If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.
There is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.
Quote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 09:25:22 AMThere is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.What about price. It would be cheaper to have one server that controls many houses rather than individual servers.
Quote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 05:24:18 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 09:25:22 AMThere is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.What about price. It would be cheaper to have one server that controls many houses rather than individual servers.Not if you juat require the customer to install it on their home pc.
Quote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 05:38:24 PMQuote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 05:24:18 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 09:25:22 AMThere is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.What about price. It would be cheaper to have one server that controls many houses rather than individual servers.Not if you juat require the customer to install it on their home pc.So, then customer knowledge seems to be a huge reason to have an outsider server. Is every consumer expected to know how to set up and maintain a server to use the product? Seems like a very, very narrow market.
Um, you have the ultimate surveillance tool sitting in your pocket for 80% of the day. I don't think the fed gives a flying fuck how cool you keep your house.
Quote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 06:29:11 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 05:38:24 PMQuote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 05:24:18 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 09:25:22 AMThere is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.What about price. It would be cheaper to have one server that controls many houses rather than individual servers.Not if you juat require the customer to install it on their home pc.So, then customer knowledge seems to be a huge reason to have an outsider server. Is every consumer expected to know how to set up and maintain a server to use the product? Seems like a very, very narrow market.Then add a server hardware as part of the package. Something akin to a router. And really, a smart house is not somehing for the computer illiterate.
Quote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 07:05:59 PMQuote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 06:29:11 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 05:38:24 PMQuote from: Pongo on April 08, 2016, 05:24:18 PMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 08, 2016, 09:25:22 AMThere is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.What about price. It would be cheaper to have one server that controls many houses rather than individual servers.Not if you juat require the customer to install it on their home pc.So, then customer knowledge seems to be a huge reason to have an outsider server. Is every consumer expected to know how to set up and maintain a server to use the product? Seems like a very, very narrow market.Then add a server hardware as part of the package. Something akin to a router. And really, a smart house is not somehing for the computer illiterate.Now we are adding hardware? I'm close to envoking the Dave Dance here.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/googles-nest-closing-smart-home-company-revolv-bricking-devices-2016-4The fact that any product that controls your home needs to access a server online is both absolutely stupid and an obvious play at control. There is no reason that any home management hardware needs a server outside of your home. None.
“Internet of Things” security is hilariously broken and getting worseShodan search engine is only the latest reminder of why we need to fix IoT security.
If you can't demonstrate it, then you shouldn't believe it.
If we are not speculating then we must assume
Well when you think a software solution is too hard, what else am I gonna suggest?Point is: everyone who spent hundreds of dollars on that smart home system now has a bunch of devices that are useless. All because the company decided to focus on another product and shut down their servers.
Quote from: Lord Dave on April 09, 2016, 06:41:51 AMWell when you think a software solution is too hard, what else am I gonna suggest?Point is: everyone who spent hundreds of dollars on that smart home system now has a bunch of devices that are useless. All because the company decided to focus on another product and shut down their servers.Why can't you just admit that there are real reasons why one would want home management functionality hosted on an outside server but we'll both agree that it's likely not the best idea?
I have a thermostat. It allows me to set when I want the heating and water on or off. I don't need Google for that.
I don't know what you're implying, but you're probably wrong.