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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 17, 2021, 11:46:29 PM »
Trump has made such a grift of suckering deranged conservatives that the culture produced Larry Elder. This moron had a website up, less than 12 hours after voting closed in the California recall, declaring he had proof of voter fraud. Clearly the plan was always to just assert fraud to inflame the fragile GOP base in to playing up their victimhood.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 05:39:56 PM »
irc is killing the forum

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 03:23:43 PM »
I see you haven’t been able to ignore me. I’m flattered.

Who is going to tell Tom that a gun shot wouldn’t be listed as the primary cause of death if someone gets shot through the heart?
Probably the same people who would count it as a gunshot death when offering up their feeble rhetoric concerning "WE NEED TO CONTROL YOUR GUNS!"

It is a gunshot death. This is how it works. The bullet or disease causes damage to the body which leads to a loss of function so severe it can not continue to live.

An anvil dropping on the head? Cause of death would be bone fractures and organ damage, not “anvil on head”.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 02:23:28 PM »
Who is going to tell Tom that a gun shot wouldn’t be listed as the primary cause of death if someone gets shot through the heart?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 11:24:37 AM »
He’s almost certainly vaccinated. He’s a descipable grifter, but he’s not an idiot.

Why are you slandering Mr. Carlson?  He's the only one with the courage to find this man in Trinidad with giant balls to clear Nicki Minaj's good name.



The hero we need.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 10:21:45 PM »
He’s almost certainly vaccinated. He’s a descipable grifter, but he’s not an idiot.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 07:28:09 PM »
I’m still not sure what the fuss is about. A vaccine that the FDA seems to have the same formulation as the EUA vaccine has been approved. Tom’s text wall just seems like he is trying to cope with the reality that vaccines aren’t killing people.

I wonder if Tom takes the threat of Covid seriously. It's already killed more Americans in less than 2 years then every war and conflict and terrorist act over the last 120 years.

Everyone is going to get covid eventually. Even I'm resigned to that fact. Maybe not this year or next, but as sure as I get a cold, I'll get covid.

Tom will too. Will he ensure he's protected as much as able? Or will we see him on sorry antivaxxer.com?

What are you talking about? If they are counting people who died of motorcycle accidents, unrelated ailments, alcohol poisonings, and chronically ill people who were previously given a few weeks to live as Covid deaths like it says in those quotes then you are being lied to and your premise is based on a falsity. Can you agree that if the quotes are true then your world view is false?

You consistently ignore available statistics on excess deaths. There are also agencies that say deaths have been undercounted. I know it would soothe your troubled soul if over 600,000 Americans had not in fact died from COVID, but that’s simply not the world we live in.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 10:19:40 AM »
 I’m still not sure what the fuss is about. A vaccine that the FDA seems to have the same formulation as the EUA vaccine has been approved. Tom’s text wall just seems like he is trying to cope with the reality that vaccines aren’t killing people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 08:03:11 PM »
Wow, it really feels like the Tom and Lackey are grasping at straws here. Comirnaty is the COVID vaccine that has been approved and is manufactured by Pfizer-Biontech. It’s indicated for vaccination against COVID-19. This is some serious mental gymnastics.

They approved a vaccine not available in the US. From the Senate letter:



This person claims to have surveyed clinics in Brookings, South Dakota. It wasn't availiable:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CxJ6WRsg00YJ:https://m.facebook.com/BrookingsRegister/posts/3903900656330827+&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



It says “not generally available” implying it’s available in some form. But hey if it’s not available in Brookings, South Dakota that MUST mean it hasn’t be approved. You know, approval and availability are totally the same thing. Like I said, some serious mental gymnastics going on.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 07:15:48 PM »
Wow, it really feels like the Tom and Lackey are grasping at straws here. Comirnaty is the COVID vaccine that has been approved and is manufactured by Pfizer-Biontech. It’s indicated for vaccination against COVID-19. This is some serious mental gymnastics.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 05:55:15 PM »
Why is Total Lackey implying the Pfizer vaccine hasn't been approved?  Is this some Qanon talking point?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 05:54:14 PM »
Even if the severe side effects for the vaccine are rare, some people have low immunity and bad health, fall into that risk area, and are being forced to endanger their health with an experimental vaccine.


