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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2021, 05:29:02 PM »
The Irish Echo makes a solid case for scheduling a referendum right away. To quote their concluding statement:

The denial of a democratic vote of the people is the real threat to the GFA, not the posturing of illegal, criminal loyalist gangs which prey on their own communities. A date for a referendum needs to be set now, and a timetable established for adequate preparation and public discussion to take place beforehand.
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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2021, 06:02:36 PM »
What is your obsession with breaking up the United Kingdom? You want Northern Ireland to leave. You want Scotland to leave. I presume you'd like Wales to leave. Why are you so threatened by us?
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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2021, 06:08:05 PM »
What is your obsession with breaking up the United Kingdom? You want Northern Ireland to leave.
I want Northern Ireland to leave because, as someone with Irish heritage myself, I care about the welfare and economic development of Ireland. The British occupation in the north is not presently working in that interest.

You want Scotland to leave.
I have said no such thing.

I presume you'd like Wales to leave.
I cannot be held accountable to your presumptions.

Why are you so threatened by us?
I could equally well ask you the same thing. Always remember, you chose to leave the EU, we didn't push you out.
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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2021, 06:21:05 PM »
I want Northern Ireland to leave because, as someone with Irish heritage myself, I care about the welfare and economic development of Ireland.
The Northern Irish aren't Irish. They are British. They were asked if they wanted to be Irish and they voted to remain British anyway.

Always remember, you chose to leave the EU, we didn't push you out.
And again, we voted to leave the EU.

Why do you hate democracy so much?
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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2021, 06:37:15 PM »
The Northern Irish aren't Irish. They are British. They were asked if they wanted to be Irish and they voted to remain British anyway.
You know perfectly well that that is an oversimplification based on a half-century-old referendum that most of the Irish in Northern Ireland boycotted because it pre-dated the Good Friday Agreement. Why do you object to asking them again in light of the events of the past five decades?

Always remember, you chose to leave the EU, we didn't push you out.
And again, we voted to leave the EU.
Yes, that's what I said. So why are you so threatened by us?

Why do you hate democracy so much?
Are you really asking me that in a thread I created to advocate for a referendum?
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Re: Irish reunification
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2021, 08:53:54 AM »
Let's compare and contrast how the UK is treating Northern Ireland with how the EU treats the Republic.

Northern Irish farmers can no longer take their cattle to Britain for sale, because they can't bring them back if they don't find buyers.

The union’s deputy president David Brown gave evidence to the Stormont finance committee yesterday on the headaches caused by new rules which hamper the movement of goods (in this case animals) from Great Britain to Northern Ireland.

He said for example that when it comes to pedigree cattle, many Ulster breeders traditionally travel to big Welsh, Scottish or English shows to exhibit livestock.

But the new rules mean “any animals coming from Great Britain to Northern Ireland would have to have a six month residence period”.

Mr Brown (a cattle farmer from Fermanagh) explained exactly what this means on the ground.

At Stirling in Scotland in 2018, there were 109 bulls at the spring sale from 43 exhibitors.

In 2019, the number was 120, from 37 exhibitors.

In 2020 the sale was cancelled due to Covid.

But in 2021 the figure was four bulls, from three exhibitors.

Meanwhile, in Strasbourg...

The European Parliament approved over €1 billion in subsidies for Ireland to help manage the economic impact of Brexit on Wednesday.

Ireland is by far the biggest beneficiary of the so-called Brexit Adjustment Reserve, a pot of €5.34 billion set aside by the EU for the countries hardest hit by the disruption caused by the departure of the United Kingdom.

Fine Gael MEP for Midlands North West Colm Markey described the funds as “hugely welcome” and demonstrating “a high degree of EU solidarity with Ireland”.

The fund was approved with an overwhelming vote of 652 votes in favour versus 32 against.

When will the DUP realise they're better off with Brussels than with Westminster?
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