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Technology & Information / James Webb telescope launches!
« on: December 27, 2021, 11:24:16 AM »
The James Webb telescope has finally been launched.
It will dramatically increase our knowledge of the universe and it’s history.
It’s been a long time coming. Congrats to NASA and the worldwide team working in this project, including
the Arianne folks in France who built the launch vehicle. Bon Chance, James Webb!

Flat Earth Community / Re: ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 16, 2020, 01:25:48 PM »
You know what? I'll confine my posts to the ranting/raving/lunatic section.
It's taken me, what; 3 days to figure out that the last thing this site wants
is any scientific inquiry which might "rock the boat", so to speak.

Flat Earth Community / Re: ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 15, 2020, 05:35:32 PM »
Well, Pete, I have to respectfully disagree with your statement. I went to the FES wiki site to educate myself
a bit more as to how you do things here, if you do not trust video/photo evidence.
Clicked on "37 reasons why I'm a flat-earther; and what to my surprise do I see? A series of videos "proving"
the earth is flat.
Talk about hypocritical.
If video and photo does not work for Globers, it does not work for FES either.
And, by the way, on my other post (the one you locked) as soon as I asked my question, one of the FES guys
commented that "that's not the way it works here"..... how come he wasn't dinged for "off topic"?
More hypocrisy.....

"Imagine coming to TFES and leaving before you've had an opportunity to interact with Thork? "

All I can imagine is being given the run-around once again. This website isn't a legitimate inquiry into
FE vs. Globe, it's a shrine for mavericks who see themselves as a society apart- never mind the truth.
Every question I asked was moved, criticized, warned, avoided- but never directly addressed.
I'm out of here, guys. SciManDan for president!

Flat Earth Community / Re: ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 14, 2020, 11:51:51 PM »
Well, Jeb- it works for me, but apparently, any video evidence is unacceptable here on TFES, unless
posted by a FE member. (Am I wrong here ? Can't seem to be able to get a straight answer).

Hey Moderators. Got a bit of a bone to pick. I posted a question about watching an event on Jupiter
and asked how FE theory got around the parallax issue when viewing such an event from various
points on earth. I was referred to another post about Jupiter (that didn't comment on parallax even a
little bit- so my question went unaddressed), and then found myself chastised because "that's not the way it works here",
"video evidence is not accepted", "how do we really know it happened", etc. (I saw the event with my own eyes)
And then...… my question was locked- still not addressed, by the way.
Seems that any question you don't like gets the "bum's rush". How can you hold a logical conversation with this sort
of nonsense going on?
Hell of a way to handle legitimate inquiry.

Flat Earth Community / Re: ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 14, 2020, 06:26:26 PM »
Well, you know, I did read it. Tom Bishop immediately avoided the question being asked
by questioning how the orbital data was derived prior to the event, quoting obscure references,
just generally muddying the waters, so to speak. No one supporting FES came close to even
trying to explain the event in FES terms. If you were to ask me why certain things happen in the sky,
 I would do my best to explain it, in clear and well written English, without a bunch of flowery doubletalk
that has nothing to do with the question being asked. So again, referring to (this) original question- why
wouldn't FES support a fact-finding mission of the sort I propose (unless, maybe, the truth isn't the issue here).
Would the proffs generated by such a mission even be accepted by FE'ers? Again- if you disregard all photo
 and video proofs, are not your own also suspect?

Flat Earth Community / Re: ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 14, 2020, 04:39:37 PM »
Well, I see all sorts of video and photo proofs used by the FES crowd to prove their points.
By the same token, your photo evidences, your video evidences; should be disregarded.
I'm sure you'll have some sort of reasoning as to why your video/photo evidence is acceptable
and all other sources are suspect. Precisely why I was thinking that you could accept your own
proofs..... or not?
My whole point is that you could do this and actually come up with evidence one way or another
that would be acceptable as "proof" to the FES crowd.
I mean- it seems as though every time someone asks for a way to prove a globe earth in a way that
would be accepted as legitimate, the question is evaded somehow. Video, pictures, physics, observations,
orbital predictions; all are either scoffed at or dismissed. Conjecture replaces legitimate science: "...well,
why couldn't it be this way?" Wouldn't YOU like to be part of a team that proves the earth is flat?
Other point- do you believe the speed of light is 186327 miles an hour (give or take)? bounce a laser beam off the moon,
it takes 3 seconds (more or less) to get back, you now know the distance to the moon

Flat Earth Investigations / shoemaker-levi question.
« on: July 13, 2020, 11:38:01 PM »
A lot of folk here scoff at gravitation, orbital mechanics, and the like. The earth is covered by a dome, a few hundred
miles up, the planets and sun and moon aren't that far away, etc. I was thinking about when the Shoemaker- Levi comet crashed into
Jupiter a few decades ago. We literally watched in telescopes as Jupiter's gravity tore apart the comet and swallowed it. We were able to predict
the orbit, and the impact. Thousands of people all over the world watched and recorded the event with powerful telescopes.
Now, if a telescope in Australia and a telescope in Chile both record the same images, with no parallax difference (Hubble did the same).
this is a rather definitive proof that this object (Jupiter) is very, very far away. How does FES theory cope with that?
Please don't skirt the issue by sending me links that explain nothing- tell me in your own words how it works. Orbital mechanics can predict the orbit and
behavior of any visible object in the night sky, anywhere in the solar system. How does FES even compete with that?

Flat Earth Community / ... and so easy to prove to yourselves.
« on: July 13, 2020, 11:25:47 PM »
Idea here. Why doesn't the FES get a go-fund-me page going (or do it internally) and send a camera package up in a balloon to; let's say 150.000 feet.
The curvature of the earth would be visible. You would have total control of the camera package. Parachute it back, use live video, both.
It wouldn't be too expensive, I would think that true FES folk would jump at the chance to settle a few arguments. Alternately; put together a
fairly powerful laser and bounce a laser beam off the surface of the moon. You could easily code the laser so the result would be indisputable. The reflectors were left there
on various moon missions.

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