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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 07:28:11 AM »
So Trump's meme coin is now an official currency for political donations and subject to the same laws there of?

Or is it a private investment meant to be used by private citizen Trump?
It's whatever it needs to be for Tom to pretend that thisisfine.jpg.
I enjoyed the fact that Tom also admitted that Trump is such a poor businessman that he "does not have control over whether he is successful"
lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 10, 2025, 01:56:56 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyglw20lg2o

Maybe he’s Jesus first, which I think is one of the qualifications

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 10, 2025, 08:47:40 AM »
This is wrong as well. The only requirement to be US President is that you are over the age of 35, a resident of the United States for over 14 years, and be a natural-born citizen. Everything else is your personalized whiney rant of the day about what you think a president should do or how they should conduct their business interests.

You know what, you're right.

If a president wants to lie repeatedly, use his position of power to further enrich himself and his mates, make decisions which push the country in to the brink of recession, take no responsibility for anything and blame everyone but himself for his failings and just generally act like a complete asshat on the world stage and make himself and by association your country a complete laughing stock then you're right, there's no requirements to stop him doing any of that.

And yes, because of the MAGA Cult he gets away with it.
Where we differ is I don't actually think it's a good thing. I'd rather have a world leader with honestly, integrity and competence.
I'm a bit of an old traditionalist when it comes to stuff like that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 09, 2025, 04:34:54 PM »
Uttered like someone who has absolutely no problem with Zelensky having enriched himself via graft from US taxpayer dollars since he has been in office.
If that's true then I'd agree that is also wrong.
See? It's called logical consistency. You should try it some time.
^Does not even investigate enough to prevent himself from posting a sentence containing the words."if that's true..."
I don't need to investigate anything. You're the one making the claim, it's incumbent on you to evidence it.
But either you think that using positions of power to enrich oneself is OK or it isn't OK. I'm going to go with "isn't OK".
It's not right when Trump does it, it's not right if Zelensky does it - a claim you have made but been unable to evidence.
The trouble with the MAGA lot is they decide what they think about something depending on who did it.
If it's their Cult Leader in Chief then it's OK, he is their Supreme Leader who can do no wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 09, 2025, 03:15:34 PM »
Uttered like someone who has absolutely no problem with Zelensky having enriched himself via graft from US taxpayer dollars since he has been in office.
If that's true then I'd agree that is also wrong.
See? It's called logical consistency. You should try it some time.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 09, 2025, 06:11:43 AM »
I was looking at Arnie’s IMDB page. He did a few things but there’s a noticeable gap when he was the Governator. Because he had a different job.
Being President is not a side gig, neither should it be used as an opportunity to further enrich oneself.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 08, 2025, 09:46:50 PM »
This is obviously bullshit. When you appoint or vote someone to a certain role you expect them to do that role and act professionally.

Actually no, why would you vote for someone and then expect them to act completely different?
Because they're in a different role which requires them to.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 08, 2025, 08:59:15 PM »
More directly, if as Ukrainian President Zelensky went on stage and did the bit where he plays the piano with his testicles again, no one would bat an eye. He would lose no popularity, simply because that is the person they voted for. They would clap and call it hilarious.
This is obviously bullshit. When you appoint or vote someone to a certain role you expect them to do that role and act professionally.
When Sebastian Coe became an MP he didn't run laps of the House of Commons during debates and had he done so literally no-one would have said "What did you expect? You elected an Olympic runner!"

Trump is unconventional and in a way that's not a bad thing. The issues with him are the complete lack of honesty, integrity and strategy.
You MAGA lot might not care, but I'd suggest these are not ideal traits in a leader. Your strategy for coping with it is to either not care or simply pretend those things aren't true.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 08, 2025, 04:38:03 PM »
Up to a point. Zelensky was a comedian before he went in to politics. I don't think the people of Ukraine elected him and then expected him to go on another standup tour or launch a new TV comedy series. Whatever background someone has, you elect someone to run the country, not to enrich themselves.

Actually Zelensky proves that the rules of traditional politics don't apply to stars. There is a video segment of Zelensky playing the piano with his testicles in front of an audience. If a traditional politician went on stage and did it, or if previously filmed segment was uncovered and publicized as they were campaigning, this would be career ending for them. For a traditional politician a video of them pants down in front of a piano would be professionally embarrassing and they would get rejected by their party, or they would have to resign. Zelensky got away with it because he was a media and comedic star, and his antics even gained him popularity.

Zelensky may not be using humor anymore in his role as president, but if he had continued with it he would assuredly get away with a lot.
There is something in what you're saying.
But there's a difference between Zelensky using humour in his speeches - which many politicians do anyway (often with...mixed results) and him launching a new comedy show or stand up tour. If he did those things I suspect there would be a feeling of "shouldn't you be running the country?"

You are right that Trump gets away with stuff which other politicians wouldn't. I just don't see that as a good thing. I'd prefer leaders to have integrity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 08, 2025, 04:06:33 PM »
No politician should

Again, this is the issue. He's not a traditional politician, so he doesn't play by those rules. He is a television star and world famous comedic personality whose running theme is that he runs businesses and makes money, so he can get rich off of his crypto business and meme coins if he wants to.

