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Re: Trump
« Reply #8200 on: January 08, 2021, 08:06:12 PM »
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Re: Trump
« Reply #8201 on: January 08, 2021, 08:09:13 PM »
You are right. I mean there were no fires like you see with BLM, but a window got broken and so did a door handle. White people are the worst. :(

folks in the far right
Strange how not liking Democrat socialism makes one 'far-right', but I suppose it is from all the way over there on the left.

The problem is that you have no idea what "Socialism" even means in regard to American politics. Biden and CO are no more Socialist than the Rockefeller Republicans of the last century. It's just that the right has moved so far right, anything that looks or smells like centrism is deemed one notch away from a Maoist regime.

Biden isn't the problem. Biden is just a corpse that AOC, Bernie and Warren have thawed to give the party a centrist face. But the party is absolutely crawling with communists. There was a lot of screaming and drama in the last 4 years but actually not very much happened. The screaming was being done by the agitators who want to turn America upside down. These next 4 years will see dramatic and awful changes take place in America as it lurches violently to the left. Enjoy queuing for your bread, morans.

America HAS turned upside down.  Did you not see the whole riot and insurrection?   Have you not seen Trump in the last 4 years?

Also, do you live in the 50s?  Seeing communists everywhere?  Do you have a picture of Senator McCarthy that you hug each night?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #8202 on: January 08, 2021, 08:12:39 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that Thork doesn't really understand what communism is. He's just like the rest of the dittoheads on the right, emptily parroting talking points he doesn't really comprehend but that he thinks sound really scary. Ooh, socialists!
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #8203 on: January 08, 2021, 08:14:17 PM »
You are right. I mean there were no fires like you see with BLM, but a window got broken and so did a door handle. White people are the worst. :(

folks in the far right
Strange how not liking Democrat socialism makes one 'far-right', but I suppose it is from all the way over there on the left.

The problem is that you have no idea what "Socialism" even means in regard to American politics. Biden and CO are no more Socialist than the Rockefeller Republicans of the last century. It's just that the right has moved so far right, anything that looks or smells like centrism is deemed one notch away from a Maoist regime.

Biden isn't the problem. Biden is just a corpse that AOC, Bernie and Warren have thawed to give the party a centrist face. But the party is absolutely crawling with communists. There was a lot of screaming and drama in the last 4 years but actually not very much happened. The screaming was being done by the agitators who want to turn America upside down. These next 4 years will see dramatic and awful changes take place in America as it lurches violently to the left. Enjoy queuing for your bread, morans.

Ah yes, those awful changes like moving towards affordable healthcare, insurance, higher education, equal voting rights, eliminating racial injustice and unfair/unequal imprisonment...

Lousy "communists".

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« Reply #8204 on: January 08, 2021, 08:21:24 PM »

Ah yes, those awful changes like moving towards affordable healthcare, insurance, higher education, equal voting rights, eliminating racial injustice and unfair/unequal imprisonment...

Lousy "communists".

Ok, lets pick these off one by one.

Who doesn't have equal voting rights in America and what will Biden do to change this?
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« Reply #8205 on: January 08, 2021, 08:24:27 PM »
Trump confirms he won't attend the inauguration because he's a toddler or something

Or as Newsthump reports it...

https://newsthump.com/2021/01/08/trump-confirms-he-wont-attend-biden-inauguration-as-he-will-already-be-in-jail/
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #8206 on: January 08, 2021, 08:32:58 PM »
Trump confirms he won't attend the inauguration because he's a toddler or something

Or as Newsthump reports it...

https://newsthump.com/2021/01/08/trump-confirms-he-wont-attend-biden-inauguration-as-he-will-already-be-in-jail/

Thanks for confirming that you get your information from radical leftists.

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« Reply #8207 on: January 08, 2021, 08:35:52 PM »
Trump confirms he won't attend the inauguration because he's a toddler or something

Or as Newsthump reports it...

https://newsthump.com/2021/01/08/trump-confirms-he-wont-attend-biden-inauguration-as-he-will-already-be-in-jail/

Thanks for confirming that you get your information from radical leftists.
It's a satirical site.

Thanks for confirming that you can't distinguish reality from fantasy  :D
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #8208 on: January 08, 2021, 08:36:28 PM »
Trump confirms he won't attend the inauguration because he's a toddler or something

Or as Newsthump reports it...

https://newsthump.com/2021/01/08/trump-confirms-he-wont-attend-biden-inauguration-as-he-will-already-be-in-jail/

Thanks for confirming that you get your information from radical leftists.
It's a satirical site.

That seems like a worse place to get your information from.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #8209 on: January 08, 2021, 08:38:15 PM »


Ok, lets pick these off one by one.

Who doesn't have equal voting rights in America and what will Biden do to change this?

1. Native Americans, Blacks, through discriminatory requirements to prove voting eligibility.
2. Go back to pre-2013 policies where a broader range of official identification was permissible to grant voting rights in elections.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #8210 on: January 08, 2021, 08:39:08 PM »
Trump confirms he won't attend the inauguration because he's a toddler or something

Or as Newsthump reports it...

https://newsthump.com/2021/01/08/trump-confirms-he-wont-attend-biden-inauguration-as-he-will-already-be-in-jail/

Thanks for confirming that you get your information from radical leftists.
It's a satirical site.

