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NRA takes down video which sounds real
« on: June 30, 2016, 10:54:22 AM »
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/nra-complaint-takes-down-38000-websites

Summary: Yes Men parody video is on a site published by surge.sh web publishing.
NRA sends legal stop notice.
All of surge.sh is shut down.


Now this is shit, obviously, but what of the parody's actual topic?  The NRA often talks of arming everyone so it seems to me that while its a parody, its an idea they should get behind: free guns for the poor.  Just imagine how much safer America would be if the homeless, poverty stricken, and ghetto stuck people were armed with firearms and bullets for free?

I think they should legitimately do this.  Then we can see how it affects crime. :)
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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 09:53:22 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 09:54:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?
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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 09:57:36 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?

I'd be interesting to see what happens if literally everyone in the ghetto had guns instead of just the gangs. We'll call it: The War for Chicago. The Battle of Detroit. The Flint Massacre.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 10:13:51 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?

I'd be interesting to see what happens if literally everyone in the ghetto had guns instead of just the gangs. We'll call it: The War for Chicago. The Battle of Detroit. The Flint Massacre.

No, it would literally make them the safest place on Earth.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 10:15:41 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?

I'd be interesting to see what happens if literally everyone in the ghetto had guns instead of just the gangs. We'll call it: The War for Chicago. The Battle of Detroit. The Flint Massacre.

No, it would literally make them the safest place on Earth.

It might. They already have the worst murder rates in the country, might as well start dicking around to see if this changes things.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 11:02:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?

I'd be interesting to see what happens if literally everyone in the ghetto had guns instead of just the gangs. We'll call it: The War for Chicago. The Battle of Detroit. The Flint Massacre.

No, it would literally make them the safest place on Earth.

It might. They already have the worst murder rates in the country, might as well start dicking around to see if this changes things.
Well... if most of the people died, that would make it pretty damn safe afterwards, right?
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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 04:19:45 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of America's ghetto's are riddled with bullets already.
Yes but criminals with guns.
Imagine if it wasn't just the criminals with guns?

I'd be interesting to see what happens if literally everyone in the ghetto had guns instead of just the gangs. We'll call it: The War for Chicago. The Battle of Detroit. The Flint Massacre.

No, it would literally make them the safest place on Earth.

It might. They already have the worst murder rates in the country, might as well start dicking around to see if this changes things.
Well... if most of the people died, that would make it pretty damn safe afterwards, right?

An armed society is a polite society.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 05:27:06 PM »
As demonstrated in Dallas yesterday.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2016, 08:05:46 PM »
As demonstrated in Dallas yesterday.

Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2016, 08:17:01 PM »
Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

You think the guys shooting police didn't think the police would shoot back?

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2016, 08:28:47 PM »
Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

You think the guys shooting police didn't think the police would shoot back?

What kind of stupid question is that? No Shit Sherlock. Yep the police are known to shoot back. But police are in nice easy to see uniforms while the people  with the CCW and permission to open fire are NOT.

Would YOU shoot at cops if you knew a thousand people NOT in uniform ARE GOING to shoot back?

You know, that thing between your ears? It is not there just to hold your ear apart and to keep you eyes from rolling down to your toes. USE it once in a while.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2016, 08:32:01 PM »
Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

You think the guys shooting police didn't think the police would shoot back?

What kind of stupid question is that? No Shit Sherlock. Yep the police are known to shoot back. But police are in nice easy to see uniforms while the people  with the CCW and permission to open fire are NOT.

Would YOU shoot at cops if you knew a thousand people NOT in uniform ARE GOING to shoot back?

I wouldn't shoot at cops whether I had a good chance of surviving or not.  These guys would.  I think they probably knew they weren't going to get away with it, but did it for The CauseTM.

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You know, that thing between your ears? It is not there just to hold your ear apart and to keep you eyes from rolling down to your toes. USE it once in a while.

Wow, that's inappropriate!

