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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 19, 2024, 07:38:05 AM »D’oh! I meant…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68329886
Heard about that. Probably made in China.
And at $300, more expensive than Nike.
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Heard about that. Probably made in China.
And at $300, more expensive than Nike.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:59 PM »Grifter’s gotta grift
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68280754
That links to a video about how crowded Rafah is.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 17, 2024, 01:37:51 PM »I can't think of anyone off hand.There surely has to be someone else who is vaguely popular and who has the mental ability to be the president. No?Well, you said it made sense for Biden not to drop out. It doesn't.Who would even replace him?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 17, 2024, 10:13:31 AM »Well, you said it made sense for Biden not to drop out. It doesn't.Who would even replace him?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 16, 2024, 05:40:37 PM »Sitting presidents generally aren't primaried at all, to say nothing of the unique degree of loyalty and devotion that Trump's fans show him, so it makes no sense to compare this to other primaries to begin with. Obviously this is a unique situation. Your other point seems to more concerned with some imaginary game of saving face rather than winning the election. Refusing to address an obvious weakness simply because your opponent has already identified that weakness and you don't want to admit that they were right is insanity.
At what point did I claim US politics were sane?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 16, 2024, 01:05:15 PM »Liberals aren't looking too confident about this to me. Apparently The Atlantic is shocked that Joe Biden would put his own self-regard ahead of the good of the country. They are begging for the DNC to pick a new candidate.https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1757411805868036201
It makes sense not to.
If you pick a new candidate you're signaling that your current guy is weak. And if he's weak, Trump is correct, so what else is he right about?
Its no different than choosing not to let Trump get primaried in 2020. If they did, he'd look weak and maybe the dems were right.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 15, 2024, 06:07:09 PM »They spend it on healthcare and other welfare benefits.In fairness, Russia can't even take over a relatively small and weak nation with the largely outdated equipment they have. I don't think an invasion would be noticed before it was wiped out.
You mean Russia can't do it while America is busy giving 200 billion dollars in financial and materiel aid to Ukraine.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like Russia. I want them to lose. My problem is that European nations, particularly those in the EU, are hooked on US military assistance. The wealthy nations of the EU could easily afford a much bigger, more robust military industry. Yet, they don't have one. Why? No one seems to give a decent answer.
It's amusing to me that Trump telling European nations to raise their defense budget and making fun of them for not doing it is somehow deemed not only anti-NATO but also pro-Russia. Because obviously Putin's 4D chess involves Germany, France and the UK having larger military budgets, somehow...
Tho now I wonder if they're in debt all the time too. The US budget is always a trillion more than its income. Inshould look up the other nations in the EU and compare.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 15, 2024, 05:26:23 PM »NATO was created to balance the geopolitical power against a nation that dissolved over 30 years ago. Now it exists for the US to subsidize the EU's defense budget. It's pathetic that the EU still needs it, and it does still need it, but that doesn't mean we should keep bothering with it.
The last time Trump told Germany to increase their defense budget, they literally laughed at him. In my opinion, maybe the EU really does need a Russian invasion as a wake-up call that they don't live in a magical fantasy utopia where big brother US will protect them forever. The current state of the EU's defense forces is a joke, collectively their economy is many times larger than Russia's, yet their conventional military is barely a quarter of Russia's.
Hell, we had to blow up the Nordstream pipeline just to stop Germany from giving Putin more money! How long must the US protect Europeans from themselves. Forever? Were two world wars not enough to teach them their lesson?
In fairness, Russia can't even take over a relatively small and weak nation with the largely outdated equipment they have. I don't think an invasion would be noticed before it was wiped out.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 14, 2024, 05:55:29 AM »Oh my God, Dave, just let it go. These tête-à-têtes with him never go anywhere.He fuels my hate, giving me the strength to vote Democrat.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 13, 2024, 07:45:12 PM »Some are, yes. Would you like to point out the relevant ones? Or is every election ever rigged?I am relatively sure you do not understand the definition of relevance, only to then claim that some elections are not somehow relevant, given your attempt to recast the rigged 2016 Democrat primary as "technically not rigged."
Quote
Actual history is that elections are rigged.You tell me how I'm supposed to interprite this. All elections, only American elections? Only elections where Trump ran?
And I say technically because they didn't change the results, did they? They simply backed Clinton before the primary results. A bad move on their part.
