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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2014, 05:09:38 PM »
in excess of 400 000 people would of had to of lied and kept their silence
How did you arrive at this figure?
all the engineers that were used the people in mission control the scientists you know anyone that had a hand in making or testing any parts or had a hand in helping put the men on the moon

On the old site someone went through and compiled a list of how many people would actually be required to know. I don't think it was above a few dozen and his reasoning was quite solid.
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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2014, 05:19:25 PM »
in excess of 400 000 people would of had to of lied and kept their silence
How did you arrive at this figure?
all the engineers that were used the people in mission control the scientists you know anyone that had a hand in making or testing any parts or had a hand in helping put the men on the moon

On the old site someone went through and compiled a list of how many people would actually be required to know. I don't think it was above a few dozen and his reasoning was quite solid.

A few dozen seems low, since you would have many times that amount "attending a launch".  That being said, 400,000 is a preposterous number.

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 10:10:13 PM »
that number would include all the guards as well and everyone involved in earlier tests like Gemini launches
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2014, 11:06:54 AM »
that number would include all the guards as well and everyone involved in earlier tests like Gemini launches

They are all dead now. Strange huh.

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2014, 11:28:12 AM »
that number would include all the guards as well and everyone involved in earlier tests like Gemini launches

They are all dead now. Strange huh.
care to provide evidence all of them are dead or do you wanna go meet buzz Aldrin yourself
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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 01:32:48 PM »
Do you have any evidence they are alive?

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2014, 01:35:39 AM »
in excess of 400 000 people would of had to of lied and kept their silence
How did you arrive at this figure?
all the engineers that were used the people in mission control the scientists you know anyone that had a hand in making or testing any parts or had a hand in helping put the men on the moon

On the old site someone went through and compiled a list of how many people would actually be required to know. I don't think it was above a few dozen and his reasoning was quite solid.

A few dozen seems low, since you would have many times that amount "attending a launch".  That being said, 400,000 is a preposterous number.

You mean the mission control? They can be given the information they're expecting. It's not like they're there on the ship.
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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2014, 09:42:17 AM »
that number would include all the guards as well and everyone involved in earlier tests like Gemini launches

They are all dead now. Strange huh.
care to provide evidence all of them are dead or do you wanna go meet buzz Aldrin yourself

Nice name dropping. One could argue that Buzz Aldrin doesn't even exist. The man playing him in video footage and recordings is an actor. I wouldn't be surprised if most people in your life were actually paid actors/actresses working for the government.

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 11:05:20 AM »
that number would include all the guards as well and everyone involved in earlier tests like Gemini launches

They are all dead now. Strange huh.
care to provide evidence all of them are dead or do you wanna go meet buzz Aldrin yourself


Nice name dropping. One could argue that Buzz Aldrin doesn't even exist. The man playing him in video footage and recordings is an actor. I wouldn't be surprised if most people in your life were actually paid actors/actresses working for the government.
so what everything I could use as evidence for the moon landings cant be used because apparently the government planted it. but on a side note why didn't the soviets point out they were fake and don't say they cooperated these were two countries that were prepared to end the world with a fight and several times came very close to doing it and wouldn't agree on anything basically, having the sworn enemy of the americans admit they landed on the moon is good evidence of it right
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2014, 04:11:55 PM »
The soviets only pretend to be at war so nobody suspects the earth is flat.

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2014, 12:14:02 PM »
yes helping any opposing faction to an American faction fight that faction is pretend, or do we all forget the soviet 'advisors' in korea and vietnam
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2014, 05:54:06 PM »
yes helping any opposing faction to an American faction fight that faction is pretend, or do we all forget the soviet 'advisors' in korea and vietnam

Do you have any evidence to substantiate this claim?