You may as well argue that if Elvis were elected President that he shouldn't continue to sing in concerts, but those arguments will obviously not go far in the realm of public opinion if President Elvis Presley wanted to lead in a concert. Your social expectations of a traditional president would mean nothing, and they mean nothing here with Trump.
Up to a point. Zelensky was a comedian before he went in to politics. I don't think the people of Ukraine elected him and then expected him to go on another standup tour or launch a new TV comedy series. Whatever background someone has, you elect someone to run the country, not to enrich themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 07, 2025, 06:14:47 PM »
Reporter: "When dees it become the Trump economy?"

Trump: "It partially is right now. And I really mean this I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy"

lol

I mean.. that is Trump.  What is good, is his doing.  What's bad is someone else's fault.  Man has never admitted to losing or making a mistake.
The buck stops literally anywhere else but here.

He is beyond parody. It’s a quote which wouldn’t look out of place on SNL.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 07, 2025, 02:44:18 PM »
Reporter: "When dees it become the Trump economy?"

Trump: "It partially is right now. And I really mean this I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy"

lol

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Actually, he does say that the upwards acceleration manifests as physical phenomena. At around the 5:50 mark he explains
I won't bother re-quoting the part you quoted in which he doesn't say it's a physical phenomenon at all.
He very carefully explains that it's the time dilation which causes the shift. Nothing physical at all. With the cones he explains how the ground can be accelerating upwards on different sides of the earth without the earth expanding. Not sure why you are ignoring that.
The cherry picked quote doesn't even say what you claim.

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It is using the same mechanism of a policeman's radar gun which uses the red or blue shift of light to determine acceleration. When cars are accelerating away from the policeman, the light redshifts.
You think the cars have to be accelerating for them to work? That would be very inefficient, they'd never catch anyone speeding who is going at a constant speed. They do work by Doppler shift, usually of radar not visible light. Some use lasers and they also use the time taken for the signal to return to the device.

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That's not the only part of the argument. The other part is that there is a lack of evidence that the earth's surface is accelerating upwards through space time or bending space.

The evidence is the observations and experiments. Einstein's theory of gravity predicts these things, Newton's doesn't. Multiple experiments have been done which observe the things Einstein predicted. That's how we know that Einstein's model of gravity is better than Newton's. Although Newton's works fine in most circumstances. As I said, GPS satellites take Relativistic effects into account in order for it to work accurately
https://www.gpsworld.com/inside-the-box-gps-and-relativity/

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Actually this thread shows that mainstream science is cherry picking what to accept. It can't accept an upwardly accelerating earth
Another one of your "no u" arguments.
You literally started this thread by citing Brian Cox explaining how earth is accelerating upwards. My video also says that, but it also explains that it is not a physical acceleration - again, the cone thing. It's an acceleration through spacetime. The weird thing is on this Wiki page you use Relativity to explain why UA doesn't accelerate the earth beyond the speed of light:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration#Accelerating_to_the_Speed_of_Light

This is another example of your cherry picking. You use Relativity to explain things when it suits you, you dismiss it as some magical mystical thing which can't be true when it doesn't suit you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 04, 2025, 06:08:28 PM »
Finally some good news!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9l3399wvno

Although maybe not that good. Unless the Democrats sort their shit out it’ll probably be Vance or someone else shitting up the place next

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 04, 2025, 07:56:13 AM »
Ukraine is the weaker country and beggars can't be choosers.
So your stance is bullying is good, let’s give in to the bullies. Not the best philosophy I’ve heard tbh

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That video actually goes through the evidence and affirms that the physical reality is that the surface of the earth is accelerating upwards.
lol. He literally doesn’t use the word physical or physically once. He explains quite well how the acceleration is not physical.

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Upwards acceleration of the earth's surface doesn't work if the Earth is a ball, so unseen realms of existence are invented where mechanics are occurring beyond our perception.
Also not true. He also explains how this explains gravitational red shift and time dilation. Both of these things have been verified experimentally and he mentions how time dilation is taken in to account in GPS satellites. This isn’t blind faith, these are predictions of Einstein’s theories and have been observed to be true.

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The reason why we always just see Brian Cox or others merely explaining what it is, but we never see direct defense of the upward acceleration of the earth's surface through space time, is because it is ridiculous beyond words

As a wise man once said (see my sig)
“Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

:)

You continue to conflate “I don’t understand this” with “this is not possible”. And curiously you do so while cherry picking parts of mainstream science where it suits your agenda. There’s no crime in being ignorant, but it’s a little silly to base a whole worldview on that ignorance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 09:12:53 PM »
Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

"US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz will leave his post and be nominated to serve as ambassador to the United Nations, President Donald Trump says"
I actually thought you were joking.
Genuinely impossible to tell reality from satire these days.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 06:45:19 PM »
Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 09:24:28 AM »
Wait wait wait...

You're using E85 as 'gas'?
No wonder we couldn't find it!  E85 is normally cheaper than regular unleaded so this went from:

Gas in many states
To gas in some states
To gas in 3 states
To gas at a few stations
To E85 at a few stations.

My my how the goal posts keep shifting.
lol
Tom will move them as far as he needs to in order to make it seem like his cult leader is right.
I wonder if he'll ever realise that the emperor has no clothes on. If he does then he will never admit it.

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