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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 22, 2025, 07:18:11 AM »

ITT: RE adherents learn that mistakes are committed on a regular basis. RE adherents claim they should not happen.

This is literally nothing to do with RE.
Yes, mistakes happen. But evaluate them honestly and consistently, I don't think that's an unreasonable ask.
The issue with the MAGA lot is their reaction to events and evaluation of them is not based on what happened but who did it.
That is not an honest or consistent way of evaluating things.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 01:23:05 PM »

There was a correlation between stage 5 and a Gleason score of 9 as to how severe cancer is, so that little "gotcha moment," is a fucking nothingburger from RE as usual.

There is no stage 5 cancer either.

Don't confuse him with facts.

I have now seen the Tweet or whatever message it was (TruthSocial?) from Trump about it, which was appropriately sympathetic and, whisper it quietly, even presidential. It's just a shame when asked about it he couldn't help himself making it about him and how he's aceing cognitive tests and going on about Biden's cognitive decline - which is undeniable, but not really the time or the place.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 11:00:42 AM »

It's a cancer grading system, which means it can be called a stage. Minimal research would have saved you the effort of being wrong again:

I think it's pretty clear Trump mixed up the stage of cancer with the Gleason score, but I can agree that even if he did and misspoke somewhat, it's not a "calling Zelensky Putin" level mix-up.

So moving on, what do you make of Trump being asked about Biden and immediately changing the subject to how good his own health was and then going on about Biden's cognitive decline?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 10:23:22 AM »

Trump is correct in both his choice of terminology

Nope. He said "stage 9".
Twice.
The word "stage" doesn't even appear on the web page you linked to. Whoopsie!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 05:43:55 AM »

He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

Then why haven't you expressed your sympathies or sadness like a normal person would do in the two posts you've made about this now?

So you agree that Trump’s comments are indefensible and are reduced to changing the subject and a weak attempt at whataboutism.
Good to know.

I’m not the POTUS and haven’t been asked for comment. Trump has. So let me try again. What do you think of Trump’s comments? And do you agree that his repeated use of the phrase “stage 9” demonstrates his own cognitive decline? Which is ironic when being given the opportunity to express sympathy for another human he instead switches to boasting about his own health.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2025, 09:13:05 PM »

What the utter fuck is he talking about?



Twice he says Biden has "stage 9" cancer, which isn't a thing, while saying how well he'd done on his cognitive tests.
The rest is an utter ramble. He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: May 18, 2025, 08:48:31 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwywqg7lq1zo

Biden diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 16, 2025, 08:35:59 AM »

Your argument assumes that every gift received by Trump as president comes with an expectation of future favors, but this view oversimplifies the dynamics of gift-giving in diplomacy and politics. Gifts from foreign governments or corporations are often ceremonial

Oh it's a ceremonial $400m plane. OK, champ. Nothing to see here then.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 14, 2025, 03:24:15 PM »

"Trump announces deals with Qatar after praising 'tough, attractive' Syrian president"

lol

nohomo.
What a weird thing to say.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 14, 2025, 11:40:22 AM »

Tom. Hey! I'm not in a cult! Stop saying that MAGA is a cult!
Also Tom...

Why would he keep it when it can be a main feature of a major tourist destination dedicated to the Trump Presidency and further immortalize him?

All Hail Our Supreme Leader, May His Name Live On Forever!! #notacult

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Physicist Brian Cox on Universal Acceleration

« on: May 13, 2025, 08:55:44 AM »

Things do not "fall" to the ground. The so-called "falling" is nothing more than the result of the Earth accelerating upwards at 9.8 m/s², as evidenced by direct observations and experiments.

Then why do your cherry-picked quotes not say that then. Literally the first one you quote says:

In both situations you are accelerating upwards. In the latter situation it is the lift that is responsible for your acceleration. In the former, it is the fact that the Earth is solid that pushes you upwards through space-time

And:

That the surface of the Earth can accelerate upwards at every point on its surface, and remain as a solid object, is because it exists in a curved space-time and not in a flat space.

Once again you've quoted something which doesn't even say what you're trying to pretend it says.
And in your model why doesn't the acceleration mean the earth is now going faster than the speed of light? Don't worry, bro, special relativity has you covered:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration#Why_doesn.27t_the_Earth.27s_velocity_reach_the_speed_of_light.3F

Cherry picking again. You dismiss Special Relativity as some "abstract explanation" when it suits you, you accept and use it to explain other things when it suits you.
It's so intellectually dishonest. And once again you conflate "I don't understand this" with "this can't be true". The rest of your post is a box set of your arguments from incredulity. As a "wise" man once said:

Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 12, 2025, 07:28:11 AM »

So Trump's meme coin is now an official currency for political donations and subject to the same laws there of?