That seems like a worse place to get your information from.

Anyone who makes jokes about Donnie is a radical leftist!

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« Reply #8211 on: January 08, 2021, 08:41:06 PM »
That seems like a worse place to get your information from.
Trump has said on Twitter he's not going to attend. That is where I got the "information" from.
The other thing was a joke. The fact you were unable to discern that is telling about your inability to discern fact from fiction
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Re: Trump
« Reply #8213 on: January 08, 2021, 09:00:23 PM »


Ok, lets pick these off one by one.

Who doesn't have equal voting rights in America and what will Biden do to change this?

1. Native Americans, Blacks, through discriminatory requirements to prove voting eligibility.
2. Go back to pre-2013 policies where a broader range of official identification was permissible to grant voting rights in elections.

1) How unreasonable that people have to prove they are eligible to vote, in order to vote. You are right. They should just let anyone vote. I'll send mine by post. We should ask the Chinese to vote too.

2) All states accept easy ID

driver’s licenses
state-issued ID cards
military ID cards
passports

There is literally no barrier other than their laziness. Why do white liberals waste so much time making excuses for why black people perform poorly at things?


.... Soooooooooooooooooooo .... what is Biden promising? A sensible solution of alternative ID accepted, or a free for all where fraud can run rampant?
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« Reply #8214 on: January 08, 2021, 09:07:58 PM »
.... Soooooooooooooooooooo .... what is Biden promising? A sensible solution of alternative ID accepted, or a free for all where fraud can run rampant?
Is there any evidence that not having to produce ID leads to rampant fraud?
I mean, I can see a case for having to produce an ID but you don't have to over here and is there rampant fraud?
(Our FPTP system is bloody awful, but that's not why)
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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« Reply #8215 on: January 08, 2021, 09:14:18 PM »
.... Soooooooooooooooooooo .... what is Biden promising? A sensible solution of alternative ID accepted, or a free for all where fraud can run rampant?
Is there any evidence that not having to produce ID leads to rampant fraud?
I mean, I can see a case for having to produce an ID but you don't have to over here and is there rampant fraud?
(Our FPTP system is bloody awful, but that's not why)

Why is it so hard to produce a photo ID? That's the rule. It means the person who votes is the person holding the ID. Its all very sensible. No one is prevented from voting other than children and prisoners. Certainly not black people.

This 'blacks are discriminated against' nonsense is a lazy leftist trope. They conjure racism from everywhere, any time they see a variation in racial numbers ... RACISM!  >o< It is extremely manipulative at the expense of the Black community ... but that's Democrats for you. I mean, Democrats historically wanted to keep them as slaves, so what do you expect?
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« Reply #8216 on: January 08, 2021, 09:17:02 PM »
Why is it so hard to produce a photo ID? That's the rule. It means the person who votes is the person holding the ID. Its all very sensible. No one is prevented from voting other than children and prisoners. Certainly not black people.
It's a reasonable argument, but you dodged the question.
Is there any evidence that not having to do that - as you don't have to here - leads to "rampant fraud"?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #8217 on: January 08, 2021, 09:17:40 PM »
.... Soooooooooooooooooooo .... what is Biden promising? A sensible solution of alternative ID accepted, or a free for all where fraud can run rampant?
Is there any evidence that not having to produce ID leads to rampant fraud?
I mean, I can see a case for having to produce an ID but you don't have to over here and is there rampant fraud?
(Our FPTP system is bloody awful, but that's not why)

Why is it so hard to produce a photo ID? That's the rule. It means the person who votes is the person holding the ID. Its all very sensible. No one is prevented from voting other than children and prisoners. Certainly not black people.

This 'blacks are discriminated against' nonsense is a lazy leftist trope. They conjure racism from everywhere, any time they see a variation in racial numbers ... RACISM!  >o< It is extremely manipulative at the expense of the Black community ... but that's Democrats for you. I mean, Democrats historically wanted to keep them as slaves, so what do you expect?

I just looked it up, seems, for the most part you guys don't have to present photo IDs. Do you have rampant election fraud because of it?

Here it's referred to as voter suppression, not voter prevention. The latter being too obvious.

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« Reply #8218 on: January 08, 2021, 09:22:49 PM »
They are able to produce state-issued ID.  I also agree you should have to provide regulated piece of ID to be able to vote. Some states, like North Dakota, added additional requirements like strict requirements on ID that contains specific address information.  Native Americans who live on any reserve in the State couldn't meet those requirements because their addresses didn't conform to the specifics that were drawn up with the [argued] intent of disenfranchising them.

despite marijuana being legal in dozens of states, people (disproportionately Black people) with a previous conviction can't get the right to vote because no one has bothered to expunge criminal record for possession.

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« Reply #8219 on: January 08, 2021, 09:23:10 PM »
I just looked it up, seems, for the most part you guys don't have to present photo IDs. Do you have rampant election fraud because of it?
Right. We don't have to and that was my question to Thork too.
Doesn't seem there's much evidence of rampant fraud here:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data/2019-electoral-fraud-data

There is a case for having to present ID but what problem are you trying to solve? There doesn't seem to be one.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"