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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2016, 10:13:09 PM »
There have been several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.
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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2016, 10:44:11 PM »
There have beeb several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.

Filming in a bathroom is illegal for everyone.  Not sure why you think this law makes it easier.  Hell, NC just passed a law that made it easier.  I'll demonstrate.


*walks into ladies room*
"Hi, sorry, born a woman.  Can I watch you pee?"


Also, question:
Have you ever BEEN inside a woman's bathroom?  Ever peeked in one when no one was there?
Well I have and let me tell you, there's nothing but stalls and toilets.  No urinals.  In fact, unless a woman undresses by the sink, they aren't going to show anything they won't show when they walk out the door so, pray tell, what were these horrible men filming?
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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2016, 10:33:40 AM »
There have beeb several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.

Filming in a bathroom is illegal for everyone.  Not sure why you think this law makes it easier.  Hell, NC just passed a law that made it easier.  I'll demonstrate.


*walks into ladies room*
"Hi, sorry, born a woman.  Can I watch you pee?"


Also, question:
Have you ever BEEN inside a woman's bathroom?  Ever peeked in one when no one was there?
Well I have and let me tell you, there's nothing but stalls and toilets.  No urinals.  In fact, unless a woman undresses by the sink, they aren't going to show anything they won't show when they walk out the door so, pray tell, what were these horrible men filming?

They are filming from under and over the stall walls.

Now tell me how this protects women in changing rooms and locker rooms.

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2016, 11:01:52 AM »
There have beeb several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.

Filming in a bathroom is illegal for everyone.  Not sure why you think this law makes it easier.  Hell, NC just passed a law that made it easier.  I'll demonstrate.


*walks into ladies room*
"Hi, sorry, born a woman.  Can I watch you pee?"


Also, question:
Have you ever BEEN inside a woman's bathroom?  Ever peeked in one when no one was there?
Well I have and let me tell you, there's nothing but stalls and toilets.  No urinals.  In fact, unless a woman undresses by the sink, they aren't going to show anything they won't show when they walk out the door so, pray tell, what were these horrible men filming?

They are filming from under and over the stall walls.

Now tell me how this protects women in changing rooms and locker rooms.
So the gender of the person is irrelevant as they're hidden anyway.  Gotcha.

As for locker rooms, well, what's stopping a man from walking in now?
What's stopping a woman from walking in and taking pictures/video?
Finally:
Same point as before, the North Carolina law requiring people to use their birth gender's "room" means that any man can walk into a woman's bathroom without even changing clothing. 

I think the problem here is that you are assuming that it's easy for a man to pretend to gender identify as a woman.  Can they dress up? Sure but they could do that before so it's not really anything different.
But I don't think transgender people make a habit of walking into a bathroom or locker room they can't pass in.  So a transman won't go into the men's locker room if they still have their breasts or they look/sound like a woman.  But they would likely go into the woman's locker room just to avoid the stares.

Plus, the point is to avoid it being illegal if said trans is caught in the "wrong" room.  Filming is still very much illegal regardless of gender.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2016, 02:57:18 PM »
There have beeb several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.

Filming in a bathroom is illegal for everyone.  Not sure why you think this law makes it easier.  Hell, NC just passed a law that made it easier.  I'll demonstrate.


*walks into ladies room*
"Hi, sorry, born a woman.  Can I watch you pee?"


Also, question:
Have you ever BEEN inside a woman's bathroom?  Ever peeked in one when no one was there?
Well I have and let me tell you, there's nothing but stalls and toilets.  No urinals.  In fact, unless a woman undresses by the sink, they aren't going to show anything they won't show when they walk out the door so, pray tell, what were these horrible men filming?

They are filming from under and over the stall walls.

Now tell me how this protects women in changing rooms and locker rooms.
So the gender of the person is irrelevant as they're hidden anyway.  Gotcha.

As for locker rooms, well, what's stopping a man from walking in now?
What's stopping a woman from walking in and taking pictures/video?
Finally:
Same point as before, the North Carolina law requiring people to use their birth gender's "room" means that any man can walk into a woman's bathroom without even changing clothing. 

