, the person making the claim (the father), never actually observed the phenomenon himself. He only saw the photograph.

Keep reading:

"I'm very surprised that some of you have never noticed it before hence the suggestion asking me to post a video. This is a very common occurrence and I have seen it many many times as I go for my morning walk at about 8.00am every morning. I have never thought of actually tabulating my observations"

"The anomaly is acknowledged to exist with or without photos."

He's referring to a different observation altogether, not at all the same one as in the photograph. We have established that the moon tilt illusion does exist. So the man can possibly also see this illusion, but not to the extent as in the photograph.

The photo does not allow the observer to account for a 3 dimensional perspective. It is a false premise.

The 3 dimensional perspective is what allows the string experiment to work.

The angle in that photo is quite different than it is in reality. The sun and moon do not appear that close together in reality. In reality, during that particular moon-phase, you wouldn't be able to look at the moon and sun at the same time, but because of photographic technology that skews the photo, you can see them at the same time. Therefore, presenting this photo as evidence is disingenuous.

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