Much like how the RNC is backing Trump before he's the nominee.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 13, 2024, 12:39:06 PM »Some are, yes. Would you like to point out the relevant ones? Or is every election ever rigged?Actual history is that elections are rigged.ITT^LD claims revisionist history and opinion articles count more than actual live events.Technically the primary wasn't rigged, the DNC promoted one candidate over others.ITT^LD asking why rigged elections are bad and querying why the DNC would want to make sure a lifelong Democrat (aka TRUMP) would win.I'm more interested in why thats something you think is bad?FTFYOh no, they publicly displayed the DNC's very weird emails where you learned that the DNC was corrupt! Good thing you made sure to just get mad at Russia about it instead of trying to fix any corruption.That's completely irrelevant and you know it. Putin did not target the DNC and release their emails out of a sense of altruism or opposition to corruption. He did it to pursue his own political agenda, one that happens to be deeply hostile to America and its interests. That's election interference. The fact that you personally don't care about it and don't think it should be a crime (something that you have in common with Trump) doesn't change the fact that it is a crime and it is something that this nation takes very seriously.Never mind the fact that if the DNC did not rig the primary tto begin with, there would have been nothing to disclose. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
By rigging it for Clinton, Trump was able to win.
The DNC intentionally made sure Trump would win!
Kinda like how the RNC kept Trump from being primaries in 2020.
Oh, so your history is that the democrats rigged the 2016 election so Trump would win?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 13, 2024, 09:08:48 AM »None of what Trump said is detestable.Because of the word I bolded. You don't care what he said, he said it so it's OK.
If someone you don't like says something then it's "bad". Again, not because of what's said, because of who said it.
You're either programmed beyond hope or trolling. It doesn't really matter which, neither leads to productive debate.
You seem to believe that I secretly care deeply about NATO allies. I do not.
I don't care if Estonia gets invaded. Why should I?
Global economic disruption.
When Ukraine was invaded, food prices soared. Why? Ukraine had a large grain export. That export stopped. Supplies dropped while demand didn't. Thus, increase in prices.
Russian gas was also basically cut off, making energy prices just through the roof for Europeans.
The oil market saw the sanctioning of Russia and that caused oil prices to jump. Again, less supply, same demand.
Also: The Conquror reason. The more territory an enemy takes, the longer it'll take to stop them, if you can.
Estonia being invaded would make trade between the nordic nations and Europe much more difficult and dangerous as Russia would have a way to blockaid the Baltic sea. Or at least some of it. Which is going to disrupt trade and the markets will adjust upwards as a reault.
But you'll just blame Biden and feel better. Because you don't want to do anything else.
Of course
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 10:54:35 PM »ITT^LD claims revisionist history and opinion articles count more than actual live events.Technically the primary wasn't rigged, the DNC promoted one candidate over others.ITT^LD asking why rigged elections are bad and querying why the DNC would want to make sure a lifelong Democrat (aka TRUMP) would win.I'm more interested in why thats something you think is bad?FTFYOh no, they publicly displayed the DNC's very weird emails where you learned that the DNC was corrupt! Good thing you made sure to just get mad at Russia about it instead of trying to fix any corruption.That's completely irrelevant and you know it. Putin did not target the DNC and release their emails out of a sense of altruism or opposition to corruption. He did it to pursue his own political agenda, one that happens to be deeply hostile to America and its interests. That's election interference. The fact that you personally don't care about it and don't think it should be a crime (something that you have in common with Trump) doesn't change the fact that it is a crime and it is something that this nation takes very seriously.Never mind the fact that if the DNC did not rig the primary tto begin with, there would have been nothing to disclose. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
By rigging it for Clinton, Trump was able to win.
The DNC intentionally made sure Trump would win!
Kinda like how the RNC kept Trump from being primaries in 2020.
Oh, so your history is that the democrats rigged the 2016 election so Trump would win?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 05:53:03 PM »Technically the primary wasn't rigged, the DNC promoted one candidate over others.ITT^LD asking why rigged elections are bad and querying why the DNC would want to make sure a lifelong Democrat (aka TRUMP) would win.I'm more interested in why thats something you think is bad?FTFYOh no, they publicly displayed the DNC's very weird emails where you learned that the DNC was corrupt! Good thing you made sure to just get mad at Russia about it instead of trying to fix any corruption.That's completely irrelevant and you know it. Putin did not target the DNC and release their emails out of a sense of altruism or opposition to corruption. He did it to pursue his own political agenda, one that happens to be deeply hostile to America and its interests. That's election interference. The fact that you personally don't care about it and don't think it should be a crime (something that you have in common with Trump) doesn't change the fact that it is a crime and it is something that this nation takes very seriously.Never mind the fact that if the DNC did not rig the primary tto begin with, there would have been nothing to disclose. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
By rigging it for Clinton, Trump was able to win.