I think the problem here is that you are assuming that it's easy for a man to pretend to gender identify as a woman.  Can they dress up? Sure but they could do that before so it's not really anything different.
But I don't think transgender people make a habit of walking into a bathroom or locker room they can't pass in.  So a transman won't go into the men's locker room if they still have their breasts or they look/sound like a woman.  But they would likely go into the woman's locker room just to avoid the stares.

Plus, the point is to avoid it being illegal if said trans is caught in the "wrong" room.  Filming is still very much illegal regardless of gender.

So letting the fox INTO the hen house is okay. Its only AFTER the fox starts killing the chickens that there is a problem. Got it.

Not a husband, father or grand father are you?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/26/pennsylvania-man-allegedly-spied-little-girl-public-bathroom-charged-child-porn

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2016, 03:09:09 PM »
What's the point of posting that story?  Are you saying that guy would have gotten away with filming a little girl if he had been transgender, or dressed as a woman?  He wouldn't have.

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2016, 03:12:09 PM »
There have beeb several arrests of men claiming to be transgender that were caught filming women.

Let me know how you feel when it happens to your wife, daughter or grand daughter.

I hope these cities are suited into oblivion the it happens in their city.

Filming in a bathroom is illegal for everyone.  Not sure why you think this law makes it easier.  Hell, NC just passed a law that made it easier.  I'll demonstrate.


*walks into ladies room*
"Hi, sorry, born a woman.  Can I watch you pee?"


Also, question:
Have you ever BEEN inside a woman's bathroom?  Ever peeked in one when no one was there?
Well I have and let me tell you, there's nothing but stalls and toilets.  No urinals.  In fact, unless a woman undresses by the sink, they aren't going to show anything they won't show when they walk out the door so, pray tell, what were these horrible men filming?

They are filming from under and over the stall walls.

Now tell me how this protects women in changing rooms and locker rooms.
So the gender of the person is irrelevant as they're hidden anyway.  Gotcha.

As for locker rooms, well, what's stopping a man from walking in now?
What's stopping a woman from walking in and taking pictures/video?
Finally:
Same point as before, the North Carolina law requiring people to use their birth gender's "room" means that any man can walk into a woman's bathroom without even changing clothing. 

I think the problem here is that you are assuming that it's easy for a man to pretend to gender identify as a woman.  Can they dress up? Sure but they could do that before so it's not really anything different.
But I don't think transgender people make a habit of walking into a bathroom or locker room they can't pass in.  So a transman won't go into the men's locker room if they still have their breasts or they look/sound like a woman.  But they would likely go into the woman's locker room just to avoid the stares.

Plus, the point is to avoid it being illegal if said trans is caught in the "wrong" room.  Filming is still very much illegal regardless of gender.

So letting the fox INTO the hen house is okay. Its only AFTER the fox starts killing the chickens that there is a problem. Got it.

Not a husband, father or grand father are you?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/26/pennsylvania-man-allegedly-spied-little-girl-public-bathroom-charged-child-porn

That thing between your ears? It has mores uses than just to hold your ears apart or to keep your eyes from rolling down to your toes, if you look up.
That IS how laws work, yes.  You aren't arrested for "maybe going to comitt a crime".

I am a father.

Also, how does that story help your case?  A man was in the woman's bathroom for an hour, all without gender laws or identifying as a woman.  All you've proven is that transgender laws won't change things.
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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2016, 03:12:53 PM »
What's the point of posting that story?  Are you saying that guy would have gotten away with filming a little girl if he had been transgender, or dressed as a woman?  He wouldn't have.

Seriously? That little girl would not have paid as much attention to what she would thing is as just another female. Do have have kids please. It would be cruel to them

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2016, 03:24:21 PM »
What's the point of posting that story?  Are you saying that guy would have gotten away with filming a little girl if he had been transgender, or dressed as a woman?  He wouldn't have.

Seriously? That little girl would not have paid as much attention to what she would thing is as just another female. Do have have kids please. It would be cruel to them
Its a good thing its so hard for someone to look like another gender....


Oh wait...
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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2016, 03:50:11 PM »
Won't someone please think of the children.

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Re: Transgender Rights
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2016, 03:57:47 PM »
Won't someone please think of the children.

Thank you.

And I'm done on this thread. Too many freaks here. Scary