Quote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 08:27:48 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 08:21:56 PMQuote from: Ghost of V on April 09, 2014, 07:44:23 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:43:11 PMQuote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 07:22:58 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.That's not dismissing what I said, the context of those 2 aspects is important. I can't pick it apart more than that, but let me just link you to the article.http://melissaasmith.hubpages.com/hub/blackfish-filmSo you're basing your opinion on a backwoods internet article? Shouldn't you just watch the documentary yourself?There are a lot of articles that say exactly the same things. Why would I want to watch people being attacked by orcas?I'm not saying it's all fabricated lies, I rather just research it myself than watch a movie length PETA ad.Well you seem to have made up your mind that that is what it is, but if I may, its not. Its greyer than people make it out to be. I just said I wasn't saying that. My only point is that it's not the full truth; that my only qualm with it is that it makes pretty bold statements and portrays everything in a way that gets people emotionally involved in something that's not necessarily true. It's why I dislike documentaries that try and rally people behind a cause.
Quote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 08:21:56 PMQuote from: Ghost of V on April 09, 2014, 07:44:23 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:43:11 PMQuote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 07:22:58 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.That's not dismissing what I said, the context of those 2 aspects is important. I can't pick it apart more than that, but let me just link you to the article.http://melissaasmith.hubpages.com/hub/blackfish-filmSo you're basing your opinion on a backwoods internet article? Shouldn't you just watch the documentary yourself?There are a lot of articles that say exactly the same things. Why would I want to watch people being attacked by orcas?I'm not saying it's all fabricated lies, I rather just research it myself than watch a movie length PETA ad.Well you seem to have made up your mind that that is what it is, but if I may, its not. Its greyer than people make it out to be.
Quote from: Ghost of V on April 09, 2014, 07:44:23 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:43:11 PMQuote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 07:22:58 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.That's not dismissing what I said, the context of those 2 aspects is important. I can't pick it apart more than that, but let me just link you to the article.http://melissaasmith.hubpages.com/hub/blackfish-filmSo you're basing your opinion on a backwoods internet article? Shouldn't you just watch the documentary yourself?There are a lot of articles that say exactly the same things. Why would I want to watch people being attacked by orcas?I'm not saying it's all fabricated lies, I rather just research it myself than watch a movie length PETA ad.
Quote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:43:11 PMQuote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 07:22:58 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.That's not dismissing what I said, the context of those 2 aspects is important. I can't pick it apart more than that, but let me just link you to the article.http://melissaasmith.hubpages.com/hub/blackfish-filmSo you're basing your opinion on a backwoods internet article? Shouldn't you just watch the documentary yourself?
Quote from: Rama Set on April 09, 2014, 07:22:58 PMQuote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.That's not dismissing what I said, the context of those 2 aspects is important. I can't pick it apart more than that, but let me just link you to the article.http://melissaasmith.hubpages.com/hub/blackfish-film
Quote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them. Thats not really true. The doc points out that attacks in the wild on humans by orcas is almost entirely unheard of and that orcas are extremely social animals that likely have as strong if not stronger emotional lives than humans do. They also show orcas mercilessly hunting seals, so any construing of the films portrayal of orcas as merely fun-loving animals is not really accurate.
But the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them.
On further shittiness by Sea World:http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2014/01/sea-world-accused-of-fishy-pr-practices-rigging-blackfish-poll.html
Quote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 08:21:56 PMI'm not saying it's all fabricated lies, I rather just research it myself than watch a movie length PETA ad.You mean, you'd rather have someone else research it than research it yourself.Researching the documentary yourself would require you actually watching it.
I'm not saying it's all fabricated lies, I rather just research it myself than watch a movie length PETA ad.
Quote from: rooster on April 09, 2014, 07:05:40 PMBut the article made a great point of how the movie portrays the orcas as fun-loving peaceful animals when in the wild, (which is a nice fantasy). But they also mentioned how the movie was hypocritical in glorifying orcas in the wild when it suits them but also showing them as vicious predators when it suited them.But I think they explain the reasoning for this. Orcas are pretty intelligent, social animals that roam across thousands of miles. Stick them in a tiny tank and make them splash fat 5-year-olds every day and they might get pissed off. It's not hypocritical to say that different causes give different effects.
I didn't explain it very well since I was paraphrasing from that article I read a couple weeks ago. You should read it if you've seen the movie, it was pretty interesting. Most articles on the topic don't really rail against the main points of the movie, just how they're presented and the fallacies it uses.
Okay, Thork. This isn't the "Post YouTube videos" thread.
It's not necessarily cruel to keep an animal in captivity or teach it to do tricks.Dogs are a good example. If I released a pet dog into the wild it would be cruel.Same goes with any animal that has only known captivity all it's life.
Can we all please just shut the fuck up about the animals already?Anyway, I have watched The Incredible Hulk. It was okay, I guess. It was certainly an improvement over that horrific one Ang Lee gave us back in 2003, the one that had this priceless scene in it: