Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« on: October 11, 2019, 08:03:39 AM »
In the flat earth models where the Sun is hovering over the earth the Moon is presumed to be lit because it is about at the same height of the Sun, but how do these models explain the fact that during the night the illumination does not change as the Sun moves?
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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2019, 10:07:50 AM »
how do these models explain the fact that during the night the illumination does not change as the Sun moves?
That's not a fact, that's a misconception. In both RET and FET, the illumination of the moon does change throughout the night, if only slightly.
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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2019, 12:52:03 PM »
Can you explain how the sun and the moon moves if there isn't gravity, when you say that there is no gravity on Earth so presumably there isn't in the universe.

Or is it only there isn't gravity on earth and that it still exists on other planets?

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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2019, 04:25:27 PM »
If the Sun and Moon were both perpetually circling above a flat Earth it doesn't take much imagination to figure out that the resulting phase pattern seen would be totally different to the one we see in reality. Plus how would a total eclipse of the Sun happen because the Moon would never (as far as I can make out) cast a shadow on the Earths surface.  So some explanation needed there I think! I know FE people talk about a 'shadow object' but that only applies to a lunar eclipse.
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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2019, 04:22:10 PM »
when you say that there is no gravity on Earth so presumably there isn't in the universe.
Don't presume. Read.
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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2019, 02:30:56 PM »
when you say that there is no gravity on Earth so presumably there isn't in the universe.
Don't presume. Read.

Read what? According to the FE FAQ, it seems that there is no gravity.
"Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?
The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless
."https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions

It basically says that there is no gravity, and the gravity we thought of is the UA. And according to some other models, there is still gravity.

So, Pete, you haven't answered my question(btw, you tend to attack the questions and the minor logical and grammatical errors within it, not actually answering them)
Can you explain how the sun and the moon moves if there isn't gravity, when you say that there is no gravity on Earth so presumably there isn't in the universe.

Or is it only there isn't gravity on earth and that it still exists on other planets?

Just, please, try your best to answer the questions.

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Re: Fixed illumination of the Moon explaination?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 09:10:13 AM »
According to the FE FAQ, it seems that there is no gravity.
Your reading comprehension needs some work. As you astutely pointed out, the FAQ states that "the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught". How could you have read that sentence and concluded that "there is no gravity"?

How could you possibly have read that, noticed the link to the UA page, and not clicked it?

The information is handed to you on a silver platter. Read it. Whining about it won't get you anywhere.
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