I have not enough english to undestand you completely but i want to answer what i understand.
First you need to leanr that there is not a flat map that everybody accepted.
We know that the round earth is a liae because it is impossible if the atmospher is spinnig with a speed from 1000 milph to 3.000 milph with don't difuses the sky. So the round earth model is completely impossible. But this impossibility don't caused by shape, it's caused by just movement.
There is a lot of models about flat earth, the globe is one of them. Your travel is possible with a hemi-sphere model like this:
This is orlando ferguson model near what i want to say.
Another model is "reverse curve model (inside curve)". This model permits what you say, and compatible with all of the measurements of the world. To understand second model, think the curve earth model is the outside of the curve, and reverse it out to in and in to out.
what I want to say is it is possible a lot of model except round earth or flat earth model that permits sitting on a mountain and see everywhere. don't rely on a single model. Just trust to God never lies.
I have not enough english to undestand you completely but i want to answer what i understand.
First you need to leanr that there is not a flat map that everybody accepted.
We know that the round earth is a liae because it is impossible if the atmospher is spinnig with a speed from 1000 milph to 3.000 milph with don't difuses the sky. So the round earth model is completely impossible. But this impossibility don't caused by shape, it's caused by just movement.
There is a lot of models about flat earth, the globe is one of them. Your travel is possible with a hemi-sphere model like this:
This is orlando ferguson model near what i want to say.
Another model is "reverse curve model (inside curve)". This model permits what you say, and compatible with all of the measurements of the world. To understand second model, think the curve earth model is the outside of the curve, and reverse it out to in and in to out.
what I want to say is it is possible a lot of model except round earth or flat earth model that permits sitting on a mountain and see everywhere. don't rely on a single model. Just trust to God never lies.
You must be the worst of all the flat earth promoters.
You deem facts about the globe earth impossible without even understanding it, and I'll probably be the only one to comment your drivel about the atmosphere: it's just that stupid.
That's really a 50/50 thing to be honest, but people in the defense will always point fingers.I have not enough english to undestand you completely but i want to answer what i understand.
First you need to leanr that there is not a flat map that everybody accepted.
We know that the round earth is a liae because it is impossible if the atmospher is spinnig with a speed from 1000 milph to 3.000 milph with don't difuses the sky. So the round earth model is completely impossible. But this impossibility don't caused by shape, it's caused by just movement.
There is a lot of models about flat earth, the globe is one of them. Your travel is possible with a hemi-sphere model like this:
This is orlando ferguson model near what i want to say.
Another model is "reverse curve model (inside curve)". This model permits what you say, and compatible with all of the measurements of the world. To understand second model, think the curve earth model is the outside of the curve, and reverse it out to in and in to out.
what I want to say is it is possible a lot of model except round earth or flat earth model that permits sitting on a mountain and see everywhere. don't rely on a single model. Just trust to God never lies.
You must be the worst of all the flat earth promoters.
You deem facts about the globe earth impossible without even understanding it, and I'll probably be the only one to comment your drivel about the atmosphere: it's just that stupid.
This answer was not for you.
You and other rounders usually are ude, vulgar, profane and the unprincipled ones.
I'm saying again for stupids:If you want to have a private talk with Stevan, send him a private message. If you jump into the public discussion thread, you are likely to draw comments from others. That's just how a forum works; it's actually the whole point of a forum.
"I don't care who talked except Stevan.
He asked and i answered him. "
I don't need to get involved with some men that profane, immoral, unprincipled, ignorant, stupid, childish and ridiculous.A good way to not 'get involved with some men' who behave in ways you don't like would be to ignore them. One doesn't need to reply to every comment.
Oh, also...since there are so many that have flown over Antarctica and continue to do so, where are the flat earth explorers who have seen and documented many-month trips along a perimeter ice wall that never ends? All I've seen so far are references to ancient explorers and old books, is there any current exploration evidence?Oh, also...since there are so many who have flown over Antarctica and continue to do so, where is any current exploratory evidence??
Oh, also...since there are so many who have flown over Antarctica and continue to do so, where is any current exploratory evidence??
I'm saying again for stupids:I weren't "rude" or "immoral", I just laid out reality. You comment on known facts, often even facts that flat earthers take into account, saying its all wrong and implying we're stupid because "we can't see".
"I don't care who talked except Stevan.
He asked and i answered him. "
I don't need to get involved with some men that profane, immoral, unprincipled, ignorant, stupid, childish and ridiculous.
I'm saying again for stupids:If you want to have a private talk with Stevan, send him a private message. If you jump into the public discussion thread, you are likely to draw comments from others. That's just how a forum works; it's actually the whole point of a forum.
"I don't care who talked except Stevan.