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2016, 08:49:38 PM »
Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

You think the guys shooting police didn't think the police would shoot back?

What kind of stupid question is that? No Shit Sherlock. Yep the police are known to shoot back. But police are in nice easy to see uniforms while the people  with the CCW and permission to open fire are NOT.

Would YOU shoot at cops if you knew a thousand people NOT in uniform ARE GOING to shoot back?

I wouldn't shoot at cops whether I had a good chance of surviving or not.  These guys would.  I think they probably knew they weren't going to get away with it, but did it for The CauseTM.

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You know, that thing between your ears? It is not there just to hold your ear apart and to keep you eyes from rolling down to your toes. USE it once in a while.

Wow, that's inappropriate!

Then make the cost of "The cause" too freaking high.

Here is what I don't understand. the FBI UCR  has two glaring facts that the media avoid reporting. A cop kills a Black, on average, once in 28 HOURS. But Blacks kill other Blacks on average of one every 65 minutes.

Black lives matter ONLY and IF it is NOT a Black person doing the killing. Where is the demand for the heads of Black gang leaders? Where are the witnesses  when the gangs committee murder?

IF the Black community would be as active with videos etc with Black on Black crimes as they are with cops. Cities would be safe 24/7.

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2016, 08:54:30 PM »

Then make the cost of "The cause" too freaking high.

Kill their family too?

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Here is what I don't understand. the FBI UCR  has two glaring facts that the media avoid reporting. A cop kills a Black, on average, once in 28 HOURS. But Blacks kill other Blacks on average of one every 65 minutes.

Black lives matter ONLY and IF it is NOT a Black person doing the killing. Where is the demand for the heads of Black gang leaders? Where are the witnesses  when the gangs committee murder?

I think their problem is with a combination of the murder and the lack of culpability that goes along with it. 

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IF the Black community would be as active with videos etc with Black on Black crimes as they are with cops. Cities would be safe 24/7.

Unlikely.

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2016, 10:33:44 PM »
Looks like the hero of the Dallas story was a robot used to deliver a bomb.

#regulateguns #deregulatebombs

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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2016, 05:43:38 AM »
Only if the bad guys KNOW that people in crowd WILL shot back. Even better would be if the media and police and DC made heroes out those that fought back

You think the guys shooting police didn't think the police would shoot back?

What kind of stupid question is that? No Shit Sherlock. Yep the police are known to shoot back. But police are in nice easy to see uniforms while the people  with the CCW and permission to open fire are NOT.

Would YOU shoot at cops if you knew a thousand people NOT in uniform ARE GOING to shoot back?

I wouldn't shoot at cops whether I had a good chance of surviving or not.  These guys would.  I think they probably knew they weren't going to get away with it, but did it for The CauseTM.

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You know, that thing between your ears? It is not there just to hold your ear apart and to keep you eyes from rolling down to your toes. USE it once in a while.

Wow, that's inappropriate!

Then make the cost of "The cause" too freaking high.

Here is what I don't understand. the FBI UCR  has two glaring facts that the media avoid reporting. A cop kills a Black, on average, once in 28 HOURS. But Blacks kill other Blacks on average of one every 65 minutes.

Black lives matter ONLY and IF it is NOT a Black person doing the killing. Where is the demand for the heads of Black gang leaders? Where are the witnesses  when the gangs committee murder?

IF the Black community would be as active with videos etc with Black on Black crimes as they are with cops. Cities would be safe 24/7.

Ummm... black, white, latino, asian, ect... gang leaders are already wanted and will be arrested for their crimes if caught.  Also, gang motivated, race isn't relevant.

Cops... less so.  Also, its usually gang on gang violence.  Why is that equal to cop on innocent civillian violence?

Also, this whole issue is saying "If you are a legal gun owner, cops will shoot you for no reason.". You want that?
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Re: NRA takes down video which sounds real
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2016, 10:00:34 PM »

So the cops have five men down and suddenly everyone on the street pulls guns! Can't see that going bad.
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