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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 12, 2014, 02:02:56 PM »

Sorry mate, but this is still just a claim.  Can you do the transformation you are talking about?

What's not to understand?

The point is that you are responsible for making people understand your claims.

What 'transformation'?

You are talking about transforming a set of coordinates from a flat space to a curved space.

Please provide a link to a flat earth map.

Huh?  Aside from being a REer and understanding that they have never claimed to have an accurate map, why would I do that?

If there was a flat earth map then distances could be measured and compared with verified ones on a spherical earth.  Obviously they would be different.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 12, 2014, 01:17:14 PM »

Sorry mate, but this is still just a claim.  Can you do the transformation you are talking about?

What's not to understand?  What 'transformation'?

Please provide a link to a flat earth map.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 12, 2014, 01:05:52 PM »

Consider a square with sides of 10 units. A point in the centre of the square will be 7.07 units from each of the corners.

Place those 4 corners on a sphere, still 10 units apart.  The centre point will be raised and hence more than 7.07 units.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 12, 2014, 09:12:52 AM »

Basic maths tells us that it would not be possible to put 10 capital cities of the world on a flat scale map and maintain the actual distances between each one.

You're more than welcome to demonstrate that. So far, all you've contributed to this forum is a bunch of unsubstantiated claims and straw man attacks. Don't expect people to take you seriously.

It is not an attack, how can all the distances between 5 places remain the same on a flat surface and a spherical one?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 12, 2014, 08:56:16 AM »

Basic maths tells us that it would not be possible to put 10 capital cities of the world on a flat scale map and maintain the actual distances between each one.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 11, 2014, 11:41:20 PM »

Please explain why distances must be the same on different shaped surfaces.

Why would I try explaining something I didn't say or claim? That'd be a silly thing for me to do, and it's a very silly thing for you to request.

You said they would not be different, so must be the same.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?

« on: March 11, 2014, 11:05:08 PM »

The most logical conclusion is Thork's. It requires no conspiracy or motivation. The plane malfunctioned and crashed into the ocean. Depending on how it malfunctioned and how it crashed, there might be survivors, but I'd imagine they would have found them by now. As far as I know life rafts are equipped with GPS and what-not. At least the military ones are.

How does GPS work over oceans?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 10, 2014, 10:42:52 PM »

Flat earth distances must be different to round earth ones.

Nope.

Please explain why distances must be the same on different shaped surfaces.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 10, 2014, 08:35:19 PM »

Its simple trigonometry, Dave.

London is 0 degrees West/East. It is 51 degrees north.

Sydney is 151 degrees East and 33 degrees south.

Each degree is 60 nautical miles. Make a triangle.

angle 151 degrees. sides are (90-51) x 60) and ((90 x 60) +(33 x 60))

Bit of trig later


9,495 nautical miles. There is a fair bit of rounding on my part not using minutes etc but you see how its done. The round earth value is 9,174 nautical miles.

Hardly impossible to make a calculator, is it?

However, I don't want to generate all the answers. I'd rather the community got together and debated the calcs and the mathematics. This isn't Thork's flat earth society.

If a formula is arrived at, I'm sure me or Pizzaplanet can convert this to javascript or whatever their preference is.

Wouldn't the latitude and longitude lines be different on a flat earth due to the different positioning and elongation/shrinking of continents?

Provided the Earth is a circle then they would only vary based on the diameter of the Earth since the system is defined by having 360 degrees of latitude and longitude.

Flat earth distances must be different to round earth ones.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 09, 2014, 11:59:55 PM »

Sydney to Santiago is 13 hours with Quantas.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Tool Set

« on: March 08, 2014, 09:47:58 PM »

Don't we need certain things for this to be possible?  Like a map?

Read the OP. Then read the FAQ.

You basically said "write math to determine distances without accurate distances to base it on".

You just can't pick two points on a picture, draw a line, and call that accurate.

The FAQ states the distances. Please take some time to read it.

The FAQ states the distances of every point to every point?

A tool such as the one suggested would allow you to perform such calculations.

There seems to be limited enthusiasm for this idea. Oh well.

I can't think why.  So there would be two distances between two points, one verified...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Satellites

« on: March 08, 2014, 04:31:24 PM »

Always CNN...

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Flat Earth Theory / Experiments

« on: March 07, 2014, 05:53:56 PM »

No. 13 refers to the rivers at Liverpool and London being the same level - unlikely.

Where is No.12?

No. 11 - uses the word 'seemed'.  Bit unscientific.

Time to repeat them with modern equipment like lasers (before publishing the book).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Satellites

« on: March 07, 2014, 05:46:42 PM »

So, you are saying that news broadcasts do not lie about sending satellite reports?

One false report does not mean every one is.  This seems to be a FE tactic, it does not work.

Have you seen live news reports from the Ukraine, false?  I have seen live broadcasts using a sat truck, what do you think was happening?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Edges...

« on: March 06, 2014, 05:33:09 PM »

generally believed that light travels in a curved path that causes the phenomena of sunrise/sunset and moonrise/moonset

By who?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Satellites

« on: March 06, 2014, 05:22:49 PM »

Are you saying that it is not documented that video can be sent by anything but a Satellite?  Also, how long do you think it would take to setup a few relay stations?

Why do you keep saying people say only by a particular method?

A few relay stations - what would these consist of to get pictures from a remote part of Iraq to New York?

Have you seen tv news trucks in a narrow street with satellite dishes pointing to the sky?  Please see numerous links to companies that make the equipment plus satellite receivers used by ships in the middle of oceans.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Satellites

« on: March 06, 2014, 12:17:18 PM »

Yeah, because TV transitions must only come from outer space. 

Unless you can come up with a documented alternative.  Do not say relays.  You cannot set up an instant connection from a war zone or other location.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Satellites

« on: March 06, 2014, 08:46:43 AM »

Meanwhile, TV stations use satellites to get pictures back from Crimea.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Edges...

« on: March 05, 2014, 10:24:40 PM »

Why not look at flight times in the southern hemisphere.  There are flights to the south pole that may interest some here.

Does anyone dispute the distances on a spherical earth that are used by everyone?  All the alignments for satellite tv are based on, and work with, a spherical earth.

Seems strange there is still no flat earth map after all the years of discussion.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Annotated ENAG

« on: March 04, 2014, 06:44:37 PM »

Which experiments have been repeated recently?