He asked and i answered him. "I don't need to get involved with some men that profane, immoral, unprincipled, ignorant, stupid, childish and ridiculous.A good way to not 'get involved with some men' who behave in ways you don't like would be to ignore them. One doesn't need to reply to every comment.
I don't remember that i want any suggestions. So do you? I wonder if all of rounders are you unprincipled human or just are you try to defend your brother in religion. (RE)
I don't remember that i want any suggestions. So do you? I wonder if all of rounders are you unprincipled human or just are you try to defend your brother in religion. (RE)
It's not about what you want. You complained about other people talking to you, I explained why it happened. Many times you have pointed out to us that you are not American. As a courtesy I thought maybe an explanation of how we do things in this predominantly American forum was appropriate. Which part of it do you find "unprincipled", I wonder? You're the one doing the name-calling, after all.
I don't remember that i want any suggestions. So do you? I wonder if all of rounders are you unprincipled human or just are you try to defend your brother in religion. (RE)
It's not about what you want. You complained about other people talking to you, I explained why it happened. Many times you have pointed out to us that you are not American. As a courtesy I thought maybe an explanation of how we do things in this predominantly American forum was appropriate. Which part of it do you find "unprincipled", I wonder? You're the one doing the name-calling, after all.
You have to understand, that even though a lot of people use this forum for practicing debating skills, FE'ers are making absurd claims that contradicts centuries of findings.I don't remember that i want any suggestions. So do you? I wonder if all of rounders are you unprincipled human or just are you try to defend your brother in religion. (RE)
It's not about what you want. You complained about other people talking to you, I explained why it happened. Many times you have pointed out to us that you are not American. As a courtesy I thought maybe an explanation of how we do things in this predominantly American forum was appropriate. Which part of it do you find "unprincipled", I wonder? You're the one doing the name-calling, after all.
I didn't understand most of you write. But a few. Where is the american forum sign on this forum, i didn't see. There is already a good site for flat earthers like here, so why i want to go anywhere except here? You want to try just demoralized me. I'm happy to be here because there are those a lot of people who think like me.
Despite all good intentions i can not find a valid reason to be here for the rounders. I don't want say about someboyd here like "nasa trolls" but here is the rounders usually writing as there is a war or fight. Most of men are thinkers here, but most of the rounders acting Fe's like we are some barbarians. No we don't. And no one of you is our teachers. But you are acting as you are right and we want you teach us something. You are wrong. The world's move is impossible so ; whatever you do it will not change this idea. and you know you personalize however. it makes all the trolls. but I'm not saying you troll.
I'm here to admire different schools of thought and was hoping to learn something but I can't get over the fact that I've seen things that TFES adamantly denies so I need some help from you to determine why what I've seen and experienced with my own eyes is a lie. After college, I was with the US Coast Guard for 9 years and was a Navigation first officer during many Antarctic crossings where it was our job to continually monitor and report large ice breakings so we could monitor and report to Southern shipping lanes for safety reasons. We also constantly photographed (and continue to do so) the advancing and retreating of Antarctic ice sheets to determine the level of advancement we are experiencing of melting ice.
At 49, I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person and have been a life-long explorer at heart (having sailed every ocean and have circumnavigated the planet). Herein lies my confusion....I have flown across Antarctica and have seen the continent from one side to another in less than a day (how is this possible in the FE model)? How have I seen (dozens of times), a completely different starry sky in the Northern Hemisphere than I do in the Southern Hem? I know that compasses and Telescopes are not a form of Witchcraft, and one could not possibly surmise that an agency like NASA has lied about literally everything under the scrutiny of some very intelligent people that have graced our planet. I can't imagine that this has been some huge conspiracy just to sell globes. Please help.
Those who promote a flat earth have not benefitted from the experiences you've had. Since they have themselves seen nothing to convince them of the earth's roundness, they consider what you have seen and done to be impossible, and thus you and I must be liars, shills, or alternate usernames created by one of us round earthers. Military folks like you and me (Go Navy!) are often further accused of being active members of The Conspiracy, or dupes of it. In your case, you must have been an active part of The Conspiracy, since only by knowing the true shape of things could a navigation officer successfully return your aircraft to its base in that part of the world, where the globe shape diverges the most from the 'true' flat shape (whichever version of the falt earth your accuser holds true).
That's one theory. The other theory is: none of them believe it, they're having a laugh.
I have not enough english to undestand you completely but i want to answer what i understand.
First you need to leanr that there is not a flat map that everybody accepted.
We know that the round earth is a liae because it is impossible if the atmospher is spinnig with a speed from 1000 milph to 3.000 milph with don't difuses the sky. So the round earth model is completely impossible. But this impossibility don't caused by shape, it's caused by just movement.
There is a lot of models about flat earth, the globe is one of them. Your travel is possible with a hemi-sphere model like this:
This is orlando ferguson model near what i want to say.
