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The relative position of the two bodies is always the same in the shot. Does that clarification help?When I'm convinced neither shot was taken from above the moon, why is the onus on me to show they are both taken from the same place on the moon?
Because you explicitly said the Moon was "in the same place" in each...
Interesting again that you confuse basic physics terms...why would my follow up question relate to General Relativity when i specifically said FET didnt beleive that and my question was on General Relativity. Do you know the difference between these?Again? Have I conversed with you before? And it is not me confusing anything. You have 22 posts. How do I know what you are thinking? You said you had follow up questions. Most people go from special relativity (the building block for Universal Acceleration) straight to gravity (the counter to UA), the idea being to try to show orbital mechanics to be correct and there for earth must have formed into a ball under its own weight and be round.
My question for the FE experts relates to the Hafele-Keating experiment conducted back in early 70s/late 60s if i recall correctly. They did an experiment to verify Einsteins prediction of time dilation using atomic clocks. One plane flew west around the world, the other flew east around the world. Both went around twice if i recall. The experiment was to compare the time difference of the clocks on those planes versus the control clocks left on the ground. both flew at the same height roughly so time change relative to gravitational potential is negligible. The plane travelling east had a greater overall velocity (travelling with rotation of the earth) compared to one going west.Why does the earth need to spin? Only a distance needs to be travelled. If I get in a rocket and travel faster than light away from a clock, the theory is the clock goes backwards. If I am under the speed of light but still fast, the clock slows. If I accelerate towards the clock it speeds up. Where is the necessity for spin? They happened to make a cock and bull story about going around the globe, but a circle around the equator of a flat earth would achieve the same thing. It is about motion through time and space, not spinning balls.
The results of this test matched up nearly perfect as predicted by Einstein's calculations, within 2% of the expected result if i recall correctly.
now the ONLY way for that to happen is the world is rotating. if we were on a flat earth, the two should be the same relative time, they did not.
this experiment has been conducted again since then with even more precise clocks, once in the mid 1990s using multiple clocks and the difference from predicted by formulas was even closer.
what would be the FET explanation for this?
I kind of wish they'd gone with a steampunk version instead. Set in some kind of dystopian Victorian era. The costumes would be epic, there would be all kinds of puzzles to solve regarding vast machines, crafting, blueprints, the fast travel could be ticket offices at train stations, there'd be urchins on the streets, people lighting gas lamps as it got dark, huge ornate clocks on the buildings, maybe an HG Wells inspired submarine and diving bells for the water quests ... futuristic RPGs / first person shooters have been done to death. I feel cyberpunk2077 will be more a cross between final fantasy and bioshock. I'd rather have a character with a nice set of crafted knuckle dusters and a one shot gun powder pistol as a last resort. Rapid fire lasers isn't really my bag. I'm thinking streets of London after dark, Jack the ripper, orphanages, debtors prisons, stunning wrought iron bridges, vast brick archways, a heavy smog of industrialisation setting the theme in major cities, cosplay freaks getting heavily into the game, goggles with magnification, night vision, heat vision etc to collect, robot extensions to your outfits to increase strength, automatons to defeat, rival inventors, muggers, henchmen, your own lab and factory. Meh, cyberpunk it is I guess.Prude. Ok, fine. I hope they have as good a script. The Witcher was based on a series of books though (like a Polish Lord of the rings). Not sure where they'll get their inspiration for cyberpunk 2077, but I have confidence in them. They did such a good job on the Witcher they must have a lot of very talented writers on the payroll.Well, the game is based on Cyberpunk 2020, so they have an established setting and lore to go on, but with the 50+ year gap they also have enough historical space to make it their own. They will probably also look to classic cyberpunk fiction writers like William Gibson and Philip K. Dick for inspiration.
At the North or South Pole, you'd have to be at velocity zero, with respect to earth's spin. So the speed varies from a max of 1040mph to a min of 0 in order for the air to keep up with the surface of the earth as it spins.Why would the air have to "decelerate to a full stop" when moving north or south?It would have to change velocity to match the spin speed at whatever circumference. That is a change of momentum. You need to add energy into a system to achieve that ... Newton's 1st law of motion.
...but why would it need to stop? And where would it stop?
Using the stated distances of GOES-17 from Earth, and Moon from Earth, along with the radii of Earth and Moon, you can work out, from first principles, the angular size of each.I've been a flat earther on forums like this for a decade. I don't need to work out the numbers. I know them by heart. You aren't the first person in 10 years to ever bring this up.
This will yield the comparative sizes of Earth and Moon as seen by GOES-17, and is intended as a follow-up to Bobby Shafto's question.
Do you want to work them out for yourself, or shall I outline the calcs for you?
No, I also struggle to breath through my nose and I have to read by running my finger under the words and mouthing them. Is there a point to your low-content slurs?something like this?
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Can you do geometry with right-angled triangles? Solving for one angle, given two side lengths, one of which is the hypotenuse?
