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Suggestions & Concerns / Suggestion: Upvote/Downvote Idea
« on: April 18, 2019, 04:19:28 AM »
I think it would be cool if there was a button that could allow us to like/dislike a post we view. Just a thought.
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How would these work on a flat earth if the sun and moon are level with each other and are moved by the aetheric whirlpool (this is what I've heard).The FE Wiki claims that the New Moon occurs when the moon is below the Sun's altitude of the orbit. So that causes a solar eclipse according to them but there's still some controversy between how lunar phases work. Even Tom admitted they don't know much about this, as he said, "Not much is known about the celestial bodies and there differences".
It is questionable, however scientists are certain it came from an interstellar space, possibly from a solar system like ours. They also concluded it had high speeds before reaching the solar system.So I read the post, and then briefly looked at the rest of the links. The comet is still being affected by gravity, causing its path, but it was mostly affected by cometary outgassing.
You haven't done your homework.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.11490.pdf
From a theoretical point of view, Rafikov (2018) has shown that if outgassing was responsible for the acceleration (as originally proposed by Micheli et al. 2018), then the associated outgassing torques would have driven a rapid evolution in ‘Oumuamua’s spin, incompatible with observations.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/6-strange-facts-about-the-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua/
The extra push for ‘Oumuamua could have originated by cometary outgassing if at least a tenth of its mass evaporated. But such massive evaporation would have naturally led to the appearance of a cometary tail, and none was seen. The Spitzer telescope observations also place tight limits on any carbon-based molecules or dust around ‘Oumuamua and rule out the possibility that normal cometary outgassing is at play (unless it is composed of pure water). Moreover, cometary outgassing would have changed the rotation period of ‘Oumuamua, and no such change was observed.
https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/476/3/3031/4909830
The lack of evidence for outgassing means that the purely observational prior favours an asteroid-like composition.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1809.06389.pdf
However, a recent measurement by Micheli et al (2018) of a substantial non-gravitational acceleration affecting the orbit of this object has been interpreted as resulting from its cometary activity, which must be rather
vigorous. Here we critically re-assess this interpretation by exploring the implications of measured
non-gravitational acceleration for the ’Oumuamua’s rotational state. We show that outgassing torques
should drive rapid evolution of ’Oumuamua’s spin (on a timescale of a few days), assuming torque
asymmetry typical for the Solar System comets. However, given the highly elongated shape of the
object, its torque asymmetry is likely higher, implying even faster evolution. This would have resulted
in rapid rotational fission of ’Oumuamua during its journey through the Solar System and is clearly
incompatible with the relative stability of its rotational state inferred from photometric variability.
Based on these arguments, as well as the lack of direct signs of outgassing, we conclude that the
classification of ’Oumuamua as a comet (invoked to explain its claimed anomalous acceleration) is
questionable.
There are many models, so it could be several thingsThis is not about flat earth. This is a proof for a globe earth.
Their calculations might be wrongThey were, with an error of 15%. I said that in my original post. But the fact that they got a somewhat accurate calculation for the technology they had 2300 years ago is impressive.
How do you know the people in other parts of the world weren't lyingThat makes no sense. At the time, they didn't know much about the world. So if they found the circumference of earth, this would be a remarkable discovery. Also, he did this by himself.
Maybe degrees have a different length in different parts of the world but they measured wrongNo, he hypothesized that Syene (a city where he did his observations in) was 7 degrees, 14 arcseconds from Alexandria (the other city) on a curved surface. That's around 50 times smaller than a circle, so he multiplied the distance from both cities by 50 to get the circumference of a circle.
Were you there? The entire story could be made up, all the numbers could be lies"All the numbers can be lies", yet out of a wild guess he got the circumference of Earth with an accuracy of 85%?
There are many ways this could be wrong, so one can still believe FE with so much possibility of dismissal of your idea.Really?! Can you please explain why?
I think you have this place confused with YouTube.No... this is clearly YouTube. Although this new update looks weird.
Non-gravitational acceleration of the Oumuamua comet:So I read the post, and then briefly looked at the rest of the links. The comet is still being affected by gravity, causing its path, but it was mostly affected by cometary outgassing.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2122759#msg2122759
I would LOVE to see an animation/diagram/picture showing how they work on a flat earth.I’d love to see a diagram of how FE thinks a full moon works. I know they say something about the sun and moon varying in altitude because of...reasons.
But even with that I’m not clear how the angles would work such that the sun could illuminate enough of the moon than it’s full for everyone on the night side of the disc.
I’ve been encouraging them to build this model for some time. I’m even willing to help! It seems like an obvious first task to legitimise FET.
Hence, I am a little surprised at the lack of response.
If I didn’t know better, I’d almost think that they were not interested in legitimising FET. But that’s absurd, why wouldn’t they be?
There is a possible epicycle trajectory that should work for mapping the sun and moon patterns over a FE. I’d need their help in figuring out whether this could also provide the moon phases.
When the moon is below the sun's altitude the moon is dark and a New Moon occurs.So how high/low does the Sun change altitude? We should be seeing the Sun's angular size increase/decrease, but this isn't reality.
When the moon is above the altitude of the sun the moon is fully lit and a Full Moon occurs.