[Roundy]

He's a man who started out as poor and used politics to put himself in a position where he could live a comfortable life. Sounds pretty socialist to me.

[Pete Svarrior]

He's a man who started out as poor and used politics to put himself in a position where he could live a comfortable life. Sounds pretty socialist to me.

That's fine. I'm only criticising you for your "not rich" position, which continues to be pretty silly.

[Rushy]

I don't understand why people keep running with this. Do people really think that a net worth of 2 million as a senior citizen makes someone super wealthy?

Roundy, the man has three different houses. How many people do you know who just casually own multiple houses? How many senior citizens do you know that have net worths in the millions? Your family? Friends? I can't think of any that I know. It's not very common. It's not like the man's policies suddenly change based on how rich he is. There's no point in arguing that he isn't rich when he obviously is.

[Roundy]

I don't understand why people keep running with this. Do people really think that a net worth of 2 million as a senior citizen makes someone super wealthy?

Roundy, the man has three different houses. How many people do you know who just casually own multiple houses?

You don't know multiple people with a vacation home? I mean, I think that's more or less what you're saying (?) but I find it hard to believe.

[Rushy]

I don't understand why people keep running with this. Do people really think that a net worth of 2 million as a senior citizen makes someone super wealthy?

Roundy, the man has three different houses. How many people do you know who just casually own multiple houses?

You don't know multiple people with a vacation home? I mean, I think that's more or less what you're saying (?) but I find it hard to believe.

No? Most people I know can barely afford to go on vacation at all, much less own a house solely for the purpose of vacationing in it. Most people in America cannot afford to own a single home, Roundy, and yet you think having a vacation home is so common that people all over the place do it? Sounds incredibly disconnected from reality to me.

[Pete Svarrior]

Roundy has previously hinted at being out of touch with normal earners, but holy shit.

[Lord Dave]

Why are you people arguing over houses?
1. He works in DC and, by law, must have a residence in the state he represents, ie. Vermont.  So having two homes is almost a requirement for a senator.  Unless he represents a state close to DC.  Vermont is not close to DC.

2. The man makes $174,000/year as a senator.  Most people do not make anywhere near that so owning a home is harder, much less two or three.

3. He has lived in Vermont since 1968.  If he bought a house then, he'd have paid it off(30 year mortgage) by the time he was elected into the us house.  So buying a second home, not an issue.  And a vacation home, on a us congressman salary?  Not a big deal.

4. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8025835/amp/Take-peak-best-known-millionaire-socialist-Bernie-Sanders-three-homes.html

His homes.  A main home he's owned probably since before being mayor of the town he lives in.  Or maybe at the same time, dunno.
His second home is a one bedroom apartment in DC.  Where he works.  So not a house.
His third is a small lake side cabin costing about $567,000.

[Rushy]

Dave, when you cite sources, typically it's considered a courtesy not to cite sources behind a paywall. You're asking your audience to purchase something in the hopes it is relevant to your point (it isn't).

Buying a single $567,000 cabin means you're rich. Congratulations, you have proved that Bernie is rich. I have no idea why this was even being discussed, as it isn't relevant to his policies. The man is wealthy. It's not a big deal. Please stop pretending that he isn't.

[Pete Svarrior]

Dave, the man is in the top 5% net-worth-wise. The question isn't whether this is a big deal or not (it isn't), but stop pretending that the top 5% is average. It quite simply is not. Stop hurting your own cause and focus on simple facts.

[Lord Dave]

Dave, when you cite sources, typically it's considered a courtesy not to cite sources behind a paywall. You're asking your audience to purchase something in the hopes it is relevant to your point (it isn't).

Paywall?  Which one?  I ask because I have no payments to anything.  Found em on a simple google search and it let me in without issue.

Buying a single $567,000 cabin means you're rich. Congratulations, you have proved that Bernie is rich. I have no idea why this was even being discussed, as it isn't relevant to his policies. The man is wealthy. It's not a big deal. Please stop pretending that he isn't.

He's rich like a doctor, lawyer, or congressman.  Which I consider like lower level rich or normal for his job.
But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

[Pete Svarrior]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

[Lord Dave]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

I'm not.  I agree with everything you said.

[Rushy]

Paywall?  Which one?  I ask because I have no payments to anything.  Found em on a simple google search and it let me in without issue.

The one where the website says 'you must make an account and pay us for this premium statistic', Dave. If it's so easy for you to view, then I suggest you screenshot it.

[Lord Dave]

Paywall?  Which one?  I ask because I have no payments to anything.  Found em on a simple google search and it let me in without issue.

The one where the website says 'you must make an account and pay us for this premium statistic', Dave. If it's so easy for you to view, then I suggest you screenshot it.

And now it gives me the paywall.
Fucking hell.  I'll delete the link.

[Shane]

Went to a rally in the Boston Common, over 13k people in attendance, looking like he's gonna beat Warren in her home state.

[totallackey]

I don't understand why people keep running with this. Do people really think that a net worth of 2 million as a senior citizen makes someone super wealthy?

Roundy, the man has three different houses. How many people do you know who just casually own multiple houses?

You don't know multiple people with a vacation home? I mean, I think that's more or less what you're saying (?) but I find it hard to believe.

No roundy, I do not know multiple people with a vacation home...

I did hear of members of the Politburo having their favorite dachas though...much like Sanders...

[totallackey]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

It is a big deal and it is important to his policies.

It clearly demonstrates he is the biggest freaking hypocrite the world has seen in some time.

[Lord Dave]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

It is a big deal and it is important to his policies.

It clearly demonstrates he is the biggest freaking hypocrite the world has seen in some time.

How so?
Did he claim people should not be allowed to be rich?

[totallackey]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

It is a big deal and it is important to his policies.

It clearly demonstrates he is the biggest freaking hypocrite the world has seen in some time.

How so?
Did he claim people should not be allowed to be rich?

His policies will do nothing to help people maintain their current personal wealth, nor will they allow for further wealth to be created.

[Lord Dave]

But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.

Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?

It is a big deal and it is important to his policies.

It clearly demonstrates he is the biggest freaking hypocrite the world has seen in some time.

How so?
Did he claim people should not be allowed to be rich?

His policies will do nothing to help people maintain their current personal wealth, nor will they allow for further wealth to be created.

Wow.  Thats an amazing leap of logic.

Please, I must know how you came to that conclusion.  Be as detailed as possible.