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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2016, 04:30:16 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

“They didn’t raise their son right. He attacked a complete stranger and attempted to kill him,” Zimmerman said of Martin.

Seeing that line alone, how can anyone disagree? Zimmerman isn't white either. And yeah, you probably shouldn't fucking attack someone even if they're following you. It's completely legal to follow someone. It's not legal to attack someone just because they're following you.

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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2016, 05:11:27 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

Hmm, maybe if he didn't attack people on sight he wouldn't have been suspected.
Dead.
He was suspected prior to attacking george.  By george.

Also, I'm an admitted racist?  Not saying your wrong but I don't remember where I said it.  Or saying it.

Hmm, maybe his suspicions were confirmed were the person he suspected attacked him.

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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2016, 05:34:32 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

“They didn’t raise their son right. He attacked a complete stranger and attempted to kill him,” Zimmerman said of Martin.

Seeing that line alone, how can anyone disagree?

Tact, social norms, basic human decency, respect for the dead, sympathy for a grieving family, etc.  Yes, as far as the law goes, Zimmerman was legally justified in using deadly force.  That doesn't make him a hero whose actions need to be cheered or celebrated, it doesn't make Martin or his family villains who need to be further insulted or demonized, and it doesn't make this event anything less than a tragedy that shouldn't have happened.

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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2016, 06:32:09 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

Hmm, maybe if he didn't attack people on sight he wouldn't have been suspected.
Dead.
He was suspected prior to attacking george.  By george.

Also, I'm an admitted racist?  Not saying your wrong but I don't remember where I said it.  Or saying it.

Hmm, maybe his suspicions were confirmed were the person he suspected attacked him.
Maybe.  Maybe Martin was the burgler that was terrorizing the neighborhood.

We will never know. 

Anyway, I've said my peace so unless you have something you'd like to discuss further, I'm gonna bow out.
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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2016, 06:39:03 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

“They didn’t raise their son right. He attacked a complete stranger and attempted to kill him,” Zimmerman said of Martin.

Seeing that line alone, how can anyone disagree?

Tact, social norms, basic human decency, respect for the dead, sympathy for a grieving family, etc.  Yes, as far as the law goes, Zimmerman was legally justified in using deadly force.  That doesn't make him a hero whose actions need to be cheered or celebrated, it doesn't make Martin or his family villains who need to be further insulted or demonized, and it doesn't make this event anything less than a tragedy that shouldn't have happened.
Seriously? Lord Dave doesn't even have tact when discussing Zimmerman, he literally said he would like to murder him. But you think Zimmerman should be held to a higher standard when complete strangers assume he's guilty and want to murder him?

Talk about double standards.

I never said he was a hero. Honestly, he sounds like an asshole. But he's right in this case, regardless of how hard that truth is.

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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2016, 07:58:28 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

First place TM was acting suspiciously. Second Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, and third so what? If the burglaries were made by a white gang then would you suspect a black guy? If the burglaries were made by teenagers are you going to suspect granny?
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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2016, 08:43:55 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

First place TM was acting suspiciously. Second Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, and third so what? If the burglaries were made by a white gang then would you suspect a black guy? If the burglaries were made by teenagers are you going to suspect granny?

.... huh?
I'm very confused.
My point is that the burglaries were suspected of being made by a black person.  Thus, any suspicious looking black people would be more of a concern than any other race.  If the burglaries were made by a white gang, then any white people looking suspicious would be more of a concern.

I never mentioned Zimmerman's race as I do not believe he racially profiled.  He profiled based on previous crime suspects (a black person) which in itself is not racial profiling as the criminal was suspected of being a black male so thus any black male could be it.  Racial profiling would be suspecting any black male without any idea what the race of the burglar was.
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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2016, 09:47:57 PM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

First place TM was acting suspiciously. Second Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, and third so what? If the burglaries were made by a white gang then would you suspect a black guy? If the burglaries were made by teenagers are you going to suspect granny?

.... huh?
I'm very confused.
My point is that the burglaries were suspected of being made by a black person.  Thus, any suspicious looking black people would be more of a concern than any other race.  If the burglaries were made by a white gang, then any white people looking suspicious would be more of a concern.

I never mentioned Zimmerman's race as I do not believe he racially profiled.  He profiled based on previous crime suspects (a black person) which in itself is not racial profiling as the criminal was suspected of being a black male so thus any black male could be it.  Racial profiling would be suspecting any black male without any idea what the race of the burglar was.

Oh ok. Sorry. Whenever I see anything that looks like liberal logic I get mad.
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Re: F&@% YOU George Zimmerman
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2016, 05:10:25 AM »
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

He's right.
Should have raised him white.

I don't see how that is relevant, but I suppose I can't expect much from an admitted racist.
The burglaries were reported as being from a black person.  So if Martin was white, he wouldn't have been suspected.

First place TM was acting suspiciously. Second Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, and third so what? If the burglaries were made by a white gang then would you suspect a black guy? If the burglaries were made by teenagers are you going to suspect granny?

.... huh?
I'm very confused.
My point is that the burglaries were suspected of being made by a black person.  Thus, any suspicious looking black people would be more of a concern than any other race.  If the burglaries were made by a white gang, then any white people looking suspicious would be more of a concern.

I never mentioned Zimmerman's race as I do not believe he racially profiled.  He profiled based on previous crime suspects (a black person) which in itself is not racial profiling as the criminal was suspected of being a black male so thus any black male could be it.  Racial profiling would be suspecting any black male without any idea what the race of the burglar was.

Oh ok. Sorry. Whenever I see anything that looks like liberal logic I get mad.
It's fine.  Conservative logic does that to me.

See, we aren't so different.  We're just being manipulated by the media to hate each other instead of speaki g rationally until we find a solution.
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