The Pfizer Vaccine has been approved and has substantial data regarding it's safety and efficacy.  Experimental is a word you are using to politicize this.  Obviously no one wants anyone to suffer ill from taking the vaccine, but it's crucial to remember that every danger you can express about the vaccine is much more threatening if you contract the virus by orders of magnitude.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 13, 2021, 11:38:29 PM »
Yeah, the guy on the right is a tax lawer and the guy on the left is a Canadian litigator of some sort.
Seen videos from the bloke on the left before.
He spent months being wrong about the merit of all the cases Trump and his allies were filing. It’s nice to see he’s now turned his attention to (probably) being wrong about this.

To be fair, he’s probably just grifting people like Tom and Total Lackey for ad dollars.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 12, 2021, 01:43:25 AM »
He’s dishonoring the country by endorsing violence on 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself for defending this monstrosity.

I don't see Boxing to be unethical. It's an Olympic sport that many are proud of, FYI. I can understand why you are afraid of it, however.

People fight with cushions on their hands, and sometimes even on their heads, depending on what the regulators think is appropriate. Don't worry.


I am not surprised that you think violence should committed for entertainment on the day commemorating 9/11.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 12, 2021, 01:09:21 AM »
Hey Tom..
What's the official word on why Trump not attending the memorial service and instead commenting on a fight is actually good for America and the fight against Terror?

Not sure why you think that he has to attend one certain function on the event but not another. He went to New York and spoke to the police and fire departments:



He’s dishonoring the country by endorsing violence on 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself for defending this monstrosity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 11, 2021, 11:37:17 PM »
Hey Tom..
What's the official word on why Trump not attending the memorial service and instead commenting on a fight is actually good for America and the fight against Terror?

At least no one can accuse him of checking his watch, right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 11, 2021, 12:55:41 PM »
It’s some serious doublethink to call people who are emphasizing a public health initiative sociopaths and the ones making a selfish choice empathetic.
Meh, you could reverse that argument by calling one group in favour of individual rights and freedoms, and the other group as clamping down on those freedoms. Mandatory/forced medical treatment has never been popular, and probably never will be.

I get that but sociopathic is a hilariously inept adjective to apply. Vaccines are already mandatory in a number of realms and Id bet 90% of the vaccine hesitant are vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetanus, et. al. The hesitancy seems a perfect case study in human’s being closer to cavemen than we are comfortable with; a fight or flight playing out across an entire civilization.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 11, 2021, 09:55:06 AM »
But I don’t like the idea of those who choose not to being treated like second class citizens who can’t get certain jobs or travel or go to certain venues

This absurd dystopia is really seperating the empathatic/human from the callous/sociopath.  It is a test of principles that most are failing, willingly and with righteous indignation.

Lo and behold, could it be?

AATW is one of the good ones!

I had a hunch :)

It’s some serious doublethink to call people who are emphasizing a public health initiative sociopaths and the ones making a selfish choice empathetic.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 11, 2021, 09:52:19 AM »
All other factors being equal, vaccinated patients should get treated before unvaccinated people. That’s just basic triage.
Don’t your prioritise the people who are more ill (unless they have no chance of survival)? In which case shouldn’t it be the opposite?

So the important part is that I said “all other factors being equal”. Triaging isn’t just about treating who is the sickest, it’s also about what resources will provide the most benefit. This only applies to the most dire cases though.


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I think people should get vaccinated but I’m finding this “two tier society” which is being created unsettling. I don’t think that is part of some “government plot”. People can, after all, choose to get vaccinated. But I don’t like the idea of those who choose not to being treated like second class citizens who can’t get certain jobs or travel or go to certain venues

If people wish to continue to make the choice to be a public health risk in the face of a safe, free and accessible solution, then it seems to be perfectly reasonable.


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