The DNC intentionally made sure Trump would win!
Kinda like how the RNC kept Trump from being primaries in 2020.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 05:43:00 PM »No, wolves do not do that.Trump is on the right track here.lol. There’s a good cult member.
Trump loves people like you, you’re so easy to program. Literally doesn’t matter what he says.QuoteYou guys should pay the amount you agreed to for protection. America shouldn't protect dead beats.Well, that seems fairly reasonable.
But encourage?
The mental backflips you do to justify anything your cult leader says or does are ridiculous. You’d come across as more credible if you were more honest. You don’t believe America should actively encourage nations to attack NATO nations just because they haven’t paid.
The NATO expectations are very reasonable. Each country is expected to contribute 2% of GDP. An alliance is a two way street. You can't just take. If you are not contributing then you are putting everyone else in danger by using the alliance's infrastructure and resources to cover you. How is NATO supposed to protect everyone if they have multiple military bases and high tech infrastructure that they are maintaining in your territory that you are not paying for?
Wolf packs are known to drive out or kill the sick or injured members in their packs, and arguably rightly so. It slows them down and invites predators. None of what Trump said is detestable.
Also, lacking an understanding of why NATO exists is not a shock.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 01:31:09 PM »I'm more interested in why thats something you think is bad?FTFYOh no, they publicly displayed the DNC's very weird emails where you learned that the DNC was corrupt! Good thing you made sure to just get mad at Russia about it instead of trying to fix any corruption.That's completely irrelevant and you know it. Putin did not target the DNC and release their emails out of a sense of altruism or opposition to corruption. He did it to pursue his own political agenda, one that happens to be deeply hostile to America and its interests. That's election interference. The fact that you personally don't care about it and don't think it should be a crime (something that you have in common with Trump) doesn't change the fact that it is a crime and it is something that this nation takes very seriously.Never mind the fact that if the DNC did not rig the primary tto begin with, there would have been nothing to disclose. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
By rigging it for Clinton, Trump was able to win.
The DNC intentionally made sure Trump would win!
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 08:28:47 AM »QuoteHe recalled that the leader of a "big country" had presented a hypothetical situation in which he was not meeting his financial obligations within Nato and had come under attack from Moscow.
Mr Trump said the leader had asked if the US would come to his country's aid in that scenario, which prompted him to issue a rebuke.
"I said: 'You didn't pay? You're delinquent?'... 'No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay.'"
Trump is on the right track here. You guys should pay the amount you agreed to for protection. America shouldn't protect dead beats.
Ah, the Mob mentality. Good to know.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 11, 2024, 08:03:04 PM »
I'm starting to like Nikki Haley.
Apparently Trump made a jab about how her husband isn't with her on the camapign trail. To which she replies:
“Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about. Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.”
I'd love to see those two on a debate stage. She'd eat him alive.
Also, Trump's research team needs to step up their game cause they should have told him before he said it (if that was possible).
Apparently Trump made a jab about how her husband isn't with her on the camapign trail. To which she replies:
“Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about. Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.”
I'd love to see those two on a debate stage. She'd eat him alive.
Also, Trump's research team needs to step up their game cause they should have told him before he said it (if that was possible).
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:10:26 AM »So your answer is to say that Republicans don't exist? Oh dear... You're really out of touch.Why haven't you caught on there are no "Republicans"?Then why hasn't a new aid bill passed already? Surely it would have been easy back in December when the talks began, yes?Strawmen? The claim was Republicans are for Putin.Holy shit, I think that all the news I read about BILLIONS IN AID to the Ukraine must have been FAKE NEWS!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-05/trump-house-gop-leaders-reject-senate-border-ukraine-aid-deal
They are not.
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts#:~:text=The%20Joe%20Biden%20administration%20and,Economy%2C%20a%20German%20research%20institute.
Really... You're need to build strawmen needs to be controlled. No where did I say the US sent no Aid. I'm also referring to recent events.
Like this one:
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2023/12/06/ukraine-aid-in-peril-as-senate-republicans-walk-out-of-heated-briefing/
The last aid package to be passed was part of the overall 2023 budget and not a separate bill.
Specifically:
H.R.2617 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023
Which had only 11 nay or not voting (all republicans).
So why are they against it now?
Republicans are supporting Ukraine against Putin.
"Recent events..." LOL...