Another model is "reverse curve model (inside curve)". This model permits what you say, and compatible with all of the measurements of the world. To understand second model, think the curve earth model is the outside of the curve, and reverse it out to in and in to out.
what I want to say is it is possible a lot of model except round earth or flat earth model that permits sitting on a mountain and see everywhere. don't rely on a single model. Just trust to God never lies.
Just a thought. Maybe if posters such as Intikam could write their posts in their native language and use one of the many "language translator" websites to translate it to English, it would be more understanable and make more sense. On the other hand, maybe if we translated English to Turkish, that would help.
Just a thought. Maybe if posters such as Intikam could write their posts in their native language and use one of the many "language translator" websites to translate it to English, it would be more understanable and make more sense. On the other hand, maybe if we translated English to Turkish, that would help.
Those sites don't deal well with idiom, and often can't rearrange word order to make the syntax shift from one language to the other. Simply doing a word by word 'translation' loses a lot of meaning and can be practically unreadable.
True but you will find that "Google Translate" does amazingly well, simply because it does not attempt to formulate rules and algorithms[1], but just analyses all the literature and writings it can find in each language, looking at how phrases and idiom have been translated. I am just waiting for the time when so much material is machine translated, that "Google Translate" starts "feeding off itself"! | ... | (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Ouroboros_1.jpg/330px-Ouroboros_1.jpg) |
I have not enough english to undestand you completely but i want to answer what i understand.
First you need to leanr that there is not a flat map that everybody accepted.
We know that the round earth is a liae because it is impossible if the atmospher is spinnig with a speed from 1000 milph to 3.000 milph with don't difuses the sky. So the round earth model is completely impossible. But this impossibility don't caused by shape, it's caused by just movement.
There is a lot of models about flat earth, the globe is one of them. Your travel is possible with a hemi-sphere model like this:
This is orlando ferguson model near what i want to say.
Another model is "reverse curve model (inside curve)". This model permits what you say, and compatible with all of the measurements of the world. To understand second model, think the curve earth model is the outside of the curve, and reverse it out to in and in to out.
what I want to say is it is possible a lot of model except round earth or flat earth model that permits sitting on a mountain and see everywhere. don't rely on a single model. Just trust to God never lies.
Intikam, you might understand the speed of the earth's rotation if you looked at it from an "RPM" (Revolutions Per Minnute) viewpoint.
The earth makes 1 revolution in 24 hours. How many RPM's is that ? The same as the speed of the hour hand on a 24 hour clock !
Most Serious Biblical Scholars I know say that you have to consider It in the context of when It was written, what was known at that time, and much of It is metaphoric, such as "the four corners", etc.
Jusf a thought. Maybe if posters such as Intikam could write their posts in their native language and use one of the many "language translator" websites to translate it to English , it would be more understanable and make more sense. On the other hand , maybe if we translated English to Turkish, that would help.
As for "stupid".......I don't know if Intikam is really stupid or not.......But if he isn't, he's putting on a very good act at being so. LOL.
I have known a few people from Kansas. They are fairly intelligent. But just because Kansas is flat, they don't believe the world is some flat disc. Although they may not have ever been out of Kansas, they have studied enough geography to know that the earth is a globe.
is it looks like the world is really spinning on. I do not think so. Look around you don't feel the air. It is theorical has a speed 1667 kms/h or 1000 mls/h. We are spinning with same speed but it is impossible has simultaneously same speed.It's because not only is the atmosphere moving relative to the earth, but the earth is not accelerating and therefore you would not expect to feel any movement.
At 49, I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person and have been a life-long explorer at heart (having sailed every ocean and have circumnavigated the planet). Herein lies my confusion....I have flown across Antarctica and have seen the continent from one side to another in less than a day (how is this possible in the FE model)? How have I seen (dozens of times), a completely different starry sky in the Northern Hemisphere than I do in the Southern Hem? I know that compasses and Telescopes are not a form of Witchcraft, and one could not possibly surmise that an agency like NASA has lied about literally everything under the scrutiny of some very intelligent people that have graced our planet. I can't imagine that this has been some huge conspiracy just to sell globes. Please help.
Oh, also...since there are so many that have flown over Antarctica and continue to do so, where are the flat earth explorers who have seen and documented many-month trips along a perimeter ice wall that never ends? All I've seen so far are references to ancient explorers and old books, is there any current exploration evidence? Before I subscribe to a theory that we live in a giant snowglobe, I need people to understand why we (navigators) do not use the Bible as a navigation reference since from what I can see so far, so many are referencing the bible as proof of a flat earth. If one were to take biblical geography as fact, wouldn't the earth have corners? I have attached a couple images of the Antartic continent showing the frozen ice sheets surrounding the land mass. Please explain.