You haven't shown it to be in the same place, merely (roughly) the same distance/angle above the horizon...When I'm convinced neither shot was taken from above the moon, why is the onus on me to show they are both taken from the same place on the moon? I'd guess both pictures where taken in a place like this ...
Why would the air have to "decelerate to a full stop" when moving north or south?It would have to change velocity to match the spin speed at whatever circumference. That is a change of momentum. You need to add energy into a system to achieve that ... Newton's 1st law of motion.
I suspect once the effects of closing effective advertising channels hits the economy as companies take a profit bath, the rules will be somewhat loosened. I don't think they comprehend the impact on lead gen and customer retention that GDPR has.Still, the ray of sunshine is Brexit ... maybe we can turn it around but Teresa May probably needs removing first.Unlikely. The GDPR was championed and vehemently supported by the UK's very own ICO. If anything, the common criticism in the UK is that the GDPR is not going far enough. Naturally, we can't know whether or not Tessie will make a sudden u-turn, but the current consensus is that it's very unlikely.
thinking more of the app store in their case, updating iOS to obsolete paid apps, built in obsolesce of the device itself to leave you with nothing in a few short years, that sort of thing.GDPR is aimed squarely at tech giants. Facebook, Apple, Google. They are looting European countries. They give you nothing (nothing physical) and you give them money ... and then they find ways to pay zero tax on those sales. Europe doesn't have a single large tech company.
Ummm...
(in the interest of not spamming, Apple has one of the biggest, most efficient supply chains in the world..)
That's interesting. I wonder what an image of the moon in the background of an earth shot would look like?
Let's each try to composite what we'd expect it to look like, either from a geostationary satellite or from that DISCOVR satellite parked at the L1 Lagrangian point (which captured that near moon transit pic.)
Hardly. The above photo only has a bit of the moon.I'd wager you can only see a bit of the moon and a bit of the earth in the voyager image.
Would you take a photo of your garden and say it was "a photo of the Earth"?I certainly wouldn't claim it was taken from a spacecraft.
The Apollo one was taken by an astronaut who was IN a spacecraft.I think those are semantics we can live without.
Voyager took this photo of the earth and moon
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/voyager-1-takes-the-first-image-of-the-earth-moon-system-in-a-single-frame/
Voyager 1 snapped this picture from a distance of 7.25 million miles. It was the first to include both the Earth and the Moon in a single frame taken by a spacecraft.
Early 2019. The Polish government gave CD Projekt Red a grant of $5million to ensure they make the release on time, so they are under the gun, else apparently they have to give it back. Shame Star Shitizen isn't under a similar edict.She's his adopted daughter, you fucking weirdo! And the game makes it very, very clear what kind of relationship they have! This is really fucking creepy, even for you.
You know what, let's just talk about their upcoming game. It's gonna be great.
Does cyberpunk 2077 have release date?
Yes, I get that but it could be in the background. It never is though. Never ever ever in any of NASAs images unless it is front and centre to show the thing they want to show. Accidental cosmology never occurs. Its almost as though someone composes every shot and makes sure they are perfect.Wow. They made a right mess of that. The Atlantic between South America and Africa appears to be smaller than the Gulf of Mexico. They've also managed to find a way to make sure both the arctic and Antarctica aren't visible. at the same time.
That's what happens when you photograph it from 22k miles out. I'll take a photo of my desktop globe from an equivalent scale distance for you....
They managed to pick a day when there wasn't a single storm on the entire one half side of the planet
Why would you expect to see a storm in a still photo?
It was nice of the moon to move out of the way for this latest shot ...
The satellite is 22k miles out, the Moon at 240k ... so the Moon is farther away.
The infrared sensors aren't cooling properly, meaning they won't work when the satellite is on the night side of the Earth and directly exposed to the sun's rays.This is gibberish but I'll put that down to the journalist.
She's his adopted daughter, you fucking weirdo! And the game makes it very, very clear what kind of relationship they have! This is really fucking creepy, even for you.
Thork literally believes that the only requirement for two people to bang is that they are not actually related to each other.Hey, its taboo, but it isn't forbidden.
You know what, let's just talk about their upcoming game. It's gonna be great.Prude. Ok, fine. I hope they have as good a script. The Witcher was based on a series of books though (like a Polish Lord of the rings). Not sure where they'll get their inspiration for cyberpunk 2077, but I have confidence in them. They did such a good job on the Witcher they must have a lot of very talented writers on the payroll.
Split this rant off to somewhere more appropriate than S&C. Now to business...Google is a huge tech company using Android and paying no one to use it. It makes a fortune from its app store. Linus Torvald is a peasant when compared with the likes of Sergey Brin or Bill Gates. Linux is not owned by a successful global tech giant that makes squillions of money.Linux doesn't make money like Android
I can't stop laughing at this. You know that Android is Linux, right?
