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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Iceman on June 23, 2021, 08:39:06 PM »
It's such a weird but sobering example of crowd mentality going horribly wrong.

The vast majority of those meatheads went there without any malicious intent. The few bad eggs who had legitimate plans and were armed+over-prepared for violence paved a way for the masses to follow and devolve into what we saw on TV.

Thankfully there werent nearly enough people with/privy to a plan so the masses mainly just stumbled around smashing stuff. I'm still baffled at how repercussions there have been for how woefully understaffed and equipped  the capitol police were. Clearly intentional by those in charge and it cost lives on both sides.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by crutonius on June 23, 2021, 08:06:32 PM »
There's a disturbing tendency to downplay January 6.  There's no reason to think they wouldn't have murdered any Democratic member of congress or even some of the Republicans if they got their hands on them.  They were quite willing to kill anyone who got in their way, including law enforcement.

It's not an exaggeration to say that if it weren't for a small handful of police officers who didn't have their thumbs in their asses then we would probably be in a civil war by now.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by honk on June 23, 2021, 05:12:35 PM »
There was a non-zero chance that when faced with Trump's supporters at their angriest, Pence and the Republicans in Congress might have done what they could to avoid certifying Biden's win. They didn't have a valid case for doing so, but they still could have done it, and who would have stopped them, or made them follow the law? That's probably what the rioters were counting on.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New model of the Universe.
« Last post by AlexandrKushnirtshuk on June 23, 2021, 01:20:17 PM »
An important addition to the worldview.

Knowledge, understanding, awareness - three levels of comprehension of the meaning of something. Dynamic balance of opposites: + - at a specific moment in time, and strictly 50/50 at infinity (in time). A very important criterion for the truth of many things and phenomena, one of the fundamental properties of the Universe, the realization of which is the key to understanding a lot of things - the Law of Conservation of Energy - it's some kind of (like the third) Law of Thermodynamics. In my interpretation, it looks like this: Nothing appears out of nowhere, and does not disappear into anywhere, but only redistributes and / or transforms from one state to another.

A very important consequence of the Law of Conservation of Energy. Destruction, preservation and creation are types of transformation. Something can be "created" only from something, it means not to create in the full sense of the word, but to transform something into something. In short. Nobody created the universe, and there are no creators as such, in principle, there are transformers of different levels, orders, opportunities and responsibilities.

Nobody has ever created anything.
Creation, preservation and destruction are varieties of transformation. In Hinduism, Rama (creator), Vishnu (keeper), Shiva (destroyer) is the personalization of the transformation varieties. The Christian “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” is a complete amen and hallelujah in oil, or just a set of masculine words.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Flat Earth Gravity Explained
« Last post by Pete Svarrior on June 23, 2021, 12:03:31 PM »
True, but they are very good examples on how UA works.
Yes, they may be worth incorporating into our material in some fashion. I'm just wary of people accidentally re-discovering something that's already known, coming up with a new name, and thus diluting accessibility of our research.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 23, 2021, 09:30:59 AM »
The thing that gets me is that most of the Jan 6th rioters seem to be regular folks. Regular folks with a lot of disposable income, since a lot of them seem to have travelled from far and wide to get there.... but;

I don't get the impression that they thought they would storm the building, stop the process, then actually DO something. I get the impression they thought they would stop the process, then go back home, go back to work, and it would then be someone else's problem.

And steal Pelosi's mail.
And maybe kill someone.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Tumeni on June 23, 2021, 08:05:59 AM »
The thing that gets me is that most of the Jan 6th rioters seem to be regular folks. Regular folks with a lot of disposable income, since a lot of them seem to have travelled from far and wide to get there.... but;

I don't get the impression that they thought they would storm the building, stop the process, then actually DO something. I get the impression they thought they would stop the process, then go back home, go back to work, and it would then be someone else's problem.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Flat Earth Gravity Explained
« Last post by Atella on June 22, 2021, 11:37:17 PM »
Check out this awesome tool. I think you'll like it. https://timhutton.github.io/GravityIsNotAForce/index.html



It visualizes why objects fall - objects move in straight-line paths that are determined by the geometry of spacetime. All mass warps the curvature of spacetime around it, creating what we understand as gravity. But gravity is not a force!!

It is very intuitive when you use the sliding scale to view an object from outside of the inertial frame of reference (0 m/s) and you can see how all objects at rest (free-falling) take straight-line paths through spacetime.

This is a great tool. Really makes it easy to visualize. What's interesting is that most people tend to think that it is warping in space that causes "gravity", but really the warping in time is what causes objects to fall. Because of time dilation, different parts of an object move through the time dimension at different rates and change the trajectory.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 22, 2021, 07:46:04 PM »
How many weapons and soliders does China and Russia have in the US?
Alot less than the number who stormed the capital on January 6.
Stormed the capital?[sic] These extremely dangerous looking people who have calmly stopped to have their photos taken by the assembled press who a) knew they would be there and b) felt in absolutely no mortal danger whatsoever? You think is gaggle have more weapons and soldiers than China?



I think you've been watching too much CNN again.

a) This was taken before the riot occurred.
b) There was an armed officer there.



But I was thinking more this:

or this

You know, that time people tried to break into a blockaided door and someone got shot by Secret Service?


I mean...

That's alot of trump supporters right there.  All wanting THEIR president to be in power, not the one person who actually won.