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2014, 11:59:07 AM »
Soviet advisors in Vietnam

During the Vietnam War, the Soviet Union provided technical and material assistance to its North Vietnamese ally. The Soviets sent air defense equipment and personnel to equip and train the North Vietnamese. Experienced Soviet Air Force pilots and maintenance personnel were sent to train and repair MiG aircraft flown by the North Vietnamese and to provide advice and assistance to North Vietnamese anti-air defense forces that were shooting down American combat aircraft with Soviet missile equipment.

About four years ago, the U.S. side began to gather evidence that Soviet officials directly interrogated American POWs in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. This project examined information from three primary sources: the testimony of former American POWs; the testimony of Soviet veterans of the Vietnam War who had knowledge of direct Soviet participation in POW interrogation; and U.S. Intelligence Community reports that suggest the Soviets sought or obtained direct access to American POWs for interrogation. The research conducted in support of this project shows that Soviet officials participated in interrogation of American POWs and received interrogation reports from the North Vietnamese. It is reasonable to assume that Soviet military officials generated these reports in North Vietnam and forwarded them to Moscow for processing. These interrogation reports should be available today in Russian archives [probably those of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) and the Committee for State Security (KGB)] and might contribute to clarifying the fates of unaccounted-for Americans. For this reason, the U.S. side seeks access to these materials.

Early in the Vietnam War, a Soviet special group, or "spetsgruppa," composed of GRU officers and employees from various Soviet military industrial organizations, was deployed to North Vietnam to acquire captured American combat equipment and to arrange for shipment of this equipment to the Soviet Union for technical exploitation. Although the U.S. has no interest in the classified aspects of this program, Soviet spetsgruppa members and technicians may be able to provide new details about shoot-down incidents in North Vietnam. For instance, in 1992, representatives of Task Force Russia (the predecessor of JCSD) discovered an F-111 crew capsule at the Moscow Aviation Institute. With assistance from FBI experts, Task Force Russia analysts correlated the capsule to a specific shoot-down incident. While the crew that was flying this particular F-111 is accounted for, discovery of the capsule in a Russian facility demonstrates the potential that American combat equipment now held by the Russians might provide clues to the fates of crew members who did not return. Archival records documenting the spetsgruppa’s work might also provide valuable information about American loss incidents during the war. The U.S. side has pressed the Russian side repeatedly for access to these archival materials and for interviews with spetsgruppa members and continues to press for more information. The Russian side has expressed a willingness to assist the U.S. side in locating spetsgruppa members but has yet to fulfill this promise.
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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2014, 12:05:21 PM »
or these links
-https://www.bu.edu/iscip/vol12/felgenhauer.html
-http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?action=read&artid=180
-http://russiapedia.rt.com/on-this-day/july-18/
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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2014, 12:10:42 PM »
so how do we explain the laser reflectors that are on the moon, or the photos that have been taken of the junk left on the moon and the fact a heap of independent people listened in on the transmissions or the fact there were many places outside of America that caught the images like parkes in new south wales and ive been there (they have this fully sick model of the dishes and you can move it around and a thing showing how they work outside you say something into one dish and you can hear it at the other, cool stuff)
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2014, 04:48:37 PM »
so how do we explain the laser reflectors that are on the moon

How does this prove we've been to the moon, as in... walked on it? We can easily launch things at the moon. That's how you get the laser reflector and other various debris on the moon.

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2014, 08:42:07 AM »
We were also supposedly shining lasers at them moon and receiving photons back over 5 years before the alleged first moon landing. 

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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2014, 08:56:53 AM »
We were also supposedly shining lasers at them moon and receiving photons back over 5 years before the alleged first moon landing.

Evidence?

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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2014, 09:14:52 AM »
We were also supposedly shining lasers at them moon and receiving photons back over 5 years before the alleged first moon landing.

Evidence?
MIT 1962?

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Re: Moon landing conspiracy makes you look silly
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2014, 03:00:08 PM »
We were also supposedly shining lasers at them moon and receiving photons back over 5 years before the alleged first moon landing.
What's your point?  Retroreflectors just make laser ranging easier and more accurate.
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