Or is it a private investment meant to be used by private citizen Trump?

It's whatever it needs to be for Tom to pretend that thisisfine.jpg.
I enjoyed the fact that Tom also admitted that Trump is such a poor businessman that he "does not have control over whether he is successful"
lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 10, 2025, 01:56:56 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyglw20lg2o

Maybe he’s Jesus first, which I think is one of the qualifications

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 10, 2025, 08:47:40 AM »

This is wrong as well. The only requirement to be US President is that you are over the age of 35, a resident of the United States for over 14 years, and be a natural-born citizen. Everything else is your personalized whiney rant of the day about what you think a president should do or how they should conduct their business interests.

You know what, you're right.

If a president wants to lie repeatedly, use his position of power to further enrich himself and his mates, make decisions which push the country in to the brink of recession, take no responsibility for anything and blame everyone but himself for his failings and just generally act like a complete asshat on the world stage and make himself and by association your country a complete laughing stock then you're right, there's no requirements to stop him doing any of that.

And yes, because of the MAGA Cult he gets away with it.
Where we differ is I don't actually think it's a good thing. I'd rather have a world leader with honestly, integrity and competence.
I'm a bit of an old traditionalist when it comes to stuff like that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 09, 2025, 04:34:54 PM »

Uttered like someone who has absolutely no problem with Zelensky having enriched himself via graft from US taxpayer dollars since he has been in office.

If that's true then I'd agree that is also wrong.
See? It's called logical consistency. You should try it some time.

^Does not even investigate enough to prevent himself from posting a sentence containing the words."if that's true..."

I don't need to investigate anything. You're the one making the claim, it's incumbent on you to evidence it.
But either you think that using positions of power to enrich oneself is OK or it isn't OK. I'm going to go with "isn't OK".
It's not right when Trump does it, it's not right if Zelensky does it - a claim you have made but been unable to evidence.
The trouble with the MAGA lot is they decide what they think about something depending on who did it.
If it's their Cult Leader in Chief then it's OK, he is their Supreme Leader who can do no wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 09, 2025, 03:15:34 PM »

Uttered like someone who has absolutely no problem with Zelensky having enriched himself via graft from US taxpayer dollars since he has been in office.

If that's true then I'd agree that is also wrong.
See? It's called logical consistency. You should try it some time.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 09, 2025, 06:11:43 AM »

I was looking at Arnie’s IMDB page. He did a few things but there’s a noticeable gap when he was the Governator. Because he had a different job.
Being President is not a side gig, neither should it be used as an opportunity to further enrich oneself.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 09:46:50 PM »

This is obviously bullshit. When you appoint or vote someone to a certain role you expect them to do that role and act professionally.

Actually no, why would you vote for someone and then expect them to act completely different?

Because they're in a different role which requires them to.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 08:59:15 PM »

More directly, if as Ukrainian President Zelensky went on stage and did the bit where he plays the piano with his testicles again, no one would bat an eye. He would lose no popularity, simply because that is the person they voted for. They would clap and call it hilarious.

This is obviously bullshit. When you appoint or vote someone to a certain role you expect them to do that role and act professionally.
When Sebastian Coe became an MP he didn't run laps of the House of Commons during debates and had he done so literally no-one would have said "What did you expect? You elected an Olympic runner!"

Trump is unconventional and in a way that's not a bad thing. The issues with him are the complete lack of honesty, integrity and strategy.
You MAGA lot might not care, but I'd suggest these are not ideal traits in a leader. Your strategy for coping with it is to either not care or simply pretend those things aren't true.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 04:38:03 PM »

Up to a point. Zelensky was a comedian before he went in to politics. I don't think the people of Ukraine elected him and then expected him to go on another standup tour or launch a new TV comedy series. Whatever background someone has, you elect someone to run the country, not to enrich themselves.

Actually Zelensky proves that the rules of traditional politics don't apply to stars. There is a video segment of Zelensky playing the piano with his testicles in front of an audience. If a traditional politician went on stage and did it, or if previously filmed segment was uncovered and publicized as they were campaigning, this would be career ending for them. For a traditional politician a video of them pants down in front of a piano would be professionally embarrassing and they would get rejected by their party, or they would have to resign. Zelensky got away with it because he was a media and comedic star, and his antics even gained him popularity.

Zelensky may not be using humor anymore in his role as president, but if he had continued with it he would assuredly get away with a lot.

There is something in what you're saying.
But there's a difference between Zelensky using humour in his speeches - which many politicians do anyway (often with...mixed results) and him launching a new comedy show or stand up tour. If he did those things I suspect there would be a feeling of "shouldn't you be running the country?"

You are right that Trump gets away with stuff which other politicians wouldn't. I just don't see that as a good thing. I'd prefer leaders to have integrity.