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And I already gave you a model where someone has used this with bending light.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=flat+earth+dome+model

Click on stars and then click the number 1 to get to the end. You'll see the bending.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=-49-1Use--the--green--Sliders--to--change--the--Star--Position-6~70-1~95-11.2-1~60-136-2172.9-50-30-11-10-10-31-12-1

I'm not really seeing where Bislins' simulation computes the apparent position of Mars in the sky from any point on a flat earth. Which is what I think the OP is looking for.

[Dr David Thork]

It doesn't do planets.

But he can see how it works and I provided the numbers he needs with the geocentric ephemeris.

That's it. He's good to go. Short of asking me to code the bloody thing, there is nothing more to give him.
Make a database using the tables.
Create a model like the one shown.

Profit.

[blinkwithme]

And I already gave you a model where someone has used this with bending light.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=flat+earth+dome+model

Click on stars and then click the number 1 to get to the end. You'll see the bending.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=-49-1Use--the--green--Sliders--to--change--the--Star--Position-6~70-1~95-11.2-1~60-136-2172.9-50-30-11-10-10-31-12-1

That is quite cool and I played around with it. Problem here is that the landmasses are not sized correctly which means this cannot be the true shape of the earth. Locations on earth using that map won't be correct thus any calculations for planetary motion would be incorrect as well.

The curved lightrays do make sense on a FE model and can probably be the only explanation. For distances on the earth to be correct it seems space itself has do warp so the continents have the right dimensions. Bending light and warped space is nothing exotic for modern physics.
If you play around with the geometry a bit and unbend the light, project this map of earth onto a sphere (which unwarps the space), make the sun huge, massive and insanely far away, let there be a force where objects get drawn to eachother, introduce some motion and suddenly everything falls into place. But that would kinda defeat the purpose of a FE model after all.

Anyway that simulation seems to be definitely a step in the right direction for a working FE model. I im curious to try to get the motion of Mars into that simulation.

[Dr David Thork]

Good luck.

When you are done, please post a thread back here so we can see what you did and discuss your model. 

[edby]

How is FE pre-Ptolemaic?

In the sense that it advocates a position that pre-dates Ptolemy. Of course its modern proponents post-date Ptolemy, not denying that.

And this suggests that modern methods do not use tables.

[blinkwithme]

Good luck.

When you are done, please post a thread back here so we can see what you did and discuss your model. 

It doesn't work. There are already too many problems with the existing model. Mars would have to have a crazy movement and light must bend independently from the sun and moon for it to work. Venus transits cannot be consistently explained that way no matter how insanely curved the path of light is.

Putting earth in the center of the solar system and making it a sphere might work for a while but still cannot explain some phenomena.
Making it flat with a close sun and moon as well as other planets would just be impossible.
It's a fun exercise but it approaches it's limits too fast.

It kinda reminds me of the idea that earth is a hollow sphere and we live on the inside so that the universe is essentially mirrored at the surface of the planet. It needs some mathematical distortions, but it kinda works. But thats easy compared to creating a model of a stationairy flat earth. There will always be something that can only work in a heliocentric system.

[Dr David Thork]

If someone can make a flat earth tellurium using actual cogs and gears ... the maths works.

https://www.favosity.com/blog/flat-earth-time-piece-for-elites-in-the-know

Just because YOU can't make it work for a computer model is a reflection on your ability ... not that it is impossible.

[blinkwithme]

If someone can make a flat earth tellurium using actual cogs and gears ... the maths works.

https://www.favosity.com/blog/flat-earth-time-piece-for-elites-in-the-know

Just because YOU can't make it work for a computer model is a reflection on your ability ... not that it is impossible.

But thats just a toy that doesn't even show the real dimensions of earth and has even parts missing. Neither does it address planets.
Maybe with enough time and expertise I could come up with a somewhat working computer model. The model presented before is obviously wrong.
As I understand it it needs time as most FE systems are quite young and cannot explain everything yet. The problem is if a model gets one single thing wrong then the whole model must be incorrect as it is. It will be a huge challenge to get every phenomena right. Without bending of space and/or light it won't work. Then the forces which cause the warping and movements have to be explained and reproduced to show that they actually work.

It sure is a really cool hobby but in the end nobody will use a FE system because we already have a working model of the solar system.
But I like the math games and even the craziest idea has a slight chance to reveal something new about the behavior of the universe.
I really appreciate the effort some people put into this to play around with mathematics and maybe discover new